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Why England's F*cked  
User currently offlineTheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1324 times:

No i am not a racist, i am just wondering if anyone else is watching the program on Sky one ATM. Francis Fulford, a complete idiot in my opinion is going on about how women should stay in the house and never go out to work and that men are way better. I've had to laugh so hard at some things he says, he makes such an idiot of himself.
Let's please not have any abuse of the english in this thread.
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Dominic


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User currently offlineChrista From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1305 times:

You don't include the Welsh, Scots and Northern Irish people in this discussion then?

Regards,
Chris


User currently offlineTheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1287 times:

Quoting Christa (Reply 1):
You don't include the Welsh, Scots and Northern Irish people in this discussion then?

Anyone is welcome

He's also a racist

Dominic



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User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1270 times:

Quoting TheSorcerer (Thread starter):
Let's please not have any abuse of the english in this thread.

Seriousely. look at the title of the thread. You don't think that is a bit abusive?


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13149 posts, RR: 78
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1259 times:

That hilarious documentary last year, 'The F***ing Fulfords, featured his family, old style aristos struggling with the upkeep of the family home and grounds.
Francis came over as an utterly politically incorrect buffoon, but who did not take himself too seriously.
His long suffering wife, after warning the kids if they did not stop watching TV instead of helping out around the huge, decaying house, she'd chuck it in the lake.
And she did.
But the kids looked to have a great childhood for all that, having all the grounds to run free in.
I think we can assume this new programme on Sky is just allowing Fulford to make an ass of himself for our amusement, Fulford is probably happy to do this for the fee.


User currently offlineTheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1252 times:

Quoting GDB (Reply 4):
Sky is just allowing Fulford to make an ass of himself for our amusement, Fulford is probably happy to do this for the fee.

LOL, yes i think so
He needs to start living in 2005 not in the 18th century.

Dominic



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User currently offlineTFSPhoto From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1193 times:

Quoting TheSorcerer (Thread starter):
going on about how women should stay in the house and never go out to work

The above quote is total crap. Im living with my girlfriend as 3 kids, i earn enough (or did till i walked out today!) to support them without my partner having to work. My typical routine, or should i say our, I leave for work at 4am, and dont return till 4-5pm depending on where i go.. I always tidy the house before i goto bed, and make the kids packups for school for the following day.. My partner doesnt like me doing this as her ex made her do it as he was a bone idle slob who thought a womens place was in the kitchen.. Wrong!

While im at work, my partner does washing and stuff, which i do at weekends or whenever i can to help out.. baring in mind the kids are 5, 3 and 1.. the eldest two are in school so she gets up to take them to school for 9am, comes home does whatever she has to do and then look after Aarron, the 1 yr old. When i come home thats her time out, as she goes out to work, part-time as extra cash because she doesnt want to be in the house all day.. while she out, i look after the kids and do whatever i can to help us out in the house, weather it be washing pots, ironing or cleaning..

I dont believe in one way relationships or certainly not that a womens place is in the kitchen!

Lew


User currently offlineRAMPRAT980 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 600 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1092 times:

The one thing I don't like about the U.K. is that if you are being victimized(crime) and you defend yourself then you run the risk of arrest for injuring the perpetrator. Its bizzare.


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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1082 times:

Ah, what a man. Keep women barefoot and pregnant, chained to the sink! Big grin

Lew, I'm with you. Both me and the missus work full time, she does shifts and I'm 9 - 5, so we have to share the onerous duties of household management. We have 2 hulking great teeneagers who seem to think that the house fairy comes along and does everything.

People who treat anyone as an inferior species are a sarnie short of a picnic in my view. When you take up with a partner, be it married or just living together, you do so to share life and all it's good bits and bad. This includes the chores. I HATE ironing, but, when the wife is on earlies, and comes home knackered, I'll get stuck in and do my bit. Same with cooking and the other stuff.

Share and share alike, and the chauvanists and other tossers should take note.

But, I think the title "Why England's F*cked" is a tad misleading. Still, if it gets people talking............ Big grin

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineTheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1078 times:

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 8):
But, I think the title "Why England's F*cked" is a tad misleading

No it's not, England's F*cked because Francis Fulford lives in England  Big grin
Dominic



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User currently offlineAmy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 1150 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1058 times:

Quoting TFSPhoto (Reply 6):

The above quote is total crap. Im living with my girlfriend as 3 kids, i earn enough (or did till i walked out today!) to support them without my partner having to work. My typical routine, or should i say our, I leave for work at 4am, and dont return till 4-5pm depending on where i go.. I always tidy the house before i goto bed, and make the kids packups for school for the following day.. My partner doesnt like me doing this as her ex made her do it as he was a bone idle slob who thought a womens place was in the kitchen.. Wrong!

