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Topic: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: alberchico
Posted 2012-12-19 11:48:35 and read 2860 times.

http://austinist.com/2012/12/17/eddi..._nimibutr_offers_cruel_comment.php

What an idiot. Look at the comments his restaurant getting on yelp:

http://www.yelp.com/biz/thai-noodles-house-austin

I particularly like this one :

''This place sucks ass and the owner is a worthless piece of sh*t. Feel free to go inside and spit in his face: (Eddie Nimibutr). You ask why? Well read his Facebook post about the children shot at the Newtown school in CT''

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: HoMsaR
Posted 2012-12-19 11:51:55 and read 2859 times.

The first couple of lines of his post are rather harsh, but the rest of what he said isn't exactly untrue.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: cedarjet
Posted 2012-12-19 12:03:54 and read 2826 times.

Yes he is basically right - totally unjustified attack by the US (and UK and Australia) on Iraq kills, well, who knows, but most reliable numbers are north of half a million, many of whom are women and children - let's take a wild guess and say 100,000 children? No-one in the countries that prosecuted the war could care less.

Twenty white kids? The whole world stops spinning on it's axis.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: qantas077
Posted 2012-12-19 12:13:22 and read 2802 times.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 2):
Twenty white kids? The whole world stops spinning on it's axis.

could say the same for Syria too...I think he's saying a few things that some others seem scared to say.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: RussianJet
Posted 2012-12-19 12:30:31 and read 2780 times.

Whatever the rights or wrongs of people's muted reactions to events in far off places, it is totally not cool to belittle the fact that elementary school kids got murdered in their classrooms. I see what he meant, but really his comments made him just as bad as the things he so clumsily criticised.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: SmittyOne
Posted 2012-12-19 12:33:26 and read 2775 times.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 2):
Twenty white kids? The whole world stops spinning on it's axis.

Indeed. The massacre really shook me up because I have a ten year old girl who is just like those kids that were killed...but a hundred little brown children getting taken out by a missle doesn't necessarily upset me. That's pretty damned sad.

I think his comment was insensitive as hell, but the truth often is. Unfortunately, instead of considering what we might learn from what the man had to say, he will be vilified and shouted down for having the balls to offer a contrary viewpoint.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: usflyer msp
Posted 2012-12-19 12:54:07 and read 2740 times.

I understand and agree with his point. Unfortunately, the inflammatory way he stated it makes it easily to for others to dismiss and/or dance around.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: RussianJet
Posted 2012-12-19 12:57:40 and read 2738 times.

Quoting SmittyOne (Reply 5):
he will be vilified and shouted down for having the balls to offer a contrary viewpoint.

But he probably could have made his point without saying that he doesn't give a #*@# about the slaying of these kids, and so soon after it occurred while the country is shocked. I get what you mean, but his words were foolish at the very least in terms of their timing and specific make-up.

On another note, how popular is Yelp? Looks like there is a ton of negative postings on there, and that his business will likely suffer significantly. Am I likely to be correct in this assessment?

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: SmittyOne
Posted 2012-12-19 13:24:42 and read 2709 times.

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 6):
I understand and agree with his point. Unfortunately, the inflammatory way he stated it makes it easily to for others to dismiss and/or dance around.
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 7):
But he probably could have made his point without saying that he doesn't give a #*@# about the slaying of these kids, and so soon after it occurred while the country is shocked. I get what you mean, but his words were foolish at the very least in terms of their timing and specific make-up.

Absolutely. He could/should have just reminded people that those on the receiving end of violence all over the world feel the same way that we do right now in the aftermath of this shooting.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: Pyrex
Posted 2012-12-19 17:52:04 and read 2599 times.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 2):
Yes he is basically right - totally unjustified attack by the US (and UK and Australia) on Iraq kills, well, who knows, but most reliable numbers are north of half a million,

And by reliable you of course mean totally pulled out of your ass... not to mention that the vast, vast majority of all civilian deaths in Iraq were caused by other Iraqis. But of course, they are such a noble and civilized people, totally incapable of slaughtering each other... must have been those big, bad westerners.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: PC12Fan
Posted 2012-12-19 18:00:38 and read 2588 times.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 2):
Twenty white kids? The whole world stops spinning on it's axis.

Maybe. But I am more than confident that if Iraqi, Syrian or whatever - kids were "killed" by troops weren't the specific targets when the troops picked up their weapons that morning. Those "white kids" were mowed down by a guy whose plan it was to do just that from the very beginning.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: qantas077
Posted 2012-12-19 18:24:20 and read 2562 times.

