Sponsor Message:
Non Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
New York City Transit Strike  
User currently offlineRAMPRAT980 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 600 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2284 times:

Workers of the New York City Metropolitan Transit Authority(MTA) are currently on strike. The union leadership(TWU local 100) has done something that all the other municipal unions were afraid to do and that is STRIKE. You see in the late 1960's or early 70's NYC went to court and had a law enacted called the "Taylor Law" which says that if any NYC union goes on strike the union is fined daily and its members are fined 2x their daily pay for each day on strike. This law totally one sided which essentially gives the city of NY all the power when it comes to contract negations. This is why many unions settle contracts two to three years after their last contract expired. Giving in to some of the city's ridiculous demands. The city can drag its feet making unreasonable demands while the city unions are demanding action. There have been many years of zero pay raises for many NYC employees, especially the police officers & firefighters. To Roger Toussiant the president of the TWU local 100, "Bravo to you for standing up to the city bureaucrats and those MTA directors who use Gestapo tacticts harassing the hard working MTA employees". Its about time that someone stand up to them.


With gun control there can be no democracy.. With gun control there can be no Freedom
36 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineVSLover From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2268 times:

all i can say is thankgod i dont work in the city anymore!

it would have taken me 45min-1hr to walk from my place in soho to my office in times square, which isnt an issue but its like 25 degrees there this morning.


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

I still plan to go into the city Friday, and this doesn't effect me one bit. I had originally planned to walk everywhere, and the only public transportation I will be taking is NJ Transit. I do feel sorry for all those commuters, though, who are trying to get to work today and the rest of the week.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineRoger136913 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

___

Associated Press writers David B. Caruso, Verena Dobnik, Samantha Gross and Sara Kugler contributed to this report




The union said the latest MTA offer included annual raises of 3 percent, 4 percent and 3.5 percent; the previous proposal included 3 percent raises each year. MTA workers typically earn from $35,000 as a starting salary to about $55,000 annually.

Toussaint said the union wanted a better offer from the MTA, especially when the agency has a $1 billion surplus this year.

"With a $1 billion surplus, this contract between the MTA and the Transport Workers Union should have been a no-brainer," Toussaint said. "Sadly, that has not been the case."

A key issue was the MTA's proposal to raise the age at which new employees become eligible for a full pension from 55 to 62, which the union says is unfair. The MTA later agreed to allow pension eligibility at 55 for new employees, but asked that they contribute 6 percent of their salaries for their first 10 years of employment.

The down-to-the-wire negotiations came as workers at two private bus lines in Queens walked off the job, a move meant to step up pressure on the MTA.

The contract expired Friday at midnight, but the two sides agreed to keep talking through the weekend and the union set a new deadline for Tuesday.

Commuter frustration was evident both before the strike and after it was called.

"Enough is enough," said Craig DeRosa, who relies on the subway to get to work. "Their benefits are as rich as you see anywhere in this country and they are still complaining. I don't get it."


Well seeing they would have had raises, they City was not being cheap. Yea I know it's not cheap to live in NYC, but if you chose to live there tuff luck.

Have to love the demands od the Union, and there 'If we don't get what we want we walk" atitude. I say screw the workers and don't give in. Nice they waited for the Holidays to strike!!!!!


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21801 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2238 times:

Quoting Roger136913 (Reply 3):
Have to love the demands od the Union, and there 'If we don't get what we want we walk" atitude.

IIRC, they've been struggling with this contract for a while now, and they almost went on strike several times in the past but decided not to in the 11th hour. This could be the point where it gets pushed too far.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineSoylentgreen From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 245 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2236 times:

Daily News says average MTA worker TAKES 16 sick days per year. My boss would say "Bye Bye" to me after five!

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17786 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

Quoting Roger136913 (Reply 3):
"With a $1 billion surplus, this contract between the MTA and the Transport Workers Union should have been a no-brainer," Toussaint said. "Sadly, that has not been the case."

Of course they would have given it all back easily and without issue should it have been a 1 billion deficit.  Yeah sure



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineRoger136913 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2220 times:

Quoting Soylentgreen (Reply 5):
Daily News says average MTA worker TAKES 16 sick days per year. My boss would say "Bye Bye" to me after five!

I agree 100%, most civil service workers would never make it in the private industry. Seeing my Wife works for the City, her Union does nothing but collect the Union dues. I see people who work for the City do crap and expect everything in return. I am not saying all Union workers are like this but alot of them are. Unions may have been at one time, but I don't think in todays world they do anything..


