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25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit  
User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4775 times:

On 29 November 1980 ABBA's Super Trouper reached No 1, their last song to reach the top of the charts in the UK and many European countries. 25 years later the song is still being played on the radio, in the theatres and in many houses.

Do you think that come 29 November 2030, Britney, Madonna, Girls Aloud or Black Eyed Peas songs will still be played as regularly as ABBA is today?


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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4771 times:

Madonna? Well, she has been around for twenty years or so, so I can see her being part of the "golden oldies" 25 years from now.

As for Shitney Spears and your other examples... I don't think anyone will remember them ten or fifteen years from now, except for being tragic examples of music perversions of the early 21st century. Big grin



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User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3769 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4770 times:

Madonna - yes. The others - Hell no!

Cheers
Mats



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User currently offlineAirEuropeUK733 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 976 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4765 times:

Was that really 25 years ago??? Now THAT makes me feel old!

In response to the question I doubt songs by the likes of Britney, Black Eyed Peas or Girls Aloud will still be played on the radio in 5 years time - let alone 25 years time!!

The big difference between these no-hopers and ABBA is that ABBA had talent and could sing, play instruments and write their own stuff. Now that's what I call the full package!

I know I sound like a  grumpy   old  man!

AE733



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4749 times:

how ironic given the current no.1 here in the UK uses a heavy sample of one of their tracks...

as to the question - Madonna yes, the others no.



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User currently offlineAirEuropeUK733 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 976 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4740 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 4):
how ironic given the current no.1 here in the UK uses a heavy sample of one of their tracks...

and how mediocre and crap it would be without that sample!

AE733



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User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4733 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 4):
how ironic given the current no.1 here in the UK uses a heavy sample of one of their tracks...

It was apparantly the first time that Benny and Bjorn gave permission for one of their songs (Gimme Gimme Gimme) to be used. Normally they are extremely protective of copyright. Just makes me wonder how the ABBA imitations, like Bjorn Again, Abbacadabra etc, managed to get away with it in the past.



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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4634 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4727 times:

Quoting BCAL (Reply 6):
It was apparantly the first time that Benny and Bjorn gave permission for one of their songs (Gimme Gimme Gimme) to be used. Normally they are extremely protective of copyright. Just makes me wonder how the ABBA imitations, like Bjorn Again, Abbacadabra etc, managed to get away with it in the past.

Actually, it's the second time they've given permission - the Fugees used the riff from The Name of the Game in their track Rumble in the Jungle.

Someone also used it illigally in the 80s (Edelweiss) and they got sued.

Cover bands etc have never used an actual sample from the original recordings and that is allowed.

Trent.



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User currently offlineAmericanB763ER From Luxembourg, joined Sep 2005, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4724 times:

Quoting BCAL (Thread starter):
On 29 November 1980 ABBA's Super Trouper reached No 1, their last song to reach the top of the charts in the UK

IIRC they had a total of 9 UK no.1 hits in a row including ST. The namesake album was also their last one to contain a no.1 single.

"The Visitors" - their ultimate new album - was still great and it is one of my favourites.


Marco


User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4716 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 7):
Actually, it's the second time they've given permission - the Fugees used the riff from The Name of the Game in their track Rumble in the Jungle.

Classic Lover - you are absolutely correct. This quote is taken from the Mamma Mia website

Quote:
MAMMA MIA!’s Benny Andersson and Björn Ulvaeus have broken their strict "no sample" rule to grant Madonna the honour of using a song from their smash hit Broadway musical. Madonna's new single “Hung Up” will feature a sample of ABBA's “Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!” making her one of the rare artists to be endorsed by the Super Group. Only The Fugees were granted the honour when they used a sample from "The Name Of The Game" in their 1996 track "Rumble in the Jungle". “Hung Up” is the first single from the album “Confessions on a Dance Floor,” due out on 14 November.



MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4708 times:

There was also a dance track in about 1998 or 1999 called "Hammer to the Heart" by The Tamperer, which also used a sample from Gimme Gimme Gimme. Whether this was legal or not I don't know, but nobody batted an eyelid at the time.

I agree - I think Madonna's music will still be around and popular (have to say I'm not a great fan myself) but I sincerely hope that Britney Spears and Girls Aloud are off our air-waves, consigned to the dustbin of history and their singers end up where they belong - on the cover of FHM, where they can be seen but not heard.



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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4692 times:

BTW Bjorn.U has bought his neighbours summerhouse, where he and Benny wrote some of the early stuff.

User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4684 times:

If you like ABBA you should definitely go see Mama Mia, the musical based on their songs. It's very well done.

User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4680 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 12):
If you like ABBA you should definitely go see Mama Mia

Been 15 times (and going again at Christmas plus several seats booked for different dates througout next year) - shows what a sad life I have but I simply adore it as you leave the show feeling very happy.

And for a.net members who think it might be a show based on the life of ABBA, it is not. It is a story set to ABBA songs, and it really works. At the end of every performance, the theatre goers (all ages) get up and dance in the aisles.



MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4674 times:

ABBA was not in my lifetime, as i was born in 1980. But I was introduced to them by my mom, who just adores them. They were a really talented group with great voices and fantastic songs. I still listen to the ABBA GOLD album.

