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The Apprentice Finale  
User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9371 posts, RR: 26
Posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1700 times:

$5 says he hires Rebecca.


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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1694 times:

1.5mil cadet57 doesnt watch it...  Smile sorry, but i hate that show, well that and all reality shows....


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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1688 times:
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I am thinking he might do something out of the ordinary and actually hire both!


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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9371 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1687 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 2):
I am thinking he might do something out of the ordinary and actually hire both!

i was thinking that myself. after all they keep saying that he has one final surprise.

then in that case i get to keep my $5.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 48
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1682 times:
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Think about it he needs to create a buzz and capture people to watch next year. Also this was the first year he fired 4 people all at once! Last year he did 2 at the same time.


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User currently offlineTanyaluvs2fly From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1678 times:

i'm voting for both of them to be hired.. they both have done very very well. as said he'll probably do something to keep ratings up... he let 2 people go a few times and 4 people at once...


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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9371 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1664 times:

looks like he was considering it. and then Randal blew it. what a team player.


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User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1664 times:

He hired Randal, then asked him if he (Randal) thought he should hire Rebecca as well...and Randal said no, that it's the ApprentiCE and that there should only be one.

User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1658 times:

In the end, I think the better candidate was hired. That said, when the Donald asked Randal if he would have hired Rebecca, and he said, basically, that this is the apprentice, not the apprenti, I think Randal made himself out to be a complete asshole. This is just the sort of thing that makes me hate capitalism. For God's sake, there's room for everyone who's truly qualified, isn't there?

I wish Trump had stood up and changed his mind right then and there and made Randal look like the asshole he is.

If I had won, and Donald asked me that question, especially of such a worthy opponent, I would have said "I'd hire her in a heartbeat."

Fuck Capitalism - it makes assholes of all of us. The purveyors and the consumers.


User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5395 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1656 times:

After seeing that ending, any and all respect I had accumulated for Randall in the course of the season is gone. Both he and Rebecca had to overcome tremendous obstacles and had he made a case for her, I think Trump would have hired both of them. Both were stellar candidates, perhaps the best final 2 since I started watching the series. Had I been Trump, I would have hired both in a heartbeat and not even left the matter up to Randall.


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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9371 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 9):
After seeing that ending, any and all respect I had accumulated for Randall in the course of the season is gone.



Quoting Logan22L (Reply 8):

I wish Trump had stood up and changed his mind right then and there and made Randal look like the asshole he is.

i agree with you both. used to be a Randal fan. not so much anymore. apparently The Apprentice winner from this season will be making an appearance in St. Louis sometime in the next few months. if so, i will have words.



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User currently offlineJ_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

I was thinking another way would have been for Rebecca to become Randal's "apprentice" so he could have gotten the win but she could still be involved.


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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9371 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1619 times:

I wonder if Trump will change his mind and hire her anyway for his development project.

Quoting J_Hallgren (Reply 11):
I was thinking another way would have been for Rebecca to become Randal's "apprentice" so he could have gotten the win but she could still be involved.

Good idea.



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User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 10):
if so, i will have words

Make sure you wear an Abbie Hoffman T-shirt, and flip him the bird for me at least once. Assholes like that need to end up destitute and bereft of what little bit of soul they ever had. Fucking Capitalists. Makes me want to puke blood.


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9371 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1610 times:

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 13):
Make sure you wear an Abbie Hoffman T-shirt, and flip him the bird for me at least once.

Grace Slick would be proud.



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User currently offlineVSLover From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1610 times:

eww.


any godwill i had for randall was gone in a second. i cannot believe he said no to having trump hire rebecca. i mean it was obvious randall was choice #1 and thus THE apprentice and rebecca would have been hired ONLY BECAUSE randall allowed it--which would have done much more for randalls image.

but no, he had to go a be a dick about it all.


User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2743 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1602 times:

I thought rebecca would get it, however I dont fault Randall(sp?) for saying no if he didnt believe she was as capable as him. I actually commend him on having the balls to go against the grain. I also believe he will hire her if he wants to bottom line, Trump is going to take orders from this guy.

User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5613 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1583 times:

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 13):
Make sure you wear an Abbie Hoffman T-shirt, and flip him the bird for me at least once. Assholes like that need to end up destitute and bereft of what little bit of soul they ever had. Fucking Capitalists. Makes me want to puke blood.

Whoa!.. ouch... jeez Logan,

I've seen a lotta of your post, and agreed with 98%... but hold on here.