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 9):
not to mention that the vast, vast majority of all civilian deaths in Iraq were caused by other Iraqis.

and then you had this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haditha_killings

and make sure you read the part about the rulings and how nobody was sentenced to jail for those crimes...but hey, the school gunman had the common decency to take his own life.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: Tupolev160
Posted 2012-12-19 19:10:11 and read 2540 times.

Quoting qantas077 (Reply 11):

Nobody was jailed a single day for the massacre of 24 people.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: RussianJet
Posted 2012-12-20 00:07:33 and read 2470 times.

Aaaanyway, meanwhile back at the topic, I see that the guy has actually shown some contrition, which is to be commended.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: sturmovik
Posted 2012-12-20 03:36:39 and read 2413 times.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 4):
muted reactions to events in far off places

The outcry in the media was very much muted in the case of the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting that left 6 dead. This was not far off (for the US). Just sayin..

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: IMissPiedmont
Posted 2012-12-20 03:54:42 and read 2402 times.

Perhaps he should stand by what he said about nobody caring if the children don't have white skin. I doubt of they had been black or Mexican, even in the US, we would have this incessant jabbering by the talking heads. If it was outside the US it would receive almost no mention.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: RussianJet
Posted 2012-12-20 04:19:30 and read 2395 times.

Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 15):
Perhaps he should stand by what he said about nobody caring if the children don't have white skin. I doubt of they had been black or Mexican, even in the US, we would have this incessant jabbering by the talking heads. If it was outside the US it would receive almost no mention.

I have to say that I'm pretty surprised to hear this. Do you really think that if kids of a different colour were killed in the same way at a US school that there would be a different or lesser reaction? Very sad if you do. To be honest, the race of the children did not for a second enter my mind. I thought most of all how awful it was that they were children murdered during their school day when they should be at their safest. Understand, I am not criticising here, just genuinely surprised, as I view the USA as a fully multicultural nation.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: SmittyOne
Posted 2012-12-20 05:05:38 and read 2361 times.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 16):

I have to say that I'm pretty surprised to hear this. Do you really think that if kids of a different colour were killed in the same way at a US school that there would be a different or lesser reaction? Very sad if you do. To be honest, the race of the children did not for a second enter my mind. I thought most of all how awful it was that they were children murdered during their school day when they should be at their safest. Understand, I am not criticising here, just genuinely surprised, as I view the USA as a fully multicultural nation.

I think there is truth to it, unfortunately. Take note the next time a pretty, young white woman goes missing...it's national headlines for weeks. Obviously not a statistical proof by any stretch, but I can't recall the same level of national hysteria displayed in say the Natalie Holloway or Lacey Peterson cases being directed toward the disappearance of a non-white woman.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: Rara
Posted 2012-12-20 05:13:00 and read 2355 times.

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 9):
not to mention that the vast, vast majority of all civilian deaths in Iraq were caused by other Iraqis.

Ah good, that makes it alright then.

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 9):
But of course, they are such a noble and civilized people, totally incapable of slaughtering each other... must have been those big, bad westerners.

The point was that we aren't so much better than them, at least not as much as we like to think. But apparently it went right past you.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: PanHAM
Posted 2012-12-20 06:39:52 and read 2326 times.

Quoting Rara (Reply 18):
Ah good, that makes it alright then.

it does not make it alright, but the huge number of civilian deaths caused by religious hardliners in countries like Iraq, Syria Pakistam Afhghanistan cannot be attributed to the USA- If a dictator is disposed and the peole do not take the chance to start living a peaceful life, instead cooking up their local feuds again which had been suppressed by the dictaor. then that's bad enough.

May be we should stop trying to bring "democracy", better, the rule of the law (and I do not mean the sharia) to countries that are not up to date to know what that is, in that case I am with you. As long as a certain religion has not gone through the process of enlightenment (the relatively few educated are not enough to persue that) we may look away. The question is, can we afford that? Shuld we look to the other side when school kids are murdered, should we ignore that nurses vaccinating kids against polio are killed? Should we allow illiterates to set the world back 500 years? Inclduing the diseases that had or have almost disappeared?

Mr. Nimibutr is not a particularly smart person, jeopardizing his business that way. Losing his business is certainly his problem. But may be we should not listen to the "arguments" such people have.


BTW, talking about caves, that other video is stunning as well. Unbelievable what cops are allowed.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: something
Posted 2012-12-20 07:19:58 and read 2306 times.

Quoting SmittyOne (Reply 17):
Take note the next time a pretty, young white woman goes missing...it's national headlines for weeks. Obviously not a statistical proof by any stretch, but I can't recall the same level of national hysteria displayed in say the Natalie Holloway or Lacey Peterson cases being directed toward the disappearance of a non-white woman.

The late comedian Patrice O'Neal has a comedy sketch about this, actually.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIM1gU_T2RQ

Keen observation and hilarious delivery.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: HoMsaR
Posted 2012-12-20 09:38:10 and read 2258 times.

Quoting SmittyOne (Reply 17):
I think there is truth to it, unfortunately. Take note the next time a pretty, young white woman goes missing...it's national headlines for weeks. Obviously not a statistical proof by any stretch, but I can't recall the same level of national hysteria displayed in say the Natalie Holloway or Lacey Peterson cases being directed toward the disappearance of a non-white woman.

Ever hear of Alexis Patterson?

What about Elizabeth Smart?

Alexis Patterson was a young girl from Milwaukee, WI, who was abducted and disappeared from her elementary school playground one day about 10 years ago. It made local news for a little while, then news faded away. Her disappearance apparently didn't warrant any national news attention.

One month later, Elizabeth Smart goes missing. National news for weeks.

What's the difference?

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: SmittyOne
Posted 2012-12-20 10:11:44 and read 2245 times.

Quoting HoMsaR (Reply 21):
What's the difference?

Agree 100% You've hit the nail on the head!

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: RussianJet
Posted 2012-12-20 12:30:03 and read 2215 times.

Quoting SmittyOne (Reply 22):
Quoting HoMsaR (Reply 21):
What's the difference?

Agree 100% You've hit the nail on the head!

In one sense yes, excellent point. On the other hand, none of this is improved by belittling the murder of 20 kids.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: IMissPiedmont
Posted 2012-12-20 17:59:37 and read 2161 times.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 16):

Sadly we have a way to go on becoming a multicultural nation. I just look north of my location to the people in Phoenix who are quite offended when they see a "Mexican" on the street and demand that their papers be checked to see if they "belong". It is very sad that the man in question did not think before inserting his foot in his mouth but it is an understandable outburst. Stupid for a public statement but those calling for his assault are equally stupid.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: Jetjack74
Posted 2012-12-23 07:05:47 and read 2033 times.

I wonder how many of these reviews are actually truthful, or just an angry reaction to the report on the comments?

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: Rara
Posted 2012-12-25 04:46:07 and read 1897 times.

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 19):
it does not make it alright, but the huge number of civilian deaths caused by religious hardliners in countries like Iraq, Syria Pakistam Afhghanistan cannot be attributed to the USA- If a dictator is disposed and the peole do not take the chance to start living a peaceful life, instead cooking up their local feuds again which had been suppressed by the dictaor. then that's bad enough.

Not all countries are able to organize themselves freely and democratically. Yugoslavia was a disaster waiting to happen which Tito kept under control. With him gone, terrible events unfolded which - perhaps - could not have been averted in any way.

If Iraq is not yet able to function without an authoritarian leader, and if you take that leader out (out of self-interest, one may add), then yes, you're quite resposible for the events that follow.

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 19):
May be we should stop trying to bring "democracy", better, the rule of the law (and I do not mean the sharia) to countries that are not up to date to know what that is, in that case I am with you. As long as a certain religion has not gone through the process of enlightenment (the relatively few educated are not enough to persue that) we may look away. The question is, can we afford that? Shuld we look to the other side when school kids are murdered, should we ignore that nurses vaccinating kids against polio are killed? Should we allow illiterates to set the world back 500 years? Inclduing the diseases that had or have almost disappeared?

Yes to all of the above, I'm afraid. I may be a pessimist, but I don't believe in the ability of countries to make objective and detached decisions about intervening in the affairs of others. Iraq is a good example. Americans believed that they BOTH increased their own safety and did the Iraqis a favour by removing Saddam. Today we know that only of the two was the case, if at all. So yes, I think that we generally shouldn't meddle in the affairs of others. We shouldn't sell them weapons, rig their elections, divide their country, train their soldiers, etc. etc. While it may be well-intentioned for one moment, it will only lead to trouble and sometimes tragedy in the long run.

Topic: RE: Noodle House Owner Comments On School Shooting...
Username: HoMsaR
Posted 2012-12-26 06:44:30 and read 1801 times.

Quoting Rara (Reply 26):
We shouldn't sell them weapons, rig their elections, divide their country, train their soldiers, etc. etc. While it may be well-intentioned for one moment, it will only lead to trouble and sometimes tragedy in the long run.

See also: Osama Bin Laden.


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