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Topic: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: JBLUA320
Posted 2002-11-17 21:32:25 and read 1823 times.

All things considered, you could typically work at 14... limited.

I want to get a job this summer so I can make some extra money, just to have around (ya never know) and was curious to know if anything at the airport is available that a fourteen year old could do.

I would anticipate no.. but I was curious to know anyway.

If not, there is always Acme  Smile

Anyway, tata. Thanks for the help!

-JBLU

[PS: The airport would be EWR(I have train access from my hometown)...or MMU if they actually do anything there]

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: BR715-A1-30
Posted 2002-11-17 21:39:57 and read 1806 times.

The Youngest you have to be to get ANY job at ANY airport is 18. Due to insurance and liability purposes.

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Usairways85
Posted 2002-11-17 21:44:14 and read 1799 times.

I think 16 is the minimium age and anyways i with most companies reducing their workforce i doubt they will be hiring that many people and will probably look for experienced older guys.

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: CMK10
Posted 2002-11-17 21:48:18 and read 1789 times.

When I was 14 I applied for a summer job at my local airport (Westchester County (HPN)). I was turned down and told to re-apply later. I did last year and I got a job when I was 16.
DC-10's Forever

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Frequentflier
Posted 2002-11-17 22:09:19 and read 1763 times.

Sorry to make this a little personal, but I have a follow up question.

If someone is over 16 (17) and wants a summer job at an airport, where exactly would they go to find one? Additionally, aren't there union limitations?

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: DesertJets
Posted 2002-11-17 23:06:38 and read 1735 times.

You might have a hard time getting hired at McDonald's at age 14. Drop by your school counselors office and ask about summer work permits. If you are under age 16 it is pretty much impossible to work, unless your state has work permits for underaged kids. You'd be better off mowing lawns and doing stuff around the neighborhood for extra bucks. Real work sucks... enjoy being a kid while you can.

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Mcdougald
Posted 2002-11-17 23:30:00 and read 1715 times.

It might not be legal for you to work at 14. Where I live, you could only work at 15 with the signed consent of a parent, at 16 without it.

An exception might be made if you were able to do something as an unpaid volunteer or intern, though even then it might be tough to find someone willing to take a chance on a 14-year-old. You wouldn't make any money doing it, but might get a letter of reference out of it or meet someone willing to pull some strings on your behalf later.

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Airbus A380
Posted 2002-11-17 23:47:35 and read 1700 times.

The Youngest you have to be to get ANY job at ANY airport is 18. Due to insurance and liability purposes.

Hmm.. I don't think so, coz I got myself a job with Burger King at Changi Airport Terminal 2 when I was 14. I looked really really young then and one of the tourist even asked my manager if I was a child labour or something..

Regards
Ishak
Airbus A380

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: JBLUA320
Posted 2002-11-18 00:34:55 and read 1677 times.

Thanks for the adivce. More or less what I was expecting.

What New Jersey has in mind for working laws, atleast recently, allowed 12 year olds to work under regulated circumstances, so 14 shouldnt be as strict.

And to Airbus A380, I would anticipate that the laws regarding Singapore vary than the laws here in the US.

Thanks For the Help
JBLU

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Trickijedi
Posted 2002-11-18 01:38:58 and read 1663 times.

Legally, 14 is too young to work. But if there's any way you can maybe perform some odd jobs from people you know then go for it. You just have to do it in a way whereby the govt. doesn't know you're performing labor in exchange for some kind of compensation. In other words, you have to get a job where you don't pay taxes.  Smile

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: JBLUA320
Posted 2002-11-18 02:37:14 and read 1652 times.

Tricki- Are you sure?

My high school said I could get my working papers at 14 and work in a variety of places (legally) if I wanted to??

Thanks
JBLU

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Portcolumbus
Posted 2002-11-18 03:40:50 and read 1640 times.

I got hired at Arby's when I was 15, you just have restrictions on how many hours you can work and how late (I think it was 7pm on weekdays).

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Illini_152
Posted 2002-11-18 03:46:19 and read 1640 times.

Well, from what I remember, I started caddying when I was going into my freshman year at highschool. That was one of the few jobs you could do then at that age (come to think of it, I think I was making around $350 a week; thats about what I was doing towing banners too. It was damned good money at the time)

It's hard work, but you'd be outdoors and enjoying those New Jersey summers (don't know where you were, but I spent last summer in the Cape May area, and unless you were on the beach, the heat and humidity SUCKED)

Check with any country clubs nearby if they have a caddy program. One of the many benefits, in addition to getting that great caddy tan, is there is a college scholarship available to caddies as well.

- Mike

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Trickijedi
Posted 2002-11-18 04:51:45 and read 1622 times.

JBLUA320,

Maybe it depends on the state you live in. I know that there are restrictions here in Illinois on the working age. I remember I didn't get hired until I was 16. You may want to talk to your school counselor about it a little more. It might be one of those situations that only allows you to work in a certain place, being employed by a particular employer that has limitations on your responsibilites.

Make sure and double check with the proper people.

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: GotAirbus
Posted 2002-11-18 04:52:41 and read 1620 times.

Airbus A380

Hmm.. I don't think so, coz I got myself a job with Burger King at Changi Airport Terminal 2 when I was 14. I looked really really young then and one of the tourist even asked my manager if I was a child labour or something..

Regards
Ishak
Airbus A380


No kidding!! When I went there, the crew at Burger King averaged about "Secondary 3 and up" age!

Perhaps the next time I pass through Terminal 2 for a drink before I go, I'll ask for you Big grin

(gotAirbus?)-(Got Commonality?)-(Have A Nice Flight!)

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Notar520AC
Posted 2002-11-18 05:21:27 and read 1617 times.

