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Beginning Of The End For Man Utd?  
User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6681 posts, RR: 11
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2505 times:

Beaten 2-1 in Benfica, bottom of the group, out of Europe altogether, only Burton Albion in the FA Cup to look forward to.... are the wheels falling off the red machine?


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User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2494 times:

I can think of nothing more satisfying than watch United go out of Europe in that manner. Ferguson's expression at the final whistle was priceless - he looked a shadow of the arrogant, egotistic git of a few seasons ago. It's always fun to watch cry-baby Ronaldo have a useless game and get pulled off the pitch, of course Van Nistelrooy had to have his customary moan at the referee because "I DIDN'T WIN!" and if Ferdinand gets in the England squad this summer I think I'll cry.

It's just incredibly fun watching them lose, with the expressions on their faces saying "but we're UNITED! We can't possibly lose!"

It was a great game of football and a great result. Benfica fully deserved their win. And in answer to your question, yes let's hope the wheels are falling off. Much as I dislike Chelsea, the way they and their manager conduct themselves on and off the pitch, I'd even rather have them as Premiership champions than that bunch of overpaid tools from Salford. As for Europe, I'm just glad United are out.



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

Finally! About bloody time!

Signed,

Everyone else in the EPL except Chelsea.


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2477 times:

Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 1):
I'd even rather have them as Premiership champions than that bunch of overpaid tools from Salford.

Please don't insult Salford. That rabble are in Trafford.

Time for a clear out. Fergie has lost the magic and some of those players don't seem to think they need to do anything for their vast wages. When players just turn up and go through the motions they are surplus to requirements in any team. Be it United or (for example) Burton.

They don't need Glazer to open his chequebook. They need to clear some of the shit out first.


User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 3):
Please don't insult Salford. That rabble are in Trafford.

Haha. Sorry Whitehatter! Also, agreed about the clear-out - if I was Ferguson, out of the door straight away for me would be Ferdinand, Silvestre, Giggs, O'Shea, Fletcher, Saha (he was particularly awful tonight) and maybe even Richardson - he's gone right off the boil. And if I was Glazer, I'd be getting ready to get shot Ferguson as well. Who I'd have to replace him, I don't know - but then, as a City fan, I don't really care.

In fact, put Alan Ball in charge! He'd do a brilliant job!



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User currently offlineSean377 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1225 posts, RR: 41
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2435 times:

Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 1):
I can think of nothing more satisfying than watch United go out of Europe in that manner. Ferguson's expression at the final whistle was priceless - he looked a shadow of the arrogant, egotistic git of a few seasons ago. It's always fun to watch cry-baby Ronaldo have a useless game and get pulled off the pitch, of course Van Nistelrooy had to have his customary moan at the referee because "I DIDN'T WIN!" and if Ferdinand gets in the England squad this summer I think I'll cry.

It's just incredibly fun watching them lose, with the expressions on their faces saying "but we're UNITED! We can't possibly lose!"

It was a great game of football and a great result. Benfica fully deserved their win. And in answer to your question, yes let's hope the wheels are falling off. Much as I dislike Chelsea, the way they and their manager conduct themselves on and off the pitch, I'd even rather have them as Premiership champions than that bunch of overpaid tools from Salford. As for Europe, I'm just glad United are out.

Couldn't have put it better myself!

Didn't see the game as I don't have Sky Sports, but was glued to Sky Sports News for news and reactions. It's always particularly satisfying to see the mugs lose after taking the lead and looking so smug.



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User currently offlineABfemme From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2430 times:

Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 1):
I can think of nothing more satisfying than watch United go out of Europe

Too right - best thing that could have happened

 bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 47
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2422 times:

Well, United haven't performed well in Europe this season, and to be fair didn't deserve to go through to the knock out stage.

Focus now needs to be on winning one of the domestic trophees. The FA Cup would be a nice conselation.

Quoting Oly720man (Thread starter):
bottom of the group

A very close group though. Not that it should be used to defend United. They got the "easiest" of the CL groups, and still couldn't win it. Neither did they manage to score the one extra goal they needed to go through in the remaining 60 minutes against Benfica.

Therefore; I'm disappointed to see United out of the European competition, but not surprised considering how they have performed in the group matches.

Thom@s



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User currently offlineAMSGOT From Sweden, joined Jun 2005, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2416 times:

Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 1):
I can think of nothing more satisfying than watch United go out of Europe in that manner.

I do: I'd rather not have the 'anti-football companies' Chelsea and Real Madrid back after the winter break. Absolutely impossible to call them FC's...



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User currently offlineOYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 78 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2410 times:

What United have to do is buy Thomas Gravesen from Real Madrid.
That would definatly give United some more stability in their midfield.  Smile

Quoting AMSGOT (Reply 8):
Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 1):
I can think of nothing more satisfying than watch United go out of Europe in that manner.

I do: I'd rather not have the 'anti-football companies' Chelsea and Real Madrid back after the winter break. Absolutely impossible to call them FC's...

I couldn't agree more.


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12358 posts, RR: 47
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2410 times:
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I think SAF may be past his "best before" date!

His transfer dealings over the years have been more miss than hit. For every gem he's bought, he's also spent countless £millions on real lemons.

