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They Can Run & Hide, But It Won't Help Them...  
User currently offlineThe747Man From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1342 times:

I've heard on CNN that all the Afgans over there are running and preparing for immenent US attack. I've heard people are digging ditches, etc, but I have bad news to bring to you all, it's not gonna help.

I fully support Bush on this. I know George Bush Sr. is going to give his son advice and guidance through this through his experience of Desert Storm. GWB has made it clear that the people who are responsible and their followers will pay for this.

So basically this means that we are planning to bomb the !@#$ out of Afganistan. And I'm damn glad it's happening. They deserve it, it's time to get rid of these damn morons. Laden is the prime suspect, the hijackers are linked to him, and I think he is the asshole who carried this plan out.

The Afganistan government says bin Laden is not responsible for these two reasons:

A. Bin Laden doesn't have pilots
B. There are no flight training facilities in Afganistan

Complete BS! He sent a bunch of idiots to the US to get flight training at US facilities! The FBI has already figured out numerous clues of all this, and it all relates to bin Laden. So, you might as well say goodbye to him, he's running, but I will bet my life that we find him. Laden is going to be with Allah soon, or somewhere else...

Now, I think many innocent women and children will be killed when we attack them and that is horrible, but this happened with NYC as well. How could people be so stupid as to carry out a plan like this against the US and get away with it? So, I would be running my ass off if I were anywhere in Afganistan. It's gonna happen, we know the Bushes here.

So, Afganistanians, you can run and you can hide, but it won't help, .................................sorry.



So, do you think that the US should bomb Afganistan?

I certainly think so, they asked for it, and now they're going to get it.

The US is coming...

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User currently offlineThe747Man From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1287 times:

Might I mention this is my own personal view.

So please share yours!  Smile


User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1282 times:

Personally, I think we should LEVEL Afghanistan..

Chris



Lets do some sexy math. We add you, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1283 times:

Of course tha Taliban claims are ridiculous.

On problem, however, is that many people in Afghanistan don´t identify with them. And most of them certainly aren´t responsible for their lunatic "leader´s" ideas or actions.

If Bin Laden should actually have been behind it (and it looks a lot like there was somebody else closer to the crime), it may get difficult to hit him specifically.

Just one other thought: He was reported to have collaborated with the CIA for years. Probably yet another reason to kill him rather than have him sit on the stand...


User currently offlineEIPremier From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1549 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1283 times:

I don't think we should bomb the #@$#@ out of Afghanistan. We should target the terrorist organizations and the Taliban.

The terrorists responsible for these actions are no doubt already in hiding, so there is really no rush to retaliate. We should take our time to identify targets, and then engage in air strikes.
Basically, I feel we should seek to destroy the terrorist training camps and hunt down as many of the actual terrorists as possible. I also include the Taliban, not only because they apparently harbor many of these terrorists, but also because they are guilty of numerous human rights violations.

The Taliban deserve whatever comes to them. The vast majority of Afghani citizens do not, however. The sad thing about all these extremist governments is that they rule by fear and not by the consent of their people. The Taliban betrayed their people, promising to rebuild the country and instead implementing draconian laws, public executions, racketeering etc...etc... There is no doubt that many, if not most Afghans do not support the Taliban and do not condone the acts of terrorism against the US in any way.


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1277 times:




"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineI Like To Fly From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1188 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1274 times:

B757300, that's funny as hell. Maybe bush should have a T-shirt made with that on it! Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1276 times:








"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineThe747Man From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1273 times:

Exellent B757300!

User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1272 times:

If what I heard on Fox News is correct, then our military operations will be called "Operation Noble Eagle".






"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineAirbus380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

I'm sure some have seen the little bumper sticker with the kid pissing on Ford/Chevy. Well I saw one with white shoe polish showing a kid pissing on Bin Laden. May Bin Laden live in fear for the rest of his life.

User currently offlineBombstar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1264 times:

The people that are trying to flee afganistan are INNOCENT CIVILIANS that DONT WANT TO BE ATTACKED!!
what is wrong with that?


