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User currently offlineMartinairYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 1209 posts, RR: 7
Posted (8 years 10 months 17 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

Just Finished watching it....... no surprises really.... went how the parties stated it would, so tomorrow an election will be calle dofr January.

Any comments?

Liberal for me again, I don't want a Bush-alike running our country!

M.


Chelsea Football Club supporter.
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User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 17 hours ago) and read 2089 times:

This is certainly going to be interesting! I expect the Liberals to have another minority. Really, what's the alternative?


But that was when I ruled the world
User currently offlineBasas From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 17 hours ago) and read 2083 times:

Quoting MartinairYYZ (Thread starter):
Liberal for me again, I don't want a Bush-alike running our country!

Oh yes...those Conservatives are just SO scary *roll eyes*. Oh look at that...you're from Toronto so am i really surprised? I don't know how much more it takes for you folks in Southern Ontario to wake up, and demand better.

I'll be supporting the Conservatives.


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 17 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

Anyone actually believe that anything will change regardless of who gets in?


A Grumpy German Is A Sauerkraut
User currently offlineA346Dude From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1284 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2072 times:

Living in Ottawa, I tried to get into the gallery to watch the vote in person but it was FULL. Too bad because it would have been neat to see.

As for the election, I would like to see the Conservatives win, but I pretty much expect another Liberal minority unless the Conservatives run a really great campaign. I think they would fare best if they focus less on the scandal and more on the idea that they are a viable alternative. And I think Stephen Harper has to work on presenting himself as a kind, compassionate person if he wants any shot at running the country.



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User currently offlineWrenchBender From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1779 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3):
Anyone actually believe that anything will change regardless of who gets in?

I have to agree with your rhetorical statement. The general apathy of the Canadian Public is under-whelming to say the least. Why aren't people mad at the findings of the Gomery enquiry ? Why aren't people mad at the state of the Canadian Forces ? Will a change in Gov't actually change anything ? Most politicians (world wide) are seen as callous, self serving, thieving Bas^4rds who really don't care for the people they supposedly 'serve'.

signed
Another disillusioned voter

WrenchBender



Silly Pilot, Tricks are for kids.......
User currently offlineBasas From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3):
Anyone actually believe that anything will change regardless of who gets in?

Yes...apparently, using this type of attitude, we should just keep the Liberals in forever, forget about holding our government responsible for their actions and forget about government accountability. I think more Canadians than ever are agreeing that it is time for a change.

[Edited 2005-11-29 01:57:05]

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26503 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

Quoting MartinairYYZ (Thread starter):
Liberal for me again, I don't want a Bush-alike running our country!

As long as you don't get an Albertan conservative, you will be safe from any kind of Bush-alike.

As far as liberal v. conservative goes, I have a funny take on that. As a rather leftist, but not true socialist, American who has studied Canada in a comparative political and legal context, it is amazing how different our two countries are, even though they are very similar and joined at the hip. Take my girlfriend as an example. In Canada, she is a conservative, always supports the party and can't stand people like Chretien. In the US, she would have people calling her a communist for not being able to imagine a country without national/provincial health care, free and easy access to abortion, easy access to any and all birth control methods, free and effective public education that is affordable all the way through the graduate level, etc. It is an interesting prospective to look at.



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User currently offlineBasas From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2055 times:

Quoting WrenchBender (Reply 5):
Why aren't people mad at the findings of the Gomery enquiry ?

Well i know enough people that are mad about it. The problem is with these "Liberal loyalists" who are trying to do anything they can to hold onto power. They'll put the scandal into the corner and try and pass it off as 'no big deal'. Not to mention, i know enough people that are upset with other Liberal policies (same sex marraige, etc.) that will be changing their vote this coming election. Polls show the two parties neck in neck, so it should be interesting...


User currently offlineBasas From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2052 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
In Canada, she is a conservative, always supports the party and can't stand people like Chretien. In the US, she would have people calling her a communist for not being able to imagine a country without national/provincial health care, free and easy access to abortion, easy access to any and all birth control methods, free and effective public education that is affordable all the way through the graduate level, etc. It is an interesting prospective to look at.

While that may be true for some folks, many of us "Conservatives" up here also support the US Republicans and George Bush.


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2049 times:

My point is, the Liberals got in, and there is scandal after scandal after scandal, everyone is upset, everyone complains. When the Tories were in power before with Mulroney, it was the same thing. What's the difference?


A Grumpy German Is A Sauerkraut
User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

Quoting Basas (Reply 9):
many of us "Conservatives" up here also support the US Republicans and George Bush.