My friend works for UA, and she says I could get a job as a fueler and plane washer... not for UA, of course, but at SDL.

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: 9V-SVA
Posted 2002-11-18 05:23:45 and read 1615 times.

Ishak doesn't work at Burger King anymore. Nelson, you worked at A&W at 15, if I'm not wrong?

9V-SVA

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: GotAirbus
Posted 2002-11-18 05:28:13 and read 1616 times.

Yup. That place was so badly managed in terms of management.

(gotAirbus?)-(Got Commonality?)-(Have A Nice Flight!)

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: AA61hvy
Posted 2002-11-18 05:32:34 and read 1611 times.

i worked at kroger when i was 15, they took advantage of me!

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: USAFHummer
Posted 2002-11-18 05:37:33 and read 1608 times.

Try asking around at smaller FBO's...I dont think an airport like EWR would hire a 14 year old, but at smaller airports and FBO's its a possibility...

Greg

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Trickijedi
Posted 2002-11-18 06:28:33 and read 1604 times.

i worked at kroger when i was 15, they took advantage of me!

AA61hvy,
I'm pretty sure you're referring to work-related stuff right? And not... you know... something else?  Big grin

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Portcolumbus
Posted 2002-11-18 12:23:03 and read 1585 times.

I work at Kroger currently, pay is crap, but it's a nice place to work at.

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: AA61hvy
Posted 2002-11-18 18:39:13 and read 1563 times.

haha! yeah trickijedi, it was all work related, they would work me past certain hours, and before certain hours and paid me below minimum wage. i was dumb and didnt pay attention.

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Lindy
Posted 2002-11-18 18:58:42 and read 1559 times.

This is really pissing me off. Here in USA if you are 14 and work in not hazardous job its ok. But rest of the world is using kids to work for them and they call it "Child Labor". Few months ago I created over 500 CDs for Bureau Of Labor Statistics to present them on Child Labor International Meeting. USA look so good compared to other countries. Everything is BS. Here is some part you can download and read for yourself about Child Labor in general.
http://www.bls.gov/opub/rylf/rylfhome.htm

What is the youngest age at which a person can be employed?

The FLSA sets 14 as the minimum age for most non-agricultural work. However, at any age, youths may deliver newspapers; perform in radio, television, movie, or theatrical productions; work in businesses owned by their parents (except in mining, manufacturing or hazardous jobs); perform babysitting or perform minor chores around a private home. Also, at any age, youth may be employed as homeworkers to gather evergreens and make evergreen wreaths.

Different age requirements apply to the employment of youth in agriculture.

Many states have enacted child labor laws, some of which may have a minimum age for employment which is higher than the FLSA. Where both the FLSA and state child labor laws apply, the higher minimum standard must be obeyed.


Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Turbolet
Posted 2002-11-18 20:59:16 and read 1554 times.

Check about the laws and regulations of the country/state you live in. It varies greatly. Here in Malta, for example, the minimum age for legal employment (any type of) is 16.
-turbolet

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: JBLUA320
Posted 2002-11-19 03:25:05 and read 1534 times.

Anyone know where I can pick up these restrictions for the state of NJ?

Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it!

JBLU

(Perhaps I will look into KMMU, which is Morristown Airport)

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Trickijedi
Posted 2002-11-19 05:26:28 and read 1523 times.

JBLUA320,

This was taken from http://www.nj.com/sites/njea/tips_academics.html


For this reason, all New Jersey minors (under age 18) must have employment certificates or "working papers" in order to be employed.The school guidance counselor or district administrative office can help your child obtain an employment certificate.In addition, state and federal laws limit the hours students can work during the school year (see back panel).


Child Labor Laws

These laws are designed to protect children who work.While most employers follow the law, be sure your child is not encouraged to work too many hours or perform hazardous work, such as operating dangerous machinery.

Under age 14 - Most work is prohibited, except employment as an actor or model (under prescribed guidelines), employment in a parent's business (except in hazardous occupations), or delivery of newspapers.

Ages 14-15 - May work outside of school hours in prescribed occupations, such as clerical and office work, retail sales and merchandising, and food service. Work hours cannot be before 7 a.m. or after 7 p.m. (9 p.m. from June 1 to Labor Day).Exceptions to this time frame are often allowed, with parental permission, for youth whose employment is part of a learning experience.Work hours for this age group are limited to not more than three hours on a school day and a total of 18 hours in a school week, or eight hours on a non-school day and a total of 40 hours in a non-school week; they cannot work more than six consecutive days.

Ages 16-17 - May work in non-hazardous occupations or in agriculture up to eight hours per day and a total of 40 hours per week, but not more than six consecutive days.During the school year, work hours cannot be before 6 a.m. or after 11 p.m.



Check out this link as well:
http://www.state.nj.us/labor/lsse/lschild.html

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: Lindy
Posted 2002-11-19 18:36:29 and read 1508 times.

Lets face the truth. No airport will hire you. The only job you can get at any airport is at BK or McDonalds. But you wont work for the airport, only at the airport. Working at the airport is very serious and hazardous job.
Wait another 4 years and you should be glad that you dont have to work yet.
I am 25yo and I've been working since I was 15. So it puts me on 10th working year. I've been working in one company for 3 years, second company for 1 year. This job I have for over 6 years and + I worked second job 1998/1999 as a ramp agent on evenings and weekends going straight to the airport from my office.
Enjoy your school and free time. Your parents will always give you some cash so you dont have to wory about work.

Rafal

Topic: RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?
Username: AA61hvy
Posted 2002-11-19 21:20:36 and read 1504 times.

im with lindy, i knew once i started working, i would be until retirement, ive been working for 4 years, and i wish i had never started


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