Oly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6193 posts, RR: 11 Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1595 times:
Beaten 2-1 in Benfica, bottom of the group, out of Europe altogether, only Burton Albion in the FA Cup to look forward to.... are the wheels falling off the red machine?
FLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1584 times:
I can think of nothing more satisfying than watch United go out of Europe in that manner. Ferguson's expression at the final whistle was priceless - he looked a shadow of the arrogant, egotistic git of a few seasons ago. It's always fun to watch cry-baby Ronaldo have a useless game and get pulled off the pitch, of course Van Nistelrooy had to have his customary moan at the referee because "I DIDN'T WIN!" and if Ferdinand gets in the England squad this summer I think I'll cry.
It's just incredibly fun watching them lose, with the expressions on their faces saying "but we're UNITED! We can't possibly lose!"
It was a great game of football and a great result. Benfica fully deserved their win. And in answer to your question, yes let's hope the wheels are falling off. Much as I dislike Chelsea, the way they and their manager conduct themselves on and off the pitch, I'd even rather have them as Premiership champions than that bunch of overpaid tools from Salford. As for Europe, I'm just glad United are out.
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1578 times:
WhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1567 times:
Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 1): I'd even rather have them as Premiership champions than that bunch of overpaid tools from Salford.
Please don't insult Salford. That rabble are in Trafford.
Time for a clear out. Fergie has lost the magic and some of those players don't seem to think they need to do anything for their vast wages. When players just turn up and go through the motions they are surplus to requirements in any team. Be it United or (for example) Burton.
They don't need Glazer to open his chequebook. They need to clear some of the shit out first.
FLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1559 times:
Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 3): Please don't insult Salford. That rabble are in Trafford.
Haha. Sorry Whitehatter! Also, agreed about the clear-out - if I was Ferguson, out of the door straight away for me would be Ferdinand, Silvestre, Giggs, O'Shea, Fletcher, Saha (he was particularly awful tonight) and maybe even Richardson - he's gone right off the boil. And if I was Glazer, I'd be getting ready to get shot Ferguson as well. Who I'd have to replace him, I don't know - but then, as a City fan, I don't really care.
In fact, put Alan Ball in charge! He'd do a brilliant job!
Sean377 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1225 posts, RR: 45 Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1525 times:
Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 1): I can think of nothing more satisfying than watch United go out of Europe in that manner. Ferguson's expression at the final whistle was priceless - he looked a shadow of the arrogant, egotistic git of a few seasons ago. It's always fun to watch cry-baby Ronaldo have a useless game and get pulled off the pitch, of course Van Nistelrooy had to have his customary moan at the referee because "I DIDN'T WIN!" and if Ferdinand gets in the England squad this summer I think I'll cry.
It's just incredibly fun watching them lose, with the expressions on their faces saying "but we're UNITED! We can't possibly lose!"
It was a great game of football and a great result. Benfica fully deserved their win. And in answer to your question, yes let's hope the wheels are falling off. Much as I dislike Chelsea, the way they and their manager conduct themselves on and off the pitch, I'd even rather have them as Premiership champions than that bunch of overpaid tools from Salford. As for Europe, I'm just glad United are out.
Couldn't have put it better myself!
Didn't see the game as I don't have Sky Sports, but was glued to Sky Sports News for news and reactions. It's always particularly satisfying to see the mugs lose after taking the lead and looking so smug.
Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man... Landing is the first!
A very close group though. Not that it should be used to defend United. They got the "easiest" of the CL groups, and still couldn't win it. Neither did they manage to score the one extra goal they needed to go through in the remaining 60 minutes against Benfica.
Therefore; I'm disappointed to see United out of the European competition, but not surprised considering how they have performed in the group matches.
Thom@s
"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
AMSGOT From Sweden, joined Jun 2005, 337 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1506 times:
Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 1): I can think of nothing more satisfying than watch United go out of Europe in that manner.
I do: I'd rather not have the 'anti-football companies' Chelsea and Real Madrid back after the winter break. Absolutely impossible to call them FC's...
OYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 77 posts, RR: 16 Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1500 times:
What United have to do is buy Thomas Gravesen from Real Madrid.
That would definatly give United some more stability in their midfield.
Quoting AMSGOT (Reply 8): Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 1):
I can think of nothing more satisfying than watch United go out of Europe in that manner.
I do: I'd rather not have the 'anti-football companies' Chelsea and Real Madrid back after the winter break. Absolutely impossible to call them FC's...
Scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 11363 posts, RR: 50 Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1500 times:
I think SAF may be past his "best before" date!
His transfer dealings over the years have been more miss than hit. For every gem he's bought, he's also spent countless £millions on real lemons.
What really made the MU team the first time they won the league title after so long, was all the home grown youth (despite Alan Hansen's infamous quote!) That and a decent goalkeeper.
Thom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11949 posts, RR: 50 Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1474 times:
Quoting OYRJA (Reply 9): What United have to do is buy Thomas Gravesen from Real Madrid.
That would definatly give United some more stability in their midfield.
So would Gatusso from AC Milan.
Quoting Scbriml (Reply 10): His transfer dealings over the years have been more miss than hit.
Yes, recent signings like Ronaldo, Rooney and Van der Sar have been wasted money...
Thom@s
"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
TheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3347 posts, RR: 30 Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1464 times:
Quoting ABfemme (Reply 6): Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 1):
I can think of nothing more satisfying than watch United go out of Europe
Too right - best thing that could have happened
So true... I think ManU needs to start all over again. I think their group was the most dull, boring one of all champions leage groups...
On the other hand, Barcelona won yesterday in Udine, even though they already were qualified, thus allowing Bremen to continue... That's real fair play, and both Bremen and Barcelona showed real great football... Altogether I think the right teams continue in the Champions league...
WhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1456 times:
I can't believe all the clueless posts in this thread.
"Buy so-and-so and pay him huge wages, that'll settle down the midfield" and the like.
ARE YOU BLIND?
They do NOT need to buy ANYONE. They need to clear out the crap first. Buying new players just puts sticking plaster over the deep wounds of not having a motivated team, and those huge salaried players who are not performing need sweeping out first. Only then, once the losers like Ferdinand have been sold on can you start rebuilding, and it will take the removal of Ferguson too to acomplish that. Buying now just means buying players to try and fill the gaps in an underperforming squad.
Sorry Alex, thanks for the memories and all that, but it's time to retire to your horses and booze. I would try and lure Steve McLaren or Big Sam Allardyce down to Old Trafford, although the Glazers might well want to look abroad for their new boss.
Nighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 4991 posts, RR: 38 Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1437 times:
ive watched a few man utd games recently, and the performance has been dreadful, nothing like previous years flowing football. They used to be a dream to watch, now its more of a nightmare.
Ferguson will be gone in the summer, as will a few players. Giggs, Saha, Smith and Ferdinand will be out, ronaldo might follow if he doesnt learn to pass and stop diving.
Sabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1433 times:
I have to agree that yesterday's game (and their Champions League games in general) were pretty bad, I expected much more from a team that used to be world-class than the last place in their Champions League group.
BigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2358 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1416 times:
Best news I've heard in years!
They're following the lead of that other team of overpaid and underperforming losers - New York Yankees, although I do have to be careful what I say about them in family circles due to family ties to the team!
Now if only Wigan could get relegated from Super League in Rugby League, I would be a very happy man!
CHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 63 Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1402 times:
Love it - United lose and you have a go at Chelsea.
Nobody likes us. And we dont care.
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
AirEuropeUK733 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 12 Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1397 times:
It couldn't have happened to a nicer team
Can I feel relegation coming on - let's hope so. That'll give the smug gits something to think about!!
Scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 11363 posts, RR: 50 Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1390 times:
Quoting Thom@s (Reply 11): Yes, recent signings like Ronaldo, Rooney and Van der Sar have been wasted money...
Rooney I don't dispute. Ronaldo is a trick pony who's never much use when MU are losing a game (like last night). Van der Sar is an OK GK, but not in the top drawer these days. A temporary stop-gap at best.
I'm sure you can supply a list of the lemons as well if you really tried. I'll give you a few to get you started - Veron (cost £28m, sold for £15m 2 years later), Howard, Bellion, Djemba-Djemba, Saha. Feel free to carry on...
Scallar From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 139 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1390 times:
Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 1): Ferguson's expression at the final whistle was priceless - he looked a shadow of the arrogant, egotistic git of a few seasons ago.
They had to go sooner or later, because the trophy will end up in Turin and Juve this year.
FLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1377 times:
Quoting Scbriml (Reply 22): Veron (cost £28m, sold for £15m 2 years later), Howard, Bellion, Djemba-Djemba, Saha. Feel free to carry on...
Klerberson, Bosnich, Van der Gouw, Alan Smith...
Come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away...
25 LH477: Finally!....Hate Man U..... Go ARSENAL......
26 BHXFAOTIPYYC: No, I wouldn't say that either... but I will say nice job BENFICA !!
27 Manc: Come lads we've had this coming for the last few seasons and I'm a season ticket holder at OT, its been a slow decline, OK we're 2nd in the Prem(says
28 Cornish: Well if they want to turn things around, a good start would be to stop playing Les Ferdinand in defence
29 AirEuropeUK733: Look at the other 'great tactician' we had at Fratton Park. Did exactly the same thing 4-4-2 to 4-5-1 and now Pompey are in the bottom 3 and play lik
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