As a Canadian who has lived in the US for ten years, let me just say yuck. The best thing about moving back to Canada is going to be getting away from the Republicans and Bush.



But that was when I ruled the world
User currently offlineA346Dude From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1284 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2038 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
As far as liberal v. conservative goes, I have a funny take on that. As a rather leftist, but not true socialist, American who has studied Canada in a comparative political and legal context, it is amazing how different our two countries are, even though they are very similar and joined at the hip. Take my girlfriend as an example. In Canada, she is a conservative, always supports the party and can't stand people like Chretien. In the US, she would have people calling her a communist for not being able to imagine a country without national/provincial health care, free and easy access to abortion, easy access to any and all birth control methods, free and effective public education that is affordable all the way through the graduate level, etc. It is an interesting prospective to look at.

You're right, I think there's a huge shift in the political spectrum between the two countries. Our right-wing party, the Conservatives, are more left-leaning than the States' Democrats. Heck, in the US "liberal" is a dirty word, whereas here it's the name of the governing party!

[Edited 2005-11-29 02:07:35]


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26503 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2036 times:

Quoting Basas (Reply 9):
many of us "Conservatives" up here also support the US Republicans and George Bush.

Too bad.

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 10):
My point is, the Liberals got in, and there is scandal after scandal after scandal, everyone is upset, everyone complains. When the Tories were in power before with Mulroney, it was the same thing. What's the difference

There is no difference. It is politics

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 11):
As a Canadian who has lived in the US for ten years, let me just say yuck. The best thing about moving back to Canada is going to be getting away from the Republicans and Bush.

Ah, the Harlot family. A reasonable one



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User currently offlineBasas From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2028 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 10):
My point is, the Liberals got in, and there is scandal after scandal after scandal, everyone is upset, everyone complains. When the Tories were in power before with Mulroney, it was the same thing. What's the difference?

That that was a completely different Conservative party over 13 years ago...thats like complaining about a government from the 50's and using it for your excuse not to vote a party in.

Quoting A346Dude (Reply 12):
You're right, I think there's a huge shift in the political spectrum between the two countries. Our right-wing party, the Conservatives, are more left-leaning than the States' Democrats. Heck, in the US "liberal" is a dirty word, whereas here it's the name of the governing party!

Well, around here, i know many who use 'liberal' as a dirty word. We are quite Conservative in some respects, and the 'huge shift' just isn't so big. I know alot of people who, without a doubt, would vote Republican.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
Too bad.

Um...right.


User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2027 times:

Wow an Airliners first....We turned something that has absolutly nothing to do with the Americans into a Bush bash fest...  Smile

Now i for one am glad there is an election...even if Martin gets back in. At least the people will decide who they want and not the gov't. For once the gov't does not serve at it's will...

Here is some Canadian fence sitting at it's finest...While i do not like the liberals as they need to lose so they can go off and deal with corruption. IF they win they will not do anything. I do not like the conservatives either. Some issues that are huge for me are in their radar. Now the NDP is aother story. I just cannot vote for them having been born in ALberta.

Perhaps Green party or for once vote for the candidate and not a party...

GS



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2022 times:

Quoting Basas (Reply 14):
That that was a completely different Conservative party over 13 years ago...thats like complaining about a government from the 50's and using it for your excuse not to vote a party in.

I'm not using any excuse not to vote any party in or out. Just because the Tories haven't been in power for over 13 years, it doesn't change the fact the politicians are politicians and their agendas haven't changed much at all since the foundation of democracy.



A Grumpy German Is A Sauerkraut
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26503 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

Quoting Basas (Reply 14):
That that was a completely different Conservative party over 13 years ago...

13 years doesn't change the nature of politics. Patronage will always exist on both sides.

Quoting Basas (Reply 14):
I know alot of people who, without a doubt, would vote Republican.

Every Canadian I know, conservative or liberal, wouldn't. I am sure there are a few, but again, Alberta.



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User currently offlineBasas From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2014 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
Every Canadian I know, conservative or liberal, wouldn't. I am sure there are a few, but again, Alberta.

Well then i guess you don't know too many.


User currently offlineLnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 2005 times:

I like to call myself "a fiscal conservative", but I do admit that I do not trust Harper at all.

The NDP are *not* even an option in my mind, as Layton is such a media whore, it bugs me to no end.

What I find troubling is this:


1) The Liberals are, in my opinion, at this point very cocky and very smarmy. They honestly think that they cannot loose, and that pisses me off. It means that we don't get any good news ('we' being the public) until an election is called. Watch the tax cuts and rebates come flowing back folks. Just you wait.