THe other newbies? Well not including madonna, they may not be remembered in a few years for their music. But who knows...

Madonna is a classic, she is timeless and she does not belong in the same crew as Spears etc..



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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4634 posts, RR: 23
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4673 times:

Quoting Captaink (Reply 14):
ABBA was not in my lifetime, as i was born in 1980.

Yes they were, they recorded their last song in 1982.

Madonna will be remembered ongoingly, as will Michael Jackson, Prince, and host of 1980s artists. Even people with one huge hit (Sinead O'Connor for example) will be remembered for their stuff.

A lot of the rock bands will be as well I should think.

Trent.



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User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4667 times:

I too was only born in 1980, I was introduced through my family having all of the albums on vinyl! Truly one of the greatest bands of all time, certainly my favourite, I have even recently got the Spanish version of "Gold" - "Oro".

Incredible to hear them sing the songs in Spanish, there is a lot more emotion in the voices in Spanish.

Cheers,
Noel.


User currently offlineRAMPRAT980 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 600 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4655 times:

Quoting BCAL (Thread starter):
Britney

Britney will only be remembered for her posing nude(someday) she needs another stunt to re-lite the fire in her career. Her being a mom was the first of many stunts



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User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 50
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4653 times:

I was an Abba fan in my teens. Yes, I admit it. I also still enjoy listening to them once and a while.

Charles, SJ



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User currently offlineJean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2116 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4650 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 15):
Even people with one huge hit (Sinead O'Connor for example) will be remembered for their stuff.

Some one-hit wonders are still played, but not others. Being in Ireland, maybe you still hear Sinead O'Connor. But it has been YEARS since I've heard "Nothing compares to you" on the radio. So I don't think she'll really be remembered. She already isn't by most people, I guess.

Another more recent example of a group with a huge, huge hit that has already been basically forgotten is Fastball. I haven't heard "The Way" in a long time, either.

JL



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39834 posts, RR: 74
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4645 times:

Quoting BCAL (Thread starter):
Do you think that come 29 November 2030, Britney, Madonna, Girls Aloud or Black Eyed Peas songs will still be played as regularly as ABBA is today?

Madonna? yes

Britney? no  no 

Black Eyed Peas? they'll keep a small cult following


Girls Aloud? never even heard of them


Count me in as a ABBA fan. My favorite album of there's is 'The Album' from 1977. Great stuff.
A friend of mine is such a diehard ABBA fan that he went on a pilgramage to Stockholm, Sweden to visit there shrine.



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User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4681 posts, RR: 47
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4642 times:

Quoting BCAL (Thread starter):
On 29 November 1980 ABBA's Super Trouper reached No 1, their last song to reach the top of the charts in the UK and many European countries. 25 years later the song is still being played on the radio, in the theatres and in many houses.

Do you think that come 29 November 2030, Britney, Madonna, Girls Aloud or Black Eyed Peas songs will still be played as regularly as ABBA is today?

Good for ABBA.

I'll be happy when AC/DC has the own musical play in Vegas.  Smile



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User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4639 times:

Great to see so many ABBA fans.

Trivial bit of information, relevant to a.net, in that if BA and AA were ever to merge (and thanks to fellow a.net member GeoffM who made the original suggestion), the merged airline should be called ABBA! OK, so not quite the right initials but it stops any argument whether BA or AA should come first in the new name.



MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
User currently offlineSaigonhouston From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4607 times:

Did I hear ABBA?
I need a new sewing machine so I can make my flared trousers, Bell Bottoms and shiny clinging lycra shirt........
Oh....don't forget my flatforms are still in my clothset.

As for the question:
Madonna - oh YES oh oui......

Spears what?
Girls who?
You mean Black Eyed Peas restaurant?

saigonhouston


User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4593 times:

Damm, there last hit was 1 year before i was born, yet there still as popular. I was really into them around 10ish onwards, and have just got back into listening cause of hung up.

Abba have some great (and some not so great) tracks, and will be around till i die i think


25 StevenUhl777 : Yes...that's it. I've heard the song over here, and picked up the ABBA track right away, but couldn't think of the song. Erasure did "Abba-esque" and
26 Trekster : OHHHH, THANKS I know what i want for xmas from my dad now. Tickets to see mamma Mia, annoyed i missed it when i went to vegas
27 AirEuropeUK733 : And then the tribute band Bjorn Again did Erasure-ish where they covered a couple (maybe 4) tracks that Erasure had done (incl A Little Respect IIRC)
28 N200WN : Man this is just wild...just when I thought I was the only ABBA fan left on the planet. I also have the Gold CD and now my four year old daughter make
29 Post contains links BCAL : This and many other tracks sung in Spanish are on the ABBA collection which you can get here
30 Tom in NO : So, does that mean that once Super Trouper hit #1, "The Winner..(had) Take(n) It All", and was on the way towards their "Waterloo"??? Tom at MSY
31 Post contains images Capital146 : OK, I am going to show my age now......... I am shocked that Super Truper was ABBA's final UK No.1 (in 1980). I remember my parents buying the album (
32 J_Hallgren : ABBA was and is one of my favorite groups...Given that my heritage is Swedish, I liked the style of music and felt a connection to it...I bought two a
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