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Topic: Obama's Trip To Asia Region
Username: propilot83
Posted 2012-11-18 21:49:50 and read 1738 times.

President Obama has left Friday on a three country tour in Asia to visit with their leaders. You know I dont know if anyone knows anything about this....but I was wondering if he had planned this trip before the election on Nov. 6 or after? Because you know it takes time for the US Secret Service to prepare security in advance. Or I'm thinking maybe he was gonna go anyway if he lost or not....but I doubt that, because it takes at least two weeks to set up the security apparatus in the advance team of the US Secret Service. Thats good hes in the region, I voted for him. He's a great guy with a wise character.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49877451...fic/?ocid=msnhp&pos=1#.UKnICYaOqSo


Oh by the way one more thing.....as usual President always flies aboard his Boeing 747 and the back up plane when traveling overseas no doubt, and I'm sure he made a stop in Hickam AFB, in Hawaii to fuel, then continue on the journey as usual. And then on the return flight, he will probably stop in Elmendorf AFB, in Alaska to refuel and then head home, the great circle route!

[Edited 2012-11-18 23:44:57 by SA7700]

Topic: RE: Obama's Trip To Asia Region
Username: Aeri28
Posted 2012-11-19 00:46:56 and read 1738 times.

I'm sure these things are planned well in advance. I hardly doubt he could pull off a trip like this last minute. Plus, isn't there an Asia Summit in Cambodia?

He would still be President now had he lost. His Presidency would carry on until mid January.

Topic: RE: Obama's Trip To Asia Region
Username: stealthz
Posted 2012-11-19 00:51:14 and read 1738 times.

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
but I was wondering if he had planned this trip before the election on Nov. 6 or after?

Almost certainly before, he is attending a leaders forum that was not set up in the last 10 days

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
Or I'm thinking maybe he was gonna go anyway if he lost or not.

Once again almost certainly, he is still the president until January whatever the election outcome.
If he had not won the election I would assume he would discuss the trip with the President-Elect but otherwise I see no reason for changing plans.

Topic: RE: Obama's Trip To Asia Region
Username: Aeri28
Posted 2012-11-19 01:29:08 and read 1738 times.

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
Oh by the way one more thing.....as usual President always flies aboard his Boeing 747 and the back up plane when traveling overseas no doubt, and I'm sure he made a stop in Hickam AFB, in Hawaii to fuel, then continue on the journey as usual. And then on the return flight, he will probably stop in Elmendorf AFB, in Alaska to refuel and then head home, the great circle route!

I didn't see this earlier.. But interesting question. I live in Honolulu and if he had stopped here even for a moment, it would have been on the news. Hickam AFB is also @ Honolulu Intl or vice versa, it's on the same 'compound', so flights would have been affected. Unless he arrived stealth in the middle of the night, But did he stop and if so, where?

Topic: RE: Obama's Trip To Asia Region
Username: Rara
Posted 2012-11-19 02:21:33 and read 1738 times.

These visits are roughly scheduled years in advance. He would have gone regardless of the outcome of the election. If he had lost, it would have been a bit of a farewell trip.

Topic: RE: Obama's Trip To Asia Region
Username: windy95
Posted 2012-11-19 16:37:22 and read 1738 times.

Barack Obama blunders again on the world stage

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ni...blunders-again-on-the-world-stage/

Quote:
On his trip to Asia this week, President Obama struggled to pronounce the name of Aung San Suu Kyi, the most prominent human rights activist in the world. As The Associated Press reports (hat tip: Drudge Report):


As Obama stood next to the world's most recognized democracy icon, he mispronounced her name repeatedly.

Ever gracious, Suu Kyi did not correct her American guest for calling her Aung YAN Suu Kyi multiple times during his statement to reporters after their meeting.

Proper pronunciation for the Nobel laureate's name is Ahng Sahn Soo Chee.