What really made the MU team the first time they won the league title after so long, was all the home grown youth (despite Alan Hansen's infamous quote!) That and a decent goalkeeper.



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User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 47
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 9):
What United have to do is buy Thomas Gravesen from Real Madrid.
That would definatly give United some more stability in their midfield.

So would Gatusso from AC Milan.  Wink

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 10):
His transfer dealings over the years have been more miss than hit.

Yes, recent signings like Ronaldo, Rooney and Van der Sar have been wasted money...  Yeah sure

Thom@s



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User currently onlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3499 posts, RR: 29
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2374 times:

Quoting ABfemme (Reply 6):
Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 1):
I can think of nothing more satisfying than watch United go out of Europe

Too right - best thing that could have happened

So true... I think ManU needs to start all over again. I think their group was the most dull, boring one of all champions leage groups...

On the other hand, Barcelona won yesterday in Udine, even though they already were qualified, thus allowing Bremen to continue... That's real fair play, and both Bremen and Barcelona showed real great football... Altogether I think the right teams continue in the Champions league...


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2366 times:

I can't believe all the clueless posts in this thread.

"Buy so-and-so and pay him huge wages, that'll settle down the midfield" and the like.


ARE YOU BLIND?


They do NOT need to buy ANYONE. They need to clear out the crap first. Buying new players just puts sticking plaster over the deep wounds of not having a motivated team, and those huge salaried players who are not performing need sweeping out first. Only then, once the losers like Ferdinand have been sold on can you start rebuilding, and it will take the removal of Ferguson too to acomplish that. Buying now just means buying players to try and fill the gaps in an underperforming squad.

Sorry Alex, thanks for the memories and all that, but it's time to retire to your horses and booze. I would try and lure Steve McLaren or Big Sam Allardyce down to Old Trafford, although the Glazers might well want to look abroad for their new boss.


User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

I really hope Burton beat them, being a supporter of a fellow conference team. And a Man Utd disliker!


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User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5126 posts, RR: 34
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2347 times:

ive watched a few man utd games recently, and the performance has been dreadful, nothing like previous years flowing football. They used to be a dream to watch, now its more of a nightmare.

Ferguson will be gone in the summer, as will a few players. Giggs, Saha, Smith and Ferdinand will be out, ronaldo might follow if he doesnt learn to pass and stop diving.

Martin O'Neal for the Man Utd job...



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User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 47
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2345 times:

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 15):
Giggs, Saha, Smith and Ferdinand will be out, ronaldo might follow if he doesnt learn to pass and stop diving.

I repectfully and Strongly disagree...

Thom@s



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2343 times:

I have to agree that yesterday's game (and their Champions League games in general) were pretty bad, I expected much more from a team that used to be world-class than the last place in their Champions League group.

Patrick


User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2364 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2326 times:

Best news I've heard in years!

They're following the lead of that other team of overpaid and underperforming losers - New York Yankees, although I do have to be careful what I say about them in family circles due to family ties to the team!

Now if only Wigan could get relegated from Super League in Rugby League, I would be a very happy man!


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2312 times:

Love it - United lose and you have a go at Chelsea.

Nobody likes us. And we dont care.



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User currently offlineCosec59 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2310 times:

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User currently offlineAirEuropeUK733 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 976 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2307 times:

It couldn't have happened to a nicer team  Smile

Can I feel relegation coming on - let's hope so. That'll give the smug gits something to think about!!

AE733



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12358 posts, RR: 47
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2300 times:
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Quoting Thom@s (Reply 11):
Yes, recent signings like Ronaldo, Rooney and Van der Sar have been wasted money...

Rooney I don't dispute. Ronaldo is a trick pony who's never much use when MU are losing a game (like last night). Van der Sar is an OK GK, but not in the top drawer these days. A temporary stop-gap at best.

I'm sure you can supply a list of the lemons as well if you really tried. I'll give you a few to get you started - Veron (cost £28m, sold for £15m 2 years later), Howard, Bellion, Djemba-Djemba, Saha. Feel free to carry on...  sarcastic 



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User currently offlineScallar From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2300 times:

Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 1):
Ferguson's expression at the final whistle was priceless - he looked a shadow of the arrogant, egotistic git of a few seasons ago.

 checkmark 

They had to go sooner or later, because the trophy will end up in Turin and Juve this year.  bigthumbsup 



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User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2287 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 22):
Veron (cost £28m, sold for £15m 2 years later), Howard, Bellion, Djemba-Djemba, Saha. Feel free to carry on...

Klerberson, Bosnich, Van der Gouw, Alan Smith...



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25 LH477 : Finally!....Hate Man U..... Go ARSENAL......
26 Post contains images BHXFAOTIPYYC : No, I wouldn't say that either... but I will say nice job BENFICA !!
27 Post contains images Manc : Come lads we've had this coming for the last few seasons and I'm a season ticket holder at OT, its been a slow decline, OK we're 2nd in the Prem(says
28 Post contains images Cornish : Well if they want to turn things around, a good start would be to stop playing Les Ferdinand in defence
29 AirEuropeUK733 : Look at the other 'great tactician' we had at Fratton Park. Did exactly the same thing 4-4-2 to 4-5-1 and now Pompey are in the bottom 3 and play lik
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