2) There is no real alternative in the Conservatives. I waited in the last election to hear what Harper had to say (Being a 'fiscal-conservative'), but unfortunately he's resorting to the same game plan (so far) as he did last time, which was dirty politics, and name-calling. I waited to hear what his plan was if I helped elected him as leader of our country, and to be honest, there was nothing but crap there. Besides, if we had elected him, we'd be watching the CBC talk about the body-bags coming back from Iraq right now. I don't know if I trust *him*.

I EVEN Challenged my local MP when she called on our house personally, to tell me what their platform was, and all she could do was talk about the liberals. I didn't wnat to hear about the liberals, I wanted to hear what Harper was going to do for ME.

I think what you'll find is that we'll either end up with a minority Liberal, or minority Conservative government, and we're going to have another 12-17 months of a Go-nowhere, do-nothing government, and then a no-confidence motion will be called again.

Personally, I think the best thing that could happen IN my opinion is that the liberals be returned to office for another few years, the Conservatives bump Harper out of the lead, and someone else step into view, someone who has some new ideas, and less of the crap-talk that politics in this country has turned to.

Quoting Basas (Reply 2):
Oh yes...those Conservatives are just SO scary *roll eyes*. Oh look at that...you're from Toronto so am i really surprised? I don't know how much more it takes for you folks in Southern Ontario to wake up, and demand better.

The problem that exists here in the GTA and Southern Ontario is that the Liberal government for years has pandered to the immigrant population. While there is nothing wrong with this IF it has furthered the cause, the problem exists wherein there are just sooo many immigrant families living in this area, that their votes tend to out-number the 'long-time' members of society here.

From what I've understood from reading up on past elections, is that the immigrant population tend to vote liberal in droves, which could be why the Liberals keep getting elected by means of Ontario.

And, as for your comment about the Conservatives being scary, it's nto the conservatives I'm scared of, it's Harper.

Quoting WrenchBender (Reply 5):
Why aren't people mad at the findings of the Gomery enquiry ?

People are. Ask around. But the problem is that most Canadians FORGET that their VOTE is their VOICE. Most Canadians have the attitude of "Oh well, if we vote the conservatives in, we'll just end up with another corrupt government". That's the problem.

Quoting WrenchBender (Reply 5):
Why aren't people mad at the state of the Canadian Forces ?

Most of the people who are among the voting age in Canada are from a time when war is fought in other countries. It's not something that's done here. Canadians don't realize that having a military is our ONLY way of remaining a soverign nation. Even Sweden, who is neurtral in the military sense, has a small military.

Without our military, we become another State to the US.

Having said that, I STILL think we made the right choice in not going to Iraq. My opinion has changed since the beginning of the war, however, knowing what I know now. (We were mislead.)

Quoting Basas (Reply 9):
While that may be true for some folks, many of us "Conservatives" up here also support the US Republicans and George Bush.

To speak for myself, not this Conservative. I do NOT believe in Religion mingling in the affairs of the government, like the Republicans do. I'm more in line with the Democrats when it comes to how money is spent, and how they tend to take care of the people of the country, versus the hard-lined, religious approach the Republicans have positioned themselves as.

1011yyz



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User currently offlineA346Dude From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1284 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 1999 times:

Quoting Lnglive1011yyz (Reply 19):
the Conservatives bump Harper out of the lead, and someone else step into view, someone who has some new ideas, and less of the crap-talk that politics in this country has turned to.

Peter MacKay. I think the man would have a serious chance at forming a government.

Edit: Post 400! Yay!  Wink

[Edited 2005-11-29 02:42:20]


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User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

Quoting Lnglive1011yyz (Reply 19):
I think what you'll find is that we'll either end up with a minority Liberal, or minority Conservative government, and we're going to have another 12-17 months of a Go-nowhere, do-nothing government, and then a no-confidence motion will be called again.

Personally, I think the best thing that could happen IN my opinion is that the liberals be returned to office for another few years, the Conservatives bump Harper out of the lead, and someone else step into view, someone who has some new ideas, and less of the crap-talk that politics in this country has turned to.

BINGO!
You saved me lots of typing.

Thanks.
G


User currently offlineLnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

Quoting A346Dude (Reply 20):
Peter MacKay. I think the man would have a serious chance at forming a government.

THANK YOU.. To Quote Canuckpaxguy, "BINGO!"

1011yyz



Pack your bags, we're going on a sympathy trip!
User currently offlineLnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 1962 times:

Quoting A346Dude (Reply 20):
Edit: Post 400! Yay!