User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3991 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2199 times:

Im glad I don't work or have to drive to New York City (I live in Suffolk County)! Because of the strike they are saying you need at least 4 people in a car to drive in lower Manhattan (below 96th street) between 5am and 11am. And you have to have at least 4 people in the car to use the Brooklyn-Battery tunnel, Manhattan bridge, Brooklyn bridge, Williamsburg bridge, Queens-Midtown tunnel, Queensboro bridge, Lincoln tunnel, and the Holland tunnel betwwen 5am and 11am.

The same HOV rules apply to vehicles traveling toward Manhattan on the Henry Hudson Parkway, the FDR Drive, the Bruckner Experessway, parts of the LIE, the Belt Parkway, the Gowanus Expressway, the BQE and the Prospect Expressway.

I think these same HOV rules will be applied to the evening rush hour also.



Don't give up don't ever give up - Jim Valvano
User currently offlineAPFPilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2176 times:

Wow, and I thought that the NW Union were assholes, these guys weren't even getting a paycut.... I wish bloomberg would pull a Reagan and can them all...(even though I don't agree with the PATCO firings)

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17786 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2174 times:

Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 9):
I wish bloomberg would pull a Reagan and can them all...

I'll second that.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

You know, people get so uptight about events like this. Personally, I love a bit of chaos every now and then.

Whenever it snows here in the UK there's anarchy. Trains, roads and airports all grind to a halt, we see images of 50-mile long queues on the M6, the press have giant "IT SNOW JOKE!" and "WINTER CHAOS!" headlines, it's fantastic! Everyone needs a bit of excitement every now and then, enjoy it!


User currently offlineAPFPilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2165 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 11):
You know, people get so uptight about events like this. Personally, I love a bit of chaos every now and then.

Whenever it snows here in the UK there's anarchy. Trains, roads and airports all grind to a halt, we see images of 50-mile long queues on the M6, the press have giant "IT SNOW JOKE!" and "WINTER CHAOS!" headlines, it's fantastic! Everyone needs a bit of excitement every now and then, enjoy it!

you are joking right?


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2151 times:

Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 12):
you are joking right?

Not at all. Some of the best days I've had have been when the normal routine has been disrupted. Whether it's at school, university or work, disruption is fun. Of course, you can spend your life very very stuck up and go around saying things like "Wow, and I thought that the NW Union were assholes, these guys weren't even getting a paycut.... I wish bloomberg would pull a Reagan and can them all...(even though I don't agree with the PATCO firings)", but then life would be pretty boring, wouldn't it?


User currently offlineVH-KCT* From Australia, joined May 2001, 479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2143 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 13):
disruption is fun.

It is! How many people get stuck in a traffic jam, then never tell anybody? Of course not! They brag to everybody they know about it.

People who walked to work today will be talking about this for months, saying "I walked to work on that day, it took me 4 hours!"

A few years ago, we had a gas shortage in Melbourne. All houses were banned from using gas for weeks, and it was the best time ever! It's strange things like that, things that you never imagine could happen, that make life interesting. It's just that people don't seem to be able to take a step back and see that for themselves; they'd much rather get outraged.



I am The Stig
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21801 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2137 times:

I haven't noticed anything different today. Midtown traffic still sucks, people are still out and about. New York tends to take these things in stride.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineStuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

I sure do like these wide-open spaces in West Texas! I really feel sorry for those that are crammed in NYC with no way to get around without having to go out and find 3 human beings to use for ballast!

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21801 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 16):
I sure do like these wide-open spaces in West Texas! I really feel sorry for those that are crammed in NYC with no way to get around without having to go out and find 3 human beings to use for ballast!

I'd rather live in New York (even with a transit strike) than in Texas any day. In fact, I'm pretty sure I'd be driven crazy living in Texas (and that has almost nothing to do with political orientation).

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineLevg79 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 995 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2100 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 10):
Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 9):
I wish bloomberg would pull a Reagan and can them all...

I'll second that.

That, considering they have thousands of people who passed the exam and want to work for MTA.

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 11):
Whenever it snows here in the UK there's anarchy. Trains, roads and airports all grind to a halt, we see images of 50-mile long queues on the M6, the press have giant "IT SNOW JOKE!" and "WINTER CHAOS!" headlines, it's fantastic! Everyone needs a bit of excitement every now and then, enjoy it!

That sounds just like NYC. Too bad there wasn't any snow today  Sad

Leo.



A mile of runway takes you to the world. A mile of highway takes you a mile.
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2096 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 11):
Everyone needs a bit of excitement every now and then, enjoy it!

