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Any Rap Wars Anymore?  
User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

If you recall in the '90's it was East Coast vs. West Coast. Primarily Tupac and Dre. Vs. Notorious BIG. Tupac and Biggie are now dead because of it. Lately you don't hear much of 'wars' going on like they were 10 years ago. Are there any new rivals? I've heard something about Ja Rule vs (I think Jay-Z). But they are as amplified or glorified like Tupac and Biggie were..Any thoughts?


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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1761 times:

Who cares? Rap sucks.

Give me bands who actually play instruments (programming computers is not the same thing), write music with melodies and countermelodies, sing instead of bloviating illiterately into a mike, and who sing about other things than how much of a stud they think they are or how he would like to kill someone.


User currently offlineGunships From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 574 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1758 times:

I didn't care about rap wars in the '90's and, amazingly enough, I don't care about them now.
Self-destructive behavior leads to self-destruction...go figure.


User currently offlineMrmeangenes From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

Yo-yo-yo !
Whass the hap ?
You punk-asses
Be dissin' Rap ?

Don't be dissin'
Me an' mine:
Or you are gonna
Meet my "Nine" !



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User currently offlineYoungFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1723 times:

Well, if you look at what the rap war caused, i think youll understand why the wars nowadays are much more shall i say traquile. Since in the war b/w tupac and Biggy, they both ended up dead, i think that the rap world took a chil pill and decided to be mo' aprreciating and not hatin!
Dan



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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1719 times:

Quoting YoungFlyer (Reply 4):
Well, if you look at what the rap war caused, i think youll understand why the wars nowadays are much more shall i say traquile. Since in the war b/w tupac and Biggy, they both ended up dead, i think that the rap world took a chil pill and decided to be mo' aprreciating and not hatin!

That's what I figured. Just didn't know if I was missing something.



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User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1717 times:

"Rap wars" such as the Biggie vs. Tupac thing are a thing of the past. There are some rivalries between rappers, but it's pretty much limited to taking shots at each other via the media or in their songs. Rappers nowadays realize you can't buy more bling if you're dead. Some of these rivalries include:

Ja Rule vs. the world (or at least Emenem, Dr. Dre., 50 Cent, Busta Rymes, etc.)
The Game vs. 50 Cent (even the two were in the same "crew")
Jay-Z vs. Nas

Quoting Gunships (Reply 2):
I didn't care about rap wars in the '90's and, amazingly enough, I don't care about them now

But you cared enough to post about how much you don't care. Go figure.


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4304 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1714 times:

I think someone in the Rap world should make war on all the over-commercialized 'booty rap' or party-rap groups that are currently dominating. I'm definately an east-coast, alternative rap listener, though I like a few southern rappers (David Banner, Outkast).


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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

David Banner is sick. Him, Mike Jones and Luda are my favorite.


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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1689 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 1):
Who cares? Rap sucks.

Give me bands who actually play instruments (programming computers is not the same thing), write music with melodies and countermelodies, sing instead of bloviating illiterately into a mike, and who sing about other things than how much of a stud they think they are or how he would like to kill someone.



50 Cent is still involved in quite a few rap wars. Mostly with The Game and still Ja Rule. Eminem still fueds with almost anyone who breathes. The fueds are out there but they are not quite as noticible as before. Nas has beef with a lot of people. Go to any music sharing program and search "diss songs" and the latest batch usually show up.


User currently offlineAtco2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 1114 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1685 times:

May I suggest www.gizoogle.com?

Click on the Textilizer and copy some text!

Here's KROC's original post...
'50 Cent is still involved in quite a few rap wars. Mostly with The Game and still Ja Rule. Eminem still fueds with almost anyone who breathes. The fueds are out there but they are not quite as noticible as before. Nas has beef with a lot of people. Go to any music sharing program and search "diss songs" and the latest batch usually show up'

Latest version put through the Textilizer Big grin
50 cent is S-T-to-tha-izzill involved in quite a few rap wars. mostly wit tha game n stiznill ja rule cuz its a doggy dog world. eminem still fueds wit almost anyone who breathes. tha fueds is out there but tizzle aint quite as noticible as before bitch ass gangsta. nas has bizzle wit a lot of people . Put ya mutha fuckin choppers up if ya feel this.. go ta any music shar'n program n search "diss songs" n tha latest bizzay usually show up.

Pretty comical really  Smile



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User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1682 times:

Now that every no-talent hack with a grill and baggy pants can babble into a microphone, rap wars ain't what they used to be. 'Round here, when one turd "busts a cap" in another, it doesn't get investigated very thoroughly. I call those "misdemeanor" murders.

User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1667 times:

The Game vs. 50 Cent?

but I saw at least two video clips where these two fine gentlemen were rapping together? All I remember is that The Game was singing with a terribly jacked mouth, much worse then later, I think.