By the way, thought i'd say congrats.. I'm approaching 600  Wink

Mike



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11660 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 1959 times:

Forgive an ignorant question from an American, but will you be electing a new Prime Minister in January? Paul Martin is the current PM, correct?

GO CANUCKS!!



Life in the wall is a drag.
25 Greasespot : That is correct Seb. Well Jan or Feb depending on when he calls the election. GS
26 Canuckpaxguy : Not necessarily. In Canada, your vote is for your local MP (Member of Parliament) who represents the interests of the voters in his/her riding on fed
27 Lnglive1011yyz : Just a curious question to peopel who may know -- What happens if the PM-elect does NOT win in his/her own riding? Can another liberal MP-elect give
28 Greasespot : It happened in Alberta under Don Getty. He lost but the conservatives won..He ran in aonther by-election that someone gave up... Not sure on a nationa
29 Canuckpaxguy : That's exactly what happens. The Prime Minister needs to be an MP otherwise he/she does not have a vote in the House of Commons. It would be pretty e
30 Canuckpaxguy : I'm curious as to what will happen in Belinda Stronach's riding (Aurora / Newmarket). If you remember, she switched from the Conservative Party to joi
31 Basas : I would certainly hope not. She has no business being in a political spot. I don't believe she cares about the party, the issues, or the people as a
32 A332 : This election is a total waste of time... none of the opposition parties have any sort of attractive platform, so we're going to end up re-electing th
33 Post contains links SKYSERVICE_330 : Insulting sourthern Ontario isn't going to get votes. The inability of the Conservatives to gain ground in S. Ontario points to their own shortcoming
34 SKYSERVICE_330 : She was a Conservative before she was a Liberal. If she has no business in a political spot, she doesn't care about the party, issues or the people t
35 Yyz717 : I'm sure most people vote for the party, not the individual. She should be booted out. She betrayed the trust placed on her. She is a shallow mindles
36 VonRichtofen : Have you ever lived in Alberta? Just so you know, majority of Albertans were opposed to Bush's Iraq war. Of course there's a fair number of redneck m
37 SKYSERVICE_330 : Spoil your ballot?
38 Yyz717 : As much as I dislike the Tory stand on social issues (I support aborton, and gay marriage), I will vote Conservative since they are the party of free
39 Post contains images A332 : Calgary was also the major Canadian city that had the highest percentage of support go to the Green party (other than Victoria BC)... which is intere
40 Yyz717 : Diane is a highly regarded middle-of-the-road hardworking MP with a national profile. We should all so blessed with such a good MP.
41 Post contains images A332 : She's also a founding member of the old Reform party and stands for nothing that I believe in... hence my opposition to her holding the seat...
42 Basas : I find it ironic that you start yelling about how bad other politicians are, and how dumb the people are for voting for that party, when your own pol
43 SKYSERVICE_330 : No certainty in that what so ever. Canada is not the U.S.. and there is no reason to compare ourselves to them. If it happens in the U.S. does it mea
44 A332 : Oh go curl up with your copy of the Western Standard magazine and stop with the petty & childish remarks about the liberal electorate in this country
45 Skydrol : ... and immigration quotas are planned to be increased by an additional 300,000 / year. This is the ultimate Liberal vote-padding system. They will b
46 Yyz717 : Exactly. Many ethnic voters are blindly loyal to the Liberals as payback or thanks for "letting them in". I agree totally.
47 Lnglive1011yyz : Ahhh.. but it is NOT a waste of time my friend. Even though we are going to be ending up most likely with the same result, what this election will sh
48 Post contains images KLMA330 : Not this again! It seems like only yesterday I went to vote... Last time I voted for Layton just to punish the liberals with a minority gov't. Unfortu
49 A332 : Actually, it's a huge waste of time... again, NONE of the opposition parties offer an attractive platform... and we're going to end up with the same
50 A346Dude : Wow, who would have guessed it - Paul Martin posts on a.net under the name of A332! I can't believe you have bought into the Prime Minister's BS. The
51 Post contains images Basas : Well, i honestly couldn't believe it...the election called this morning for Jan 23, and i'm already seeing Liberal commercials on TV! Not sure if any
52 Basas : And you go read Moveon.org, and the updated Liberal.ca websites and keep telling yourself, "we're crooks, but who cares?"... You're right...we don't.
53 Post contains images A332 : Ummm... what rock have you been hiding under? The Conservatives have been pushing for a non-confidence defeat ever since their leader was sent crying