Haha, I actually agree with you. It will be interesting to go into the city and see what it's like during the strike. I still remember also the time I took a PATH train out of Manhattan 30 minutes before the major power outage a while back. That would have been an experience.  Smile

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2064 times:

I just flew in yesterday.. I think this really sucks, cause i like to maximise the use of my time in NYC. The MTA people need to calm the hell down, they make a considerable amount of money in my opinion. and cannot be compared to FDNY and NYPD as they would like to. It just isnt the same. Now get back into your buses and trains and lets get the show on the road already.

OK someone, hate on me cuase i think i am upset and don't really know the issue at hand.. Enlighten me please...



There is something special about planes....
User currently offlineLevg79 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 995 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2049 times:

Captaink, I think you got it all .... right! This is really how it is. There was a story on NY1 news about a construction worker from the Bronx who got fired 5 days before X-mas because he couldn't get to his job in Manhattan. I was supposed to have final exams this week but they're now postponed to mid-January. All my vacation plans have been ruined because of the strike. That also makes me upset so I'm with you on that.

I feel sorry for all the tourists who got stuck in this city. Being one of the largest cities in the US, I think it should have a more dependable transportation system instead of this joke of an MTA. By the way, it would be much easier if it would be privatized IMO.

Leo.



A mile of runway takes you to the world. A mile of highway takes you a mile.
User currently offlineF9Widebody From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1604 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2048 times:

Quoting RAMPRAT980 (Thread starter):
Giving in to some of the city's ridiculous demands. The city can drag its feet making unreasonable demands while the city unions are demanding action.

I'm gonna go with my psychic powers and say you are a member of a union?

[Edited 2005-12-21 04:35:59]


YES URLS in signature!!!
User currently offlineMsllsmith From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 396 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2046 times:

Listen, once you're in Manhattan it's 20 blocks to a mile. No big deal.

I had a great time in the last transit strike. We finally had shades of Amsterdam.... a lot of bikes. I think a little zen walk, get to know the other folks, get your muscles warmed up, hit your stride... and like the guy earlier on from Australia (?) said, you end up with great stories to tell the kids. You share rides in taxis with people you'ld never have met otherwise.

However, I just called my kid in Brooklyn. He's a carpenter. He had a whole different take on it. They just called off work today. No work. No $$$.

So maybe, so much for romance.....but I think he's just (aside from lost $$$) being very cranky. In fact I think I'll get off here and get him back on the phone and give him hell. I taught him kamikaze bike riding. I taught him to ride over the Williamsburg Bridge and smile when he hit those sh*tty bumps......Where does he get off complaining!!!!!!

I'm so outa' here.



There's nothing more beautiful than flying into the dawn.
User currently offlineIRelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1073 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1996 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 11):

Whenever it snows here in the UK there's anarchy. Trains, roads and airports all grind to a halt, we see images of 50-mile long queues on the M6, the press have giant "IT SNOW JOKE!" and "WINTER CHAOS!" headlines, it's fantastic! Everyone needs a bit of excitement every now and then, enjoy it!

I'll do you one better. Here in San Diego (it never snows) whenever it rains, even a sprinkle, there is mass chaos. The news reports "Stormwatch 20XX" and all heck breaks loose on the freeways as there are like 4x the number of accidents. It is so ridiculous it is funny, but a bit sad.

-IR


25 RAMPRAT980 : Retired city worker. Its not that I am pro union. I've worked for 20 years for the city and I along with many of my co-workers have recieved 0% pay r
26 TAM1079 : For what these MTA workers put up with on a daily basis...BRAVO!!! They don't get paid nearly enough. First off they carry passengers...peoples lives
27 Jake056 : The tide of public opinion is NOT with the union. What they are doing is illegal. The outcome isn't going to be pretty for the Transit Workers Union.
28 AA61Hvy : I'll be in the city this time next week, this outta be interesting
29 VSLover : well bloomberg has ZERO authority over the MTA. the MTA reports to governor pataki, and i can say i'll be one of the first people passing out flyers i
30 Msllsmith : Well, it should be over way before then. I made a tongue in cheek reply earlier, but it's devastating the NY (retailing) economy at it's most importa
31 Mrocktor : That's cause your previous employer could legaly steal from the rest of the population in order to pay for your perks. Your current employer has to a
32 TWFirst : Toussiant needs to go back to the Haitian mud hut he came from... he's obviously lost perspective. He said yesterday this strike is all about the MTA
33 MaverickM11 : I think they actually