Kay


User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 1):
Give me bands who actually play instruments (programming computers is not the same thing), write music with melodies and countermelodies

The usual, "Rap isn't music and no talent is necessary" crowd  Yeah sure. People who say this have little exposure to the history and non-mainstream artists that rap about social issues and not violence. Listen to Jurassic 5, Dilated Peoples, even some of the non-mainstream work or Tupac and Nas. They have a lot to say. By the way have you ever heard a real rap battle (and not the kinds shown in 8 Mile)? Not everybody can do that.

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 8):
David Banner is sick. Him, Mike Jones and Luda are my favorite.

I'll give you Ludacris but Banner and Mike Jones?? Maybe like 2-3 good songs between them. I'm not much into all that Crunk music anyway.

About Rap wars, it's mostly gone something like in the past, where artists "keep it on wax" and don't really go any further.



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User currently offlineSoku39 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1797 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1641 times:

Mdsh00, you can try a million times, but people on here (and in real life) still refuse to open their minds up. A Tribe Called Quest, Black Star, (old) Common, Pete Rock and CL Smooth, its all the same to them as Lil Jon.  

Just cause young jeezy is sellin today doesnt mean he will next year, while copys of Illmatic still roll of the shelf 12 years later, that should give people an idea of the difference....

[Edited 2005-11-30 19:48:18]


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User currently offline7FTwinOtter From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1619 times:

I don't wish to sound like a stereotypical backpacker but I've given up caring what peoples perceptions of hip-hop are, I personally think "underground" or "alternative" hip-hop is probably alot better off without people who are closed minded enough to dismiss a huge genre of music based on the perception they have of it gained from MTV etc.

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1613 times:

In one of the "Naked Gun" movies, there is a scene in the background where you hear the clerk talking on a phone and he says something to the effect of "Look Mac, killing a gang member is only a fifteen dollar fine. Just mail it in wouldja?"

If only it were really like that.


User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4681 posts, RR: 47
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1608 times:

Quoting AA61Hvy (Thread starter):
If you recall in the '90's it was East Coast vs. West Coast. Primarily Tupac and Dre. Vs. Notorious BIG. Tupac and Biggie are now dead because of it. Lately you don't hear much of 'wars' going on like they were 10 years ago. Are there any new rivals? I've heard something about Ja Rule vs (I think Jay-Z). But they are as amplified or glorified like Tupac and Biggie were..Any thoughts?

Bought into it hook, line and sinker I see - those deaths do bother me, I still lose sleep over them being gone.

[Edited 2005-11-30 22:28:54]


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User currently offlineSovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2604 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1578 times:
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I like Ludacris as well....he has both entertaining feel good rap and meaningful songs. Tupac was awesome...also Dre's Chronic 2001 album was good but alot of the new rappers SUCK BADLY. Out of all of them maybe only Luda and a couple of others are still good. Kanye West = teh suck that guy's songs are so annoying I can't even believe how somebody can come up with that crap. Also R.Kelly sucks and so does new Jay-z, nelly, 50 cent and eminem. Basically most rappers that used to be good now suck. 50 cent's stuff is really good for clubs and parties though...

User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1550 times:

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 13):
I'm not much into all that Crunk music anyway.

For the over-40 crowd...what is "Crunk"?



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User currently offlineKovi17 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 366 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1543 times:

lol what about fat joe and 50 cent that was pretty funny at some awards show, and how the hell is fat joe popular now i still dont get it. better yet how is rap still popular?


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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1542 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 19):
For the over-40 crowd...what is "Crunk"?

Pretty much what Lil' Jon does. You know, always shouting the same two words, "Whaaaaat?" and "OKAY!!!!"  Silly .

Quoting Kay (Reply 12):
The Game vs. 50 Cent?

but I saw at least two video clips where these two fine gentlemen were rapping together? All I remember is that The Game was singing with a terribly jacked mouth, much worse then later, I think.

They are actually good friends to some extent, with both in G-Unit. I still suspect that their "battle" is still just to increase sales, nothing more.
Personally, I have pretty much overcome my rap-period when I listened quite a lot to Em, Snoop, Busta and all the typical late-90's rap, but nowadays, I hardly listen to modern-day rap (except Xzibit and some Ludacris), but preferrably some old-school rap, like Eazy-E, NWA or the early Dr. Dre (guess that's the influence of GTA:SA  Wink ).


User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1525 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 19):
For the over-40 crowd...what is "Crunk"?

DAL767400 pretty much nailed it. All those club hits that come out of the South are called "Crunk Music"



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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1521 times:

I'm not sure what he meant by using 'Crunk'

He may mean Swisha House/Screwed, which is a southern (primarily East Texas) type of rap.



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