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Topic: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: Heavymetal
Posted 2003-01-21 20:02:17 and read 1018 times.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21831-2003Jan21.html

It's put up or shut up time for The Democratic Party. Turn the page and present a new and innovative class of liberal and moderate opinion shapers to counter the right wing juggernaut, or sign aboard with the same collection of tired demagogues and media whores who find nothing but contempt in the vast majority of the general population.

Sharpton is a self-absorbed baffoon and an eyesore and Albatross to the Democrats, every bit as shameful as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are to common sense Republicans. Except Falwell and Robertson know how to push through their agenda stealthily and with minimal damage in the American middle to their chosen Party. Sharpton's ego makes every word out of his mouth a grating hand grenade in the living rooms that hold the all powerful swing voter.

The next few days and weeks will be interesting....if the Democratic mantra is a warm embrace with Sharpton, they learned precisely squat in the 2002 elections. But...if a more pragmatic Democratic candidate can find the guts to pop holes in this bloated windbag, that person just may be the next President.

Topic: RE: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: Airworthy
Posted 2003-01-21 20:16:25 and read 1010 times.

The Dems are their own worst enemy. You have WAY too many people going after an incumbent President. It's just not going to work. The GOP is FULLY behind Bush and demonstrated it last November.

Even if Bush falls on his face whether with Iraq or the economy who will be the leader that steps up, uses the bully pulpit to lead the country?

In times of trouble, it's human instinct to go with the reliable choice, so unless Bush really messes up, he won't have to move out.

Topic: RE: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: N79969
Posted 2003-01-21 20:20:37 and read 1005 times.

Heavymetal,

I agree with you wholeheartedly. It will be healthy for our democracy to have a viable Democratic alternative to the Republicans in 2004. Sharpton is not the answer.

Topic: RE: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: Heavymetal
Posted 2003-01-21 20:32:46 and read 1001 times.

Thanks En...I'm glad you agree but Im really counting on some of our reliable lefties here to tell me why I'm wrong.

Topic: RE: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: AC320
Posted 2003-01-21 20:42:52 and read 993 times.

I'm left handed and I agree with you, that count?

Topic: RE: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: N79969
Posted 2003-01-22 15:34:25 and read 957 times.

HM,

I guess you won.

Topic: RE: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: Heavymetal
Posted 2003-01-22 15:52:45 and read 955 times.

HAHAHA

Well that's good, isn't it En? Perhaps there's hope for all of us after all.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Topic: RE: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: Matt D
Posted 2003-01-22 16:32:47 and read 946 times.

well, just playing Devils Advocate here, we did have just as many people, if not more-after an incumbent Democrat President.

Anyone remember 1998?

I'm sure that all the Dems do, and now this is "payback time".

And he made it through more or less intact.

Topic: RE: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: Alpha 1
Posted 2003-01-22 16:37:04 and read 945 times.

The Dems are their own worst enemy. You have WAY too many people going after an incumbent President. It's just not going to work. The GOP is FULLY behind Bush and demonstrated it last November.

Airworthy, 99 out of 100 times, the party that is in the White House is FULLY behind the president. Duh. And you always have WAY too many people going after an incumbent. In '96, I think at one point there were 8 Republicans going after Clinton's job, weren't there? Big deal. You don't know much about presidential politics if you think there's something amiss here.

In times of trouble, it's human instinct to go with the reliable choice, so unless Bush really messes up, he won't have to move out.

His father was the "reliable choice" in 1992, Airworthy, yet despite the fact he fostered a successful war, he had to move out. If his son makes the same errors in judgement, he could end up the same. The election is a long way off. Don't count your chickens.

Two words to answer the title of this thread: They will.

Al Sharpton has as much chance at winning the Democratic nomination as David Duke does the GOP nomination, even though Duke's view are closer to reality in the GOP than Sharpton's are in the Democratic party. Sharpton will be a media circus for a while, then, like the loser he is, he'll go away.

Topic: RE: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: Jaysit
Posted 2003-01-22 16:40:18 and read 944 times.

Sharpton has as much of a chance of getting the Democratic nomination as Brittany Spears has of winning an Oscar.

He can be a spoiler, of course. You and I may find him to be an obnoxious buffoon, but he does have a draw in black urban communities, especially among those who are unaware of his past egregious behaviour, or choose to forget the Tawana Brawley episode. Sharpton has polished his image over the past few years, bought a few new suits, and hired an expensive PR firm. Apparently, the days of Tawana Brawley are behind him. If Kerry, Clinton, the DNC, etc rebuke him publicly, he will just garner more publicity, blame white liberal democrats for keeping him down, and help alienate the "crucial" black vote. The only way to shut him up for good is for a moderate, polished Black democrat(s) to step up to the plate and expose him for the demagogue he is.

Topic: RE: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: NormalSpeed
Posted 2003-01-22 17:01:51 and read 937 times.

"Sharpton is a self-absorbed baffoon and an eyesore and Albatross to the Democrats, every bit as shameful as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are to common sense Republicans."

Heavymetal,

For once, I completely agree. The problem with some of these so-called civil rights leaders is not what they stand for. It's that they are absolute hacks. Put up an MLK, and I'd vote for him.

'Speed

Topic: RE: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: Apathoid
Posted 2003-01-22 18:32:27 and read 931 times.

Personally, I think having al run is going to be more entertaining than having pelosi as minority leader. I can't wait for the debates when we get to talk about how the CIA invented the HIV virus to kill off the black man and all that other good stuff. The campaigning hasn't even really started yet and already the dems have me laughing all day long. Keep it up fellas...the political cartoonists are going to love you guys this election.

Topic: RE: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: NormalSpeed
Posted 2003-01-23 06:41:11 and read 905 times.

I sure hope Al gets the nomination. I wouldn't vote for him, but he'd be a hell of a lot more interesting to listen to than Edwards, Kerry, et. al.

'Speed

Topic: RE: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: Srbmod
Posted 2003-01-24 21:57:39 and read 886 times.

Al(batross) Sharpton should run for President; just not as a Democrat. He should run as a member of the Looney Party.

Topic: RE: Dems Must Say No To Sharpton
Username: TWAL1011
Posted 2003-01-24 22:19:32 and read 879 times.

In other Sharpton news, an extension cord is apparently the cause of the recent fire at Al's headquarters.


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