Capitalism is not what it was when there we fiefdoms and the days of John D. Rockefeller (when they barged in and took your sh*t). It's a bit more just these days but still is about competition. If if we were like Old School Russia and all US carriers were like the old Aeroflot-- bland, no such thing as travellers rights,non-channels for passenger complaints/relations. And inflight service was unspeakable. Now just spread that model to every business concept in America.. what a doldrum/ho hum existence! Capitalism makes life anybody's game. Those that don't have can search and search til that find that nary crevice that breaks them thru... and it makes all the suffering worth while once you get there.

An egalitarian society would be totally ideal.. but the problem is people. When you have too many that have no sense of value, no sense of worth, then it's one to let that society go to hell or go no where, or follow some ass who declares himself 'leader' until he leads them straight off a cliff--when he realizes he had no idea what he was talking about!

Capitalism.. yes it nasty and wicked sometimes, hell most of the time... but it's the best motivator out there--besides sex (that one drives the world and crosses all theological grains!

BN747



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User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1576 times:

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 8):
This is just the sort of thing that makes me hate capitalism

He was being kind of a jerk, but what does this have to do with capitalism? And why all the harsh words in your later post?

Yes, it was kind of shocking when he flat out said "Um, NO" but the guy was entitled to his opinion, and it WAS supposed to be ONE winner, so it's not like he took anything away from anyone.

Jeez, the ANGER!!!  Smile

[Edited 2005-12-16 13:06:37]

User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13602 posts, RR: 61
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1565 times:
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Quoting Logan22L (Reply 8):
I think Randal made himself out to be a complete asshole.

Agreed 100%  bigthumbsup 

Trump got Trumped here. In all the promos, there were promises of a "Big Surprise" - and I have to believe Trump fully intended to hire both Randal and Rebecca all along. Randal is brilliant and has great educational credentials, but doesn't always make the right choices. Rebecca lacks Randal's business experience, yet works well under pressure and generally makes the right choices.

They complement each other VERY well, and would make an ideal team.

Trump's game plan of course was to do exactly what he did - choose the clearly superior of the two, but knowing it would be a big buzz-creator for next season and also give Trump a lot of publicity (TWO Apprentices instead of one! Now THERE'S a story!), he would pick Randal and then ask him what his thoughts were on hiring Rebecca. An obviously elated Randal, already overcome with feelings of accomplishment and gratitude would CLEARLY opt for the "happy ending" knowing they'd be working on separate projects and choose to share in his win.

Right?

You could tell Trump was not really happy with Randal's reaction. (And while I'm at it - Apprenti, Randal? I thought you were the smart one?) Trump clearly expected Randal to take Rebecca on, and had to save face by not publicly countermanding someone he had just been praising only 90 seconds earlier.

Randal could have made the right choice here, yet he chose to be selfish at precisely the WORST possible time. Look for him to be the "Apprentice with the asterisk next to his name" as time goes on.



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User currently offlineCasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4626 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Yeah, Randal totally flushed my opinion of him right in those last 10 minutes.
I was totally on board with the idea till he turned self promoting asshole at the end



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User currently offlineYooYoo From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 6057 posts, RR: 50
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1555 times:

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 8):
I think Randal made himself out to be a complete asshole

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Quoting Logan22L (Reply 8):
I wish Trump had stood up and changed his mind right then and there and made Randal look like the asshole he is.

The problem with live TV. Trump ain't all the quick upstairs.



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User currently offlineBobster2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1540 times:

I think it will work out better for Rebecca this way. Randal's decision to turn an ordinary loser into a "victim" will get her tons of free publicity and sympathy. She'll be remembered long after Randal is forgotten.

Trump did this stunt to boost ratings, both for the next season and the reruns of this one.

Trump was evil. He encouraged Randal to either lie in front the whole world by picking somebody he clearly didn't want to hire, or shoot himself in the foot in front of the whole world so his future employees will hate him right off the bat.


User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1533 times:

Quoting 767Lover (Reply 18):
He was being kind of a jerk, but what does this have to do with capitalism?

The cut-throat drive that Randal displayed came oozing very nastily out. It was Capitalism that bred this drive in him. The thought that "I can get all of this for me."

Quoting 767Lover (Reply 18):
and it WAS supposed to be ONE winner, so it's not like he took anything away from anyone

Understood, but I think what Trump was really after was "if she's so good, do you think we can work her into this situation as well?" Not, "should I have picked her instead of you?" My goal in life is to do the best job possible, using all the tools available. Rebecca would be a great team player. Randal doesn't care about that, he wants it all for himself. Capitalism breeds this type of thinking, IMO. (And no, not in everyone, I understand).


