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Topic: Rupert Murdoch ‘Jewish Owned Press’ Comments
Username: Revelation
Posted 2012-11-19 11:57:14 and read 1425 times.

Seems Murdock first tweeted "Why is Jewish owned press so consistently anti-Israel in every crisis?" , then tweeted "'Jewish owned press' [has] been sternly criticised, suggesting link to Jewish reporters. Don't see this, but apologise unreservedly.", according to Yahoo! News.

It's all pretty baffling to me.

In the first tweet, he implies that press organizations should be controlled by its owners, which may be true for FOX NEWS but really isn't the general pattern in my experience.

In the second tweet, that's a poor excuse for an apology. He seems to be saying "I don't see why you're unhappy but I apologize anyways"? If he wants to apologize, shouldn't he attempt to be genuine?

Next, why bring reporters into it?

Can anyone decode the communications of this befuddled old sociopath for me?

Topic: RE: Rupert Murdoch ‘Jewish Owned Press’ Comments
Username: aloges
Posted 2012-11-19 12:22:20 and read 1425 times.

Quoting Revelation (Thread starter):
Can anyone decode the communications of this befuddled old sociopath for me?

I'll give it a go:

"I can do whatever the HELL I want to, you miserable underlings!"

A genuine Australian comment might of course involve some swearing, but I'm trying to keep this out of the gutter... odd thing to attempt, really, considering the subject.   Anyway, he's not exactly interested in journalism. He wants to sell his products and shift the public opinion towards his own. Paranoia and bogeyman-creating generalisations ("Liberal mainstream media!" "Jewish owned press!" and so on) are means that he and his media outlets employ to achieve their goals.

Topic: RE: Rupert Murdoch ‘Jewish Owned Press’ Comments
Username: Pu
Posted 2012-11-19 13:13:09 and read 1425 times.

No thought crosses his mind but that media can and should report as the political agenda of its owners dictate.

Tragically for the Right they now believe all media is biased merely because Rupert's media is. They have lost the ability to see the world in a non-partisan way and it is costing them elections....as they acknowledge only the "news" their own side generates and absurdly believe everyone else in the world fails fo see "reality" only they can perceive.




Pu

Topic: RE: Rupert Murdoch ‘Jewish Owned Press’ Comments
Username: Maverick623
Posted 2012-11-19 13:21:05 and read 1425 times.

Quoting Revelation (Thread starter):
Can anyone decode the communications of this befuddled old sociopath for me?

Basically, it boils down to the fact that many people think that because a news outlet doesn't show a bias towards something or someone, that outlet must be biased against it.

They have no concept of what true reporting is... all they want to see is opinions that agree with theirs, and it's gotten to the point that NO opinion is the same as having the opposite opinion of theirs.

Quoting Revelation (Thread starter):

In the second tweet, that's a poor excuse for an apology. He seems to be saying "I don't see why you're unhappy but I apologize anyways"? If he wants to apologize, shouldn't he attempt to be genuine?

I'll take honesty over phony hogwash any day, no matter how offensive.

Topic: RE: Rupert Murdoch ‘Jewish Owned Press’ Comments
Username: Ken777
Posted 2012-11-19 13:22:58 and read 1425 times.

All I can do is hope that the US keeps investigating the illegal activities of his companies and that information gained spills over to the US.

If he is tapping phones in the UK do you really believe that he isn't tapping them here?

Personally I'll be happy when the guy is replaced - regardless of how he leaves.

Topic: RE: Rupert Murdoch ‘Jewish Owned Press’ Comments
Username: DeltaMD90
Posted 2012-11-19 14:50:32 and read 1424 times.

What is blowing my mind is how some news outlets have less of a pro-Israeli bias but are being accused of being biased against Israel

Topic: RE: Rupert Murdoch ‘Jewish Owned Press’ Comments
Username: Revelation
Posted 2012-11-20 06:33:24 and read 1424 times.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 4):
Personally I'll be happy when the guy is replaced - regardless of how he leaves.

Seems he and his "echo chamber" are doing a good job of keeping the right wing out of touch with reality.

I still have a hard time figuring out why he went with the "Jewish owned press" comment, except for the obvious reason, that he's a lot more of an anti-Semite than is commonly believed.

Seems to me where there is smoke there is fire...

