Fri. 1:41 PM

Well, Gen. Petraeus has just testified before congress; he says attack on our embassy in Libya was terrorist attack; so what does that make Eric Holder ? A liar, and guilty of a cover-up; (which is a serious crime for which he needs to be prosecuted.)

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Generals-Scandal/2012/11/16/id/464413

I can't put the story up, so here's the link.

So........anyone who still believes Obama didn't "know" what Holder "knew"...........I have a bridge in Brooklyn you may be interested in buying......

Charley

The CIA also new as did Bush II that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq as well, now about that bridge, I don't need it but I've got a nice statue of a Lady holding a torch for sale.

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter): ...so what does that make Eric Holder ? A liar, and guilty of a cover-up; (which is a serious crime for which he needs to be prosecuted.)

On what grounds?

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter): Well, Gen. Petraeus has just testified before congress; he says attack on our embassy in Libya was terrorist attack; so what does that make Eric Holder ?

What is the link between Holder and Libya? Hate Holder as much as you like, but there needs to be some evidence linking Holder to Libya before there is any legal action to be taken. Nothing there IMO besides a hate for Holder.

Quoting mbmbos (Reply 2): On what grounds?

There are no grounds. Holder doesn't have a thing to do with foreign policy, what goes on at our embassies or consulates, or how the national security apparatus operates.

-Mir

Link doesn't work. And talk about jumping to conclusions. Thanks to the insistence that the President is 100% wrong no matter what, I have to take any story, throw it in the BS-filter 20 times, and then see the truth. Every step of the way, EVERY step, people claim that the President is guilty of some huge cover up for some reason I still haven't been explained...

the only reason I've heard is because it (somehow) goes against the President's campaign line that "AQ is getting weaker" but ironically, the only ones that think AQ is actually getting stronger and some Libyans killing 4 Americans overseas (RIP) makes us more vulnerable are the same ones coming up with the "Libya goes against what the President has been saying" line.

In other words, the reason to lie has been made up by the same people that made up the lie in the first place


Give me REAL, SOLID proof the President is involved in corruption and I will lead your charge for prosecution. But all that is happening is the GOP is continually crying wolf and pissing off the rest of the country, and when they get ignored they claim the media is covering something up. UGH. /rant

Quoting Mir (Reply 4): There are no grounds.

Precisely.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 5): But all that is happening is the GOP is continually crying wolf

And skipping classified intelligence briefings on the Benghazi incident in order to hold a press conference demanding more information on the Benghazi incident.   

Looking at you, Senator McCain.   

-Mir

OK guys, sorry for ranting. Let me calm down, I'll just ask a simple question:

Is this the story that finally condemns the President, or will it be the next "big" story in 3 days?  

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter): So........anyone who still believes Obama didn't "know" what Holder "knew".

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter): ? A liar, and guilty of

Know , knew and blah, are just bland adjectives of general rage and attacks by a political machine that is currently on the outside looking in.

What we are talking about here, is the fact of a squabble over whether an attack that resulted in the death of 4 people began as a Terrorist attack, or grew out of a film related protest where a more organized attack took place that could be classified as terror.

It's no wonder the GOP is losing demographics. The only people left pretty soon are going to be the people that wear tin foil hats.

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter): Gen. Petraeus has just testified before congress; he says...

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter): so what does that make Eric Holder ? A liar, and guilty of a cover-up;

Sounds more like "he said, she said" to me - and that alone doesn't make Holder anything.

Another snippet from CNN:

"Several democrats who were briefed said Petraeus explained the unclassified talking points did not make mention of extremist elements because it was still classified – and could have compromised intelligence sources, CNN's Dana Bash reported."

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1...s-on-benghazi-come-from/?hpt=hp_t1

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter): ; he says attack on our embassy in Libya was terrorist attack

But it wasn't an act of terror, so that is grounds for treason.

Or something.

Is this the same hearing from CIA on Bengazi that McCain skipped to complain there are no hearings from the CIA about Bengazi?

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter): Well, Gen. Petraeus has just testified before congress; he says attack on our embassy in Libya was terrorist attack; so what does that make Eric Holder ? A liar, and guilty of a cover-up; (which is a serious crime for which he needs to be prosecuted.) http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Generals-Scandal/2012/11/16/id/464413 I can't put the story up, so here's the link. So........anyone who still believes Obama didn't "know" what Holder "knew"...........I have a bridge in Brooklyn you may be interested in buying...... Charley

Wow,


Wonder who you voted for..



The right wing is so desperate to get over their total humiliation in the election they are basically looking for any story that will hurt Obama.


Bengazi was a tragedy, nothing more than that.


Where was the Republican outrage when 'W' took us into two wars based on a lie costing hundreds of thousands of lives ?

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter): attack on our embassy in Libya was terrorist attack;

The essential facts are well known by now.


The ONLY POINT OF DISPUTE is the word "terrorism".



What used to be called a crime or enemy action is now always terrorism....its preferred meaning for Republicans is a Karl Rove-era electioneering Fear tactic that was last effective in 2004 (barely).


Every crime against America, and every time an American dies is NOT terrorism....which is commonly defined as the deliberate attack on civilians with the intent to strike fear into a civilian population.. Benghazi is "terrorism" only by the most alrarmist definition.



The election is over, scaremongering didn't work and Libya is a great US success story reversed from a former enemy.



Pu

It's scandal envy!

http://prospect.org/article/what-benghazi-about-scandal-envy