User currently offlineDaedaeg From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1522 times:

I think Randall did the absolute right thing. The fact is he didn't believe Rebecca was qualified for the projects Trump laid out. He stated this during the final interview. If Trump wanted to hire Rebecca, he would have hired her. Randall my have came across a bit harsh, but I think he needed to in order not to look too nicey nice. Trump likes tough guys.


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25 VSLover : and rebecca has shown herself to be a tough guy. i still cannot get over the fact she is only 23! she is extraordinarily professional for a 23yo. if i
26 Luv2fly : For what it is worth this was my last season of watching! This totally ruined it for me. And yes Rebecca will get more out of this than Randal! When
27 767Lover : You think this never happened in the Soviet-era (Communist) system? Actually it was MORE likely to happen (and did happen) in that system because lim
28 Logan22L : I'm sure it did. I'm more of the Socialist type.
29 BN747 : That may very well be your YHO... but it's false. Business circles can't breed what's already there. Gather any group of five humans and you'll find
30 Logan22L : I'll go along with that, but Trump is a Capitalist, and his show is a capitalistic venture, so the competition he created brought out the two-faced b
31 Xpat : I thought Randal displayed such class and poise...until the very last moment. What a selfish thing for him to do. Did he, perhaps, perceive Rebecca as
32 Oneworldman : After hearing Randalls answer to Donald, my initial thoughts mirrored the majority opinion here. Then I got to thinking, why should Randall share his
33 Iflyatldl : Any respect I had for Randall totally went out the window when he went into his dissertation about how great he was, about how it was " The Apprentice
34 767Lover : Apples and Oranges. The human traits of greed, egotism and competition have been around since the dawn of time! Capitalism may bring some of it out,
35 767Lover : I'm just waiting for race to be brought up as an issue (external from here).
36 Logan22L : Capitalism is the reason that show exists in the first place, so, yes it is. The piece of the pie that only a Capitalist such as Trump could offer br
37 767Lover : Well of course, it is the show that caused Randal to be posed the moral question in the first place. However, your assertion is that capitalism is wh
38 Post contains images Logan22L : Depends on what Becky looks like.
39 BN747 : Boy... one word of advice... WHATEVER you do in life... don't ever get caught up into the film/tv or music business! What you'll witness there will m
40 Logan22L : I've been in the music business off and on for about 10 years - part time. Let's just say, I've left it behind for the most part. No, but these scena
41 Stlgph : Wow, just a little thread I started has turned into quite the conversation piece about capitalism. Just a bit of thanks to those who have participated
42 Gigneil : The finale was the product of a failure on behalf of the producers to predict what Randal would do. The producers wanted both a black man and a woman.
43 Dash8King : He spent ten minutes knocking her down and saying how inexperienced she was so he could get the job, then after he gets it he's supposed to say that s
44 Luv2fly : Balls and $1.50 will get you a cup of coffee! He shot himself in the foot, BIG time. No one at the Trump company is going to be comfortable working w
45 Logan22L : First of all, it's Randal. Second of all, it takes no balls whatsoever to vehemently deny that someone is as good as (or even better than) oneself. I
46 BN747 : And understandably so! Trust me... I know about that scene.. Two words... United Way. A wide-know Charity organization that's known for doing tons of
47 777236ER : Actually, evolution breeds this type of thinking. It's call survival of the fittest.
48 J_Hallgren : This says what I was thinking, but in much better way! But he didn't do it so he became a jerk, IMHO.
49 Gatorman96 : Come on!!! It is all scripted..."Reality" TV is the worst
50 EA CO AS : If it had been scripted I sincerely doubt Randal would have said "Apprenti" instead of the correct plural, "Apprentices." Randal went in a direction n
51 Logan22L : Bull. There is an entire horizon of difference between survival and greed. The two words hardly belong in the same sentence.
52 Gamps : Randal and Trump were on Today's show and Randal hit the nail on head when asked the same question. His question was consider the win as gold medal. H
53 Gigneil : Good for her. She did an amazing job at the Yahoo event. N
54 Post contains links 767Lover : Told ya: (From http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10496026/) Many think race was a factor: Randal is Trump's first African-American "Apprentice," and some thoug
55 777236ER : There's no difference between survival and greed. Competition is everything. For you to blame his actions on capitalism seems to be just an excuse fo
56 767Lover : I kept thinking the same thing.
57 Logan22L : That may be the single most ridiculous statement ever uttered on A.net. Congratulations. Spoken like true Capitalists.
58 Post contains images EA CO AS : I finally figured it out - Randal's a die-hard Star Wars fan and like the Sith Lords, believes there should only be two at any one time - a Master, an
59 Soylentgreen : I would guess that Randall was given some breaks in his life. Too bad he did not reciprocate. And...that red handkerchief looked stupid. No New Yorker
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