While im at work, my partner does washing and stuff, which i do at weekends or whenever i can to help out.. baring in mind the kids are 5, 3 and 1.. the eldest two are in school so she gets up to take them to school for 9am, comes home does whatever she has to do and then look after Aarron, the 1 yr old. When i come home thats her time out, as she goes out to work, part-time as extra cash because she doesnt want to be in the house all day.. while she out, i look after the kids and do whatever i can to help us out in the house, weather it be washing pots, ironing or cleaning..

I dont believe in one way relationships or certainly not that a womens place is in the kitchen!

Lew



Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 8):
Ah, what a man. Keep women barefoot and pregnant, chained to the sink! Big grin

Lew, I'm with you. Both me and the missus work full time, she does shifts and I'm 9 - 5, so we have to share the onerous duties of household management. We have 2 hulking great teeneagers who seem to think that the house fairy comes along and does everything.

People who treat anyone as an inferior species are a sarnie short of a picnic in my view. When you take up with a partner, be it married or just living together, you do so to share life and all it's good bits and bad. This includes the chores. I HATE ironing, but, when the wife is on earlies, and comes home knackered, I'll get stuck in and do my bit. Same with cooking and the other stuff.

Share and share alike, and the chauvanists and other tossers should take note.

But, I think the title "Why England's F*cked" is a tad misleading. Still, if it gets people talking............ Big grin

Andy

And more power to the both of you! Big respect to you, guys.


Being in the situation I am in I have a somewhat unique perspective of the whole thing. Naturally I think women are better, but I acknowlege rationally that this really isn't the case.

I do however think the whole idea of sexual equality is false. It's like saying that Beer and Cider are equal. They aren't. They are different and in a few cases are complementary, but never the same. I'm not saying that people should not be treated fairly, but to expect men to have all the rights and privileges women do and vice versa is a little naive, IMO.



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User currently offlineTFSPhoto From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1030 times:

Quoting Amy (Reply 10):
And more power to the both of you! Big respect to you, guys.

Thanks Amy, Not seen you in the chat for a while, hope your keeping well..

My girlfriend, threatens to kick me out if i do something she wants to do, like she's just gone out to work, and iv'e already bathed the 3 kids, tidy'd up the kitchen and front room.. She said to me before she walked out that i should leave it for her for when she comes home because she didnt have time to do it today because of the company she had.. No biggie to me, she will kick my ass when she gets home but who cares!

I admit that i used to be in a relationship where i worked all hours god threw at me and i was only home for a few hours and i slept for that, and i felt really guilty that i wasnt able to wash pots, or simple stuff like that.. and i kept moaning about it.. because ive always believed that a one way relationship isnt good.. if your going to buy a house together, as we have just done, chores should be shared.. and if i ever met a girl that wouldnt let me do housework, she'd be dumped straight off!!

Lew


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13149 posts, RR: 78
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1013 times:

RAMPRAT980, that notion you mentioned is only true in very extreme cases.

Basically it's from a well known case when a farmer, in truth an eccentric hermit, who had been much troubled by break ins, shot dead one intruder, injuring another.

But what got him in trouble (and prison) was because he had shot them while they were running from him, not towards him, so not a threat.
Also his shotgun was illegal, unlicensed, why? Farmers having shotguns is perfectly normal here, he should not have had trouble getting one.

Any Policeman, any lawyer, will tell you that self defence, even with weapons, is allowed. If it IS self defence, what this farmer did, even if the scumbags bothering him had it coming, was shoot them in the back.

But the tabloids, TV and print, made a huge fuss of this case, making this farmer a cause celeb, but usually omitting the important facts about this case, which got him convicted.


User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1000 times:

Sheesh - can you imagine the reaction if I started this thread?

Ouch.

QFF


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13149 posts, RR: 78
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 974 times:

Well QFF, you see this programme is the English taking the piss out of ourselves.

Through a person who it was thought was a type who did not exist anymore, a blast from the past, a rare one too.
In truth a caricature, amusing enough, as the documentary last year showed, he's probably thankful for any fee from this latest effort.


User currently offlineRAMPRAT980 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 600 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 957 times:

If they were outside running away then there was no reason to shoot them. However here in the states its perfectly leagal to shoot someone who breaks into your home. Even if they have one leg out the window attempting to flee.

By the way how much of a sentence did the farmer get



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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 941 times:

Sorry the title and the context of the post didn't seem to correlate.. I thought that TheSorcerer believed that the program represented the stereotypical English male, rather than what he actually meant.. It was rather ambiguous!

User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13149 posts, RR: 78
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 918 times:

Ramprat980, IIRC, about 5 years, maybe a bit more, but he only served a couple I think, then got a fat fee telling his 'story' to a tabloid.

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