Obama also “botched” his greeting of Burma’s new president, according to the AP:


The meeting came after Obama met with Myanmar's reformist new President Thein Sein – a name he also botched.

As the two addressed the media, Obama called his counterpart "President Sein," an awkward, slightly affectionate reference that would make most Burmese cringe.

Note to presidential advisers: For future rounds of diplomacy, the president of Myanmar is President Thein Sein – on first and second reference.

In addition, as The Weekly Standard notes, Obama was quick to use the Burmese regime’s preferred word “Myanmar”, to describe Burma, which is not the term officially used by the US government, or by Burma’s opposition activists.


President Barack Obama called Burma 'Myanmar' after a bilateral meeting with Thein Sein, the president of that country. From the pool report:

Obama used the word "Myanmar," the preferred terminology of the former military government and currently nominally civilian government, in a spray following the bilat, rather than use "Burma," the former name of the country, and the one preferred by Aung San Suu Kyi as well as the name the U.S. uses.

"I've shared with him the fact that I recognize this is just the first steps on what will be a long journey," Obama told reporters, with Thein Sein at his side. "But we think a process of democratic and economic reform here in Myanmar that has been begun by the president is one that can lead to incredible development opportunities.

What else they expect from a community activist?

Topic: RE: Obama's Trip To Asia Region
Username: windy95
Posted 2012-11-19 16:42:51 and read 1738 times.

Obama in Burma: 'I Wish I Could... Impose My Will on Congress'

Quote:
“Now, on other hand, as President, I cannot just impose my will on Congress -- the Congress of the United States -- even though sometimes I wish I could.”

So Barry wished he had the same power as the Dictatorship that he was visiting?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/11/19/Obama-in-Burma-Congress

Topic: RE: Obama's Trip To Asia Region
Username: DeltaMD90
Posted 2012-11-19 16:57:26 and read 1738 times.

Quoting windy95 (Reply 5):
On his trip to Asia this week, President Obama struggled to pronounce the name of Aung San Suu Kyi

Oh the horror. If this is the worse he does on this trip, kudos to him

Quoting windy95 (Reply 6):
So Barry wished he had the same power as the Dictatorship that he was visiting?

I bet you $50 he isn't saying he could wish he was a dictator, he just wishes he could actually get them to work together.


Come on windy, I know you're smarter that this. Not everything the President does wrong is some egregious scandal. Even the best presidents we have made tons of mistakes. Remember Reagan's "Berliner" comments?

I don't want to sound like I'm going after you, and I cannot prove this, but I have a suspicion that if this was a President Romney that made these same mistakes you'd be defending him, saying it was a simple mistake or it was out of context.

If I'm wrong, then at least take it from me: these sort of comments coming from many on the right are TURNING US INDEPENDENTS OFF. Only a few months ago I considered myself closer to the GOP than the Democrats but it was this silly nonsense of making everything the President does into a big deal that has swayed me away from the GOP and what I argued, lost the election for the GOP

Topic: RE: Obama's Trip To Asia Region
Username: TheCommodore
Posted 2012-11-19 18:09:09 and read 1738 times.

Quoting windy95 (Reply 5):
Barack Obama blunders again on the world stage
Quoting windy95 (Reply 6):
So Barry wished he had the same power as the Dictatorship that he was visiting?

Windy95, I think you need to start reading a different web site, like this one below.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/obama-ex...ic-burma-visit-20121119-29m4k.html

The reporting of his visit has been quite positive in general, in fact, this is the first visit to Burma of a sitting US President.

You may also want to take note Windy, that while in Burma, he pledged US $170 million in aid to build schools and institutions.

I note, that the article you posted, failed completely to acknowledge that minor point. Gosh, aren't journalistic standards dropping these days !!

Thought that would make you happy !   

[Edited 2012-11-19 18:58:38]

Topic: RE: Obama's Trip To Asia Region
Username: caliatenza
Posted 2012-11-19 18:22:07 and read 1738 times.