54 A332 : You'll also note that not once have I actually pledged any sort of allegiance to Paul Martin or the Liberal party... if you'd actually read what I ha
55 YUL2010 : couple comments... We all know that private/public health care wont work. How is it fair that the rich will have easier health care access than the p
56 Basas : Right...we should be proud we let young offenders get out easy to the point criminals aren't scared of committing crimes, and proud we're letting mur
57 YUL2010 : Don't be such a bone-head... I'm talking about the death penalty, not letting offenders out of prison... and you sarcasm btw is getting annoying. Grow
58 Skydrol : Works well in England. You should read about it. Very fair. The 'rich' contribute more taxes which fund the health care system. And if they choose to
59 Post contains images A332 : You know... as we've always said to the French for years... If you don't like it, there's the door. No one is keeping you here. Head down to the Sout
60 N1120A : Given that a majority of the provinces had already approved same sex marriage AND that none of them used their 5 year suspension, I really don't see
61 Basas : I would argue that you're wrong considering Harper said yesterday he intends to bring up the option of changing back to the traditional definition of
62 Basas : Oh great. Now you're telling us who belongs and who doesn't. Perhaps you should head over to socialist France..where you belong! Funny how you say "i
63 BHXFAOTIPYYC : Ah fond memories of politics in Canada .... late 80's early 90's - Preston Manning, Ed Broadbent (liked the guy, hated his politics)... back in 1990is
64 Basas : They do not block out the election results anymore (as of 2004 election). So BC voters can see the Newfoundland results before they vote... We never g
65 BHXFAOTIPYYC : Just why do they think things will be better outside Canada? I have never ever understood this. Is it correct that if they went Quebec would be a muc
66 ACDC8 : Which party put the GST into motion in the first place?
67 BHXFAOTIPYYC : Quoting Brian: The other Brian I believe, to replace the FST. I seem to recall a few dicussions at the time about if you buy milk in a supermarket it'
68 Post contains images MartinairYYZ : Not only that, the income tax too! The bottom line is that the NDP are the #1 choice, as an example, they were running Ontario in '84, and everyone h
69 ACDC8 : NDP? That was a very dark period of time in BC's history. As much as I don't like the libs or tories, but the NDP is at the bottom of my respect list
70 A332 : You seem to lack the ability to process simple sentence structure.. why don't you go back and have a look at what I said... AGAIN. Individuals who do
71 Post contains links and images A346Dude : If I could distract your attention from the present argument for a moment: I was just reading a rather interesting election FAQ on CBC's website. Earl
72 Post contains links Lnglive1011yyz : Factually incorrect: William (Bill) Davis 1971-1985 Progressive Conservative Frank Miller 1985-1985 Progressive Conservative David Peterson 1985-1990
73 ScarletHarlot : This statement gave me the creeps. It is exactly the kind of stuff we heard here in the US during last year's election. I DO NOT want to see Canada g
74 Post contains images A346Dude : Technically, he said he would put it to a free vote in the House of Commons. Of course, no one has any clue what the result of that free vote would b
75 Post contains images Lnglive1011yyz : WHOOO YA!!!!!!!! I agree THIS is what makes me dislike Harper.. PERIOD. Sometimes laws that are brought forth are unpopular by a very vocal group of
76 Canuckpaxguy : Have you ever noticed that ScarletHarlot always seems to sum up the feelings of so many people in so little words? I could learn a thing or two from
77 Post contains images Lnglive1011yyz : Amen to that 1011yyz
78 Post contains images ScarletHarlot : Aw shucks, guys.
79 Wobbles : I cringed when I heard about this last night, Martin and the Liberals would be the best of three bad options. Hopefully, in Canada, they will keep thi
80 LH477 : Strongly AGREE......Welcome to RR list( not that it counts from much) As for me, I will be voting Liberal. Harper gives me the creeps.....McKay, mayb
81 Post contains links and images YooYoo : http://www.greenparty.ca/ Ever considered these guys? I heard this morning that they will be represented in every riding? Some polls had them as high
82 LH477 : Does the Marijuana party plan on having some candidates, I could see myself voting for them.
83 ScarletHarlot : I always loved how the Rhinoceros party has a hindquarters instead of a headquarters. In Kenora-Rainy River, the hindquarters was a pizza parlour. Tha
84 Post contains images SKYSERVICE_330 : Sorry, I should have been more specific. What I meant is that I believe the debate is largely over for most voting Canadians. While Harper may try to
85 Post contains links and images SKYSERVICE_330 : This may be an option for some people. "The Sex Party aims to develop a sex-positive culture. We are the world's first registered political party dedi
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