Topic: RE: Rupert Murdoch ‘Jewish Owned Press’ Comments
Username: Aaron747
Posted 2012-11-20 07:39:52 and read 1424 times.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 5):
What is blowing my mind is how some news outlets have less of a pro-Israeli bias but are being accused of being biased against Israel

You mean like, Haaretz? :P

Nothing is more annoying than bringing unwanted sociopolitical dimensions into an already difficult problem by way of media.

Topic: RE: Rupert Murdoch ‘Jewish Owned Press’ Comments
Username: 2707200X
Posted 2012-11-20 12:34:34 and read 1423 times.

Quoting Revelation (Thread starter):
Seems Murdock first tweeted "Why is Jewish owned press so consistently anti-Israel in every crisis?" , then tweeted "'Jewish owned press' [has] been sternly criticised, suggesting link to Jewish reporters. Don't see this, but apologise unreservedly.", according to Yahoo! News.

It's all pretty baffling to me.

I think Rupert Murdoch represents a hard core cynicism on the right that believes that he alone and his organizations particularly the Fox News Channel are only bastions of media that tells the truth and the other news fronts outside of his organization are not just biased for the left but fundamentally evil. I think he had alway been cynical but In recent times since the News Of The World scandal he has been on edge.

Topic: RE: Rupert Murdoch ‘Jewish Owned Press’ Comments
Username: Revelation
Posted 2012-11-20 13:12:51 and read 1422 times.

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 8):

I think Rupert Murdoch represents a hard core cynicism on the right that believes that he alone and his organizations particularly the Fox News Channel are only bastions of media that tells the truth and the other news fronts outside of his organization are not just biased for the left but fundamentally evil.

OK, but I still don't see how that relates to the "Jewish owned press" comment. If he feels all non-right-wing press is evil, why would he limit his comment to Jewish owned press? Most of the press in the US and elsewhere is corporate owned, so who is he addressing?

Topic: RE: Rupert Murdoch ‘Jewish Owned Press’ Comments
Username: GDB
Posted 2012-11-20 13:24:45 and read 1422 times.

Every word Murdoch says, tweets, is like a turd falling into the collective drink of any decent, balanced society.

The nasty old oligarch has presided over gross invasions of the privacy of not just celebs, but the families of murdered children, combat veterans, those initially questioned in criminal cases then cleared but still hounded by his hacks.
An early foreign entrant into the cable TV market of China, was only too pleased to completely go along with their rigid censorship, so much for the buccaneer of free speech as he liked to see himself. Then he created Fox News.

The late British writer, Dennis Potter, in a 1994 interview while terminally ill, said he had named his cancer, 'Rupert', after you know who.
Very apt.

Topic: RE: Rupert Murdoch ‘Jewish Owned Press’ Comments
Username: 2707200X
Posted 2012-11-20 15:02:44 and read 1422 times.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 9):
OK, but I still don't see how that relates to the "Jewish owned press" comment. If he feels all non-right-wing press is evil, why would he limit his comment to Jewish owned press? Most of the press in the US and elsewhere is corporate owned, so who is he addressing?

I think that Murdoch in his comment is trying to proclaim that the "Jewish owned press" is liberal like the rest of the press in the West. In his view he sees liberals and the "liberal press" an inherently anti-Israel and to him, the Jewish people and organizations in the "the liberal media" must also be anti-Israeli too. To me I see this as the ultimate all-eggs-in-one- basket mentality, a ____ is a ____ is a ____, guilt by association, a guy just giving up on reality in his cynicism and his dislike of other media.

Topic: RE: Rupert Murdoch ‘Jewish Owned Press’ Comments
Username: Pu
Posted 2012-11-20 15:15:55 and read 1422 times.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 9):
so who is he addressing?

The New York Times.



Its early editions still dictate what other news sources will cover that day, apparently.



Pu

Topic: RE: Rupert Murdoch ‘Jewish Owned Press’ Comments
Username: Revelation
Posted 2012-11-20 18:44:47 and read 1391 times.

Quoting Pu (Reply 12):
Quoting Revelation (Reply 9):
so who is he addressing?

The New York Times.

Its early editions still dictate what other news sources will cover that day, apparently.

Presumably not for the Wall Street Journal!  


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