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User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 4
Posted (9 years 1 month 7 hours ago) and read 1299 times:

I have been wondering. Why do manual shift knobs show the pattern for the gears? If you are driving manual you should at least know were all the gears are on the car, shouldn't you?

1 - 3 - 5

2 - 4 - R


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User currently offlineCosec59 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 7 hours ago) and read 1288 times:

Quoting JAGflyer (Thread starter):
should at least know were all the gears are on the car, shouldn't you?

Correct. But what about learner drivers?


User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4683 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 7 hours ago) and read 1288 times:

I've had cars with this config.

--1-3
R-2-4

this config.

1-3
2-4-R

and this:

1-3-5
2-4-R

There are Italian cars (Ferrari) that have this:

R-2-4
1-3-5

They're not the same with all makes - it's helpful to have a guide.

[Edited 2005-11-23 22:41:54]

[Edited 2005-11-23 22:42:42]

[Edited 2005-11-23 22:43:13]


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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 7 hours ago) and read 1273 times:
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...And aren't Volkswagens:

R
1-3-5
2-4-6

...in which you compress the shift knob to slip up into reverse?




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User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 1256 times:

German gearboxes are
R135
24(6)



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 1245 times:

After a while you learn where the gears are. I can shift without even thinking about it.

Mine is
135
24 R

but the new car will probably be
R135
24


User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3149 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

Opel's Vectra (1995) is:

R 1 3 5
2 4

My Cherokee is the standard format:

1 3 5
2 4 R

The formats apply for both, left and right driving.

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User currently offlineEclipseFlight7 From Somalia, joined Apr 2004, 518 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 1230 times:

Manual gearbox? What are you, European? Say it like a proud North American.

Standard Transmission.

or

Stickshift.



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User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 1224 times:

Manual transmission? Stickshift? Standard Transmission? It's all the same!!


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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 1 hour ago) and read 1191 times:

Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 6):
R 1 3 5
2 4

Is it actually

R 1 3 5
2 4 - -

or is it

R 1 3 5
- 2 4 - ???


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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1173 times:

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 8):
Manual transmission? Stickshift? Standard Transmission? It's all the same!!

except for the fact that around here when you call it a stickshift people will understand what your trying to tell them  Wink


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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1164 times:

Quoting JAGflyer (Thread starter):
Why do manual shift knobs show the pattern for the gears?

Apart form the fact that both the number as well as the pattern of gears differs per manufacturer (as indicated by a number of posts yet), also the way to shift into "Reverse" differs quite a lot:
For my Opel (aka. Vauxhaul, Holden, ..) I have to lift a ring located beneath the main knob.
On other manufacturers, one has to depress the main knob.
On Ford Focus (European model) I´ve experienced that there was no such action required. "Reverse" simply slipped in ...
-HT



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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1162 times:

Toyota's Corolla has

1 3 5
2 4 R

But the Corolla XRS has

R1 3 5
2 4 6


User currently offlineMatt27 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1149 times:

My Volvo 940 is:

R-1-3-5
**2-4


User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1127 times:

Quoting EclipseFlight7 (Reply 7):
Manual gearbox? What are you, European? Say it like a proud North American.

Standard Transmission.

or

Stickshift.

 rotfl 


User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4518 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1122 times:

in general the japs have it as

1-3-5
2-4-R

Whilst the germans have it as

R-1-3-5
2-4

I think the old SLK had it as:

1-3-5
R-2-4-6



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User currently offline707CMF From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1122 times:

My Megane :
R - 1 - 3 - 5
- - 2 - 4 - -

I never look at it though...
However, when I drive a car I am not used to, I usually check at least once the R position.

Cheers,

707


User currently offlineMelpax From Australia, joined Apr 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1122 times:

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 1):
There are Italian cars (Ferrari) that have this:

R-2-4
1-3-5

My Folks used to have a Nissan Pulsar with this shift pattern - there would be an annoying beep every time you'd put it in reverse!



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User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1110 times:

My 98 Vectra has:

1-3-5
2-4
------R

You have to pull up the little ring and push it to the right of 5 and then back toward the rear.

I had a Fiat Punto which was the same but you had to push it down to put it in reverse.

Noel.


User currently offlineTEBguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 255 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1092 times:

my car:

R-1-3-5
**2-4

i have an aftermarket knob without markings

[Edited 2005-11-24 17:13:44]


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User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1090 times:

Quoting TEBguy (Reply 19):
i have an aftermarket knob without markings

Don't say that on these forums, they'll be onto you like a pack of hounds!

 silly 


User currently offlineTEBguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 255 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1076 times:

Quoting Noelg (Reply 20):
Don't say that on these forums, they'll be onto you like a pack of hounds!

It's not untill you said that that i re-reat my post, and realised what i'd said.

D'Oh!



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8766 posts, RR: 42
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1070 times:

Quoting TEBguy (Reply 21):
It's not untill you said that that i re-reat my post, and realised what i'd said.

GRRRRRRR..... Can you smell the Dog Chow breath?

My parents have a Passat and a Polo, the Passat has

1 3 5
2 4 R

and the Polo has

R 1 3 5
    2 4

where you have to push the stick down to shift in reverse. They did away with that on the Passat, but you still don't risk shifting from 5 to R because there's a blockade. As most others, I hardly ever look at the stick. Driving an automatic transmission always turns out werid because I automatically want to shift during the first couple of miles.



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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1049 times:
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Quoting TEBguy (Reply 19):

ROFL! Quote of the week.  cheeky 



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User currently offlineJush From Germany, joined Apr 2005, 1636 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1033 times:

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 4):
German gearboxes are
R135
24(6)

That's not true at all. It depends on the manufacturer. Your little thing applies to VW. But not to all the others.



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25 Post contains images AirbusA346 : Lets just have funny few minutes now, just to make a fool of my self. My dads Audi A4 is ==P ==R ==N +-D S P = Park R = Reverse N = Neutral D = Drive
26 CaptOveur : Some vehicles, like heavy trucks, put the shift pattern on the drivers sun visor. It is a handy thing to know because not all gearboxes are created a
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