Quoting windy95 (Reply 6):

So Barry wished he had the same power as the Dictatorship that he was visiting?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/11/19/Obama-in-Burma-Congress

Well remember when Bush said the same thing..."oh i wish this was a dictatorship"..or something along those lines...

Topic: RE: Obama's Trip To Asia Region
Username: jetblueguy22
Posted 2012-11-19 18:56:23 and read 1738 times.

Quoting windy95 (Reply 5):
What else they expect from a community activist?

I think I've made it pretty well known I'm not the President's biggest fan. But I think it's silly to judge him based on a mispronunciation. I have trouble pronouncing my best friend's name, doesn't mean I'm a crappy friend. It's just awkward for me to say.

Quoting windy95 (Reply 6):
Obama in Burma: 'I Wish I Could... Impose My Will on Congress'

As does any President. Who wouldn't love to pass everything they like? I'm sure Bush would have loved to. Luckily we have a nice system set up to prevent this and make sure the people like the laws as much as the President.
Blue

Topic: RE: Obama's Trip To Asia Region
Username: Rara
Posted 2012-11-20 06:16:04 and read 1738 times.

The usual nitpicking of what otherwise seemed to be a rather successful state visit.

Also, whatever idiot wrote that article is smarty-pants enough to point out that it's awkward to address Thein Sein as "Sein", but then commits the very same mistake by refering to Aung San Suu Kyi as "Suu Kyi". Come on, man. Either decide that you can't care less about Burmese names, or diss Obama about it, but not both.

Quoting windy95 (Reply 5):

Proper pronunciation for the Nobel laureate's name is Ahng Sahn Soo Chee.

If the pronunciation of Burmese names is even half as complicated as other East-Asian names, "Ahng Sahn Soo Chee" isn't gonna cut it. You're gonna sound like an idiot either way. And you know what... these people are used to it, they don't give a damn.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 7):
Remember Reagan's "Berliner" comments?

That was JFK you're thinking of... "Ich bin ein Berliner" - but it doesn't really mean "I'm a doughnut", that's just an urban myth.

Topic: RE: Obama's Trip To Asia Region
Username: Revelation
Posted 2012-11-20 06:40:21 and read 1738 times.

Quoting Rara (Reply 11):
And you know what... these people are used to it, they don't give a damn.

Whereas right wingers can't wait to pounce on anything they can.

One reason they lost the election is their ceaseless pounding on Benghazi to the point of absurdity.

It was a tragedy, but McCain looks silly when he compares it to Watergate or Iran/Contra.

Topic: RE: Obama's Trip To Asia Region
Username: DeltaMD90
Posted 2012-11-20 09:33:53 and read 1738 times.

Quoting Rara (Reply 11):
That was JFK you're thinking of... "Ich bin ein Berliner" - but it doesn't really mean "I'm a doughnut", that's just an urban myth.

Ah, well, I can't think of any stupid comments by any Republican presidents to foreigners, probably because it's so nit-picky / desperately digging for criticism no one mentioned it.

I mean really, is this what our country has degraded to? There are so many people that just follow the President's every move, and when he makes the most minor of mistake (including not knowing the future in some cases) they write an article about it and lose their minds over it! Which leads right into the next quote:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 12):
One reason they lost the election is their ceaseless pounding on Benghazi to the point of absurdity.

It was a tragedy, but McCain looks silly when he compares it to Watergate or Iran/Contra.

   The things I get accused of and the names I get called because I don't fall in line and declare how evil the President is for covering something up. I go further than most people that think the story is BS and tell them that hey, maybe the President did indeed do something wrong! But I don't see enough evidence. And then the insults keep rolling in... I, *I* get called a stupid liberal.

But you know what, maybe I am a liberal now. Because I stopped moving to the right while the GOP goes off the right-wing cliff, maybe the center between the right and left zoomed way past me. Zoomed past enough Americans to get "the worst president evar!!1" reelected.

Sigh...


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