User currently offlineI Like To Fly From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1188 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1259 times:

Bombstar, are you saying the people in NYC were asking to be attacked? I don't care what they think, it was their goverment that suppoted it, they should be blown up!

User currently offlineAirbus380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1256 times:

I Like To Fly I think that this is the first thing I have ever agreed with you about in this forum.

User currently offlineI Like To Fly From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1188 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1253 times:

Airbus380,  Big grin

User currently offlinePHX-LJU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

>>Bombstar, are you saying the people in NYC were asking to be attacked? I don't care what they think, it was their goverment that suppoted it, they should be blown up!

Don't comapre America to the terrorists! This country should never target innocent civilians. America is all about justice and respect of human life. We should never sink to the level of the criminals responsible for Tuesday's attack. I support a tough military response... but one that targets the government in Afganistan, not innocent civilians!

People like "I Like to Fly" and "Airbus380" make me want to throw up. They are just as bad as Bin Laden and McVeigh!


User currently offlineCarioca Canuck From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1231 times:

For all of you who are not old enough to remember, or didn't listen in history class, the targeting of civilians in times of war has taken place over the centuries and the US has been just as involved as every other country.

There's nothing to be ashamed about though.

Civilians and soldiers are the same when it comes to war.....only the clothes are different.

War is horrible......there is no such thing as a sanitized, clinical, precision guided war either.......which is exactly why the free nations of the world should retaliate in a manner that befits the original attack.

It's time America started acting like the most powerful nation of earth for a change too.......I for one can't wait to see the morning glow of the irradiated Afghani countryside after every single human being and building has been obliterated. But I doubt it will happen that way.

THE TIME FOR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS OVER.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

God bless the USA!!!!

And pass the Ammunition.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1223 times:

LISTEN UP!!!!

For people to go around calling for the devastation of an entire country is absolutely evil.

Bomb the fuck out of Afghanistan, and you are killing thousands of innocent people. The goat herders who are barely surviving on subsistence farming, the people in Kabul who are NOT followers of the Taliban, the people fighting against the Taliban who wish to bring peace, human rights and democracy to Afghanistan.

If this saturation bombing does occur, and the lives of innocent civilians are taken, please do not look at me for any sympathy when more American cities are bombed to kingdom come, because you will have it coming!!!

This will also place the American government right up there in the realm of the TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!! Although I am sure the "western" world will find some reason to let the American "terrorists" get away with it. I for one wouldn't....remember....terrorism is needing to be eradicated......not the lives of innocent civilians.

Also, may I ask, why the hell is it only when American lives are taken, that terrorism is all of a sudden needed to be eradicated? We have seen this scourge of humanity been taking place for the last few hundred years and America has done nothing about it in the past!!!

Am I angry about this terrible act last week? Bet your arse I am, but I am also angry about the attitudes of some of the (mostly) American people wishing for the lives of innocent people to be taken!!!


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1220 times:

Aviatsiya:

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Johnny just offer to supply Auzzie troops to the USA to participate in any combat actions that may or may not take place. This was because of the decision to invoke Article 4 of the ANZUS treaty.






OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineJuul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1214 times:

L-188,

Your point being????


User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1206 times:

Yes, L-188. Like Juul asked....what is your point?

Our invokion of the ANZUS treaty is not unconditional either, neither should it be. We will require ALL intelligence data that has been amassed thus far before any action.

And don't get me wrong...if even so much as one American bomb deliberately targets innocent civilians, I will be the first to demand a withdrawal of Australian troops from this action. Furthermore, if Australia is attacked because of any deliberate killing of civilians, I will not hold those attackers responsible as much as what I will hold America responsible.

So L-188....what was your point again?


User currently offlineCarioca Canuck From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1207 times:

Scotty.....

What were the people in the WTC and the Pentagon guilty of ? You make it sound like it's OK for the terorists to do what they did.

You imply that if we bomb Afghanistan/Bin Laden's suspected whereabouts/etc we are going to kill thousands of innocent people.

That's the beauty of war my friend....and why nobody should try to start one.....it's a horrible way to die. Aren't you disgusted by the very thought of it ?

Those people are who are responsible and the country that harbored them are about to find out the same thing as well.

The US should hunt down and murder in cold blood anybody involved with any act of terrorism against their country....just as the free world should start to do.....and we should not stop until the oceans are red with their blood.


User currently offlineJuul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1201 times:

So Carioka,

You want to lower yourself to their level, then?

Of course the people in the WTC or the Pentagon were innocent, but that's hardly the point. If you do the same to them (supposing it WAS Bin Laden who's responsible) and kill ten thousands of civilians, you're just as bad as them! And that has nothing to do with the pursuit of justice. That is ugly revenge. Nothing noble about that!

I think the US should tread VERY carefully in response to this tragedy. Because there is no doubt in my mind that once the first bombs are dropped on Afghanistan, the terrorism will really erupt. Don't think for one second that Bin Laden doesn't have more terror waiting.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1195 times:

Just a though....

You know Hammarabi's(spl?) code came from that part of the world.....

And I think that we know that one rule in it.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
25 Carioca Canuck : Juul..... That's the only way to defeat anybody.....especially terrorists. Total war.....kill every single one who is involved and do not stop until y
26 Aviatsiya : Carioca, my response was in direct relation to "The747Man"'s post, in which he has pretty much said that the complete bombing of Afghanistan is totall
27 Aviatsiya : More for Carioca... we didn't start this war....but we are certainly going to finish it. That's where the morality of our reaction comes into play for
28 PHX-LJU : >>It's time America started acting like the most powerful nation of earth for a change too.......I for one can't wait to see the morning glow of the i
29 Carioca Canuck : PHX-LJU..... Your mentality has to be the same as a terrorist in order to defeat a terrorist. If that's what it takes.....so be it.....it will be unfo
30 PHX-LJU : >>Your mentality has to be the same as a terrorist in order to defeat a terrorist. If that's what it takes.....so be it.....it will be unfortunate tha
31 Aviatsiya : Carioca I would like to address this if I may: The US has been at war with terrorism of some sort for the last 50 years I agree.......maybe now's the
32 Jm-airbus320 : This "war" has been going on a long time, don't think it just started. And even if the US does bomb the Afghans, there has got to be something to reme
33 Carioca Canuck : Scotty..... I would say that ruthlessness can have different levels......both political and military. But since the 4 countries you have listed, to my
34 Post contains images I Like To Fly : B757300, you got anymore of them cartoons? Now would be a good time to post a few.
35 Aviatsiya : Carioca.....(expanding) But since the 4 countries you have listed, to my knowledge anyways, have never attacked the US mainland in such a fashion as T
36 The747Man : The countries in this are either with or without the US in this predicament. Either you're our enemy, or our friend. Pakistan was smart into supportin
37 Juul : Russia? Did I miss something?
38 The747Man : Yes sir you did, I see it on CNN right now, Russia will not support the US.
39 Juul : Hmmmm... better turn on the TV then.
40 Post contains images The747Man :
41 Go Canada! : some of these people should have been on question time in the uk last week(on bbc) were muslims heckled the former us ambassador ladier and slated ame
42 Bryan Becker : there is a point here ppl,you can not support and harbor terrorist,its that simple,and the countries will pay and so will the orgs....of terrorist.Its
43 AgnusBymaster : The US needs to first address terrorism within it's own borders and then worry about retaliation against the Taliban. After all, it appears that we've
44 AgnusBymaster : Don't get me wrong...we should retaliate. But 72 hours from now...that's being a bit hasty. Let's put on more economic pressure before resorting to vi
45 Toady : AgnusBymaster: "Let's focus on what's practical. Protect America first and then play world cop." The coalition currently being formed is NOT for Ameri
46 Go Canada! : The USA will end up fighting with the British.Canada and israel will support, israel will get more sucidice bombs and invade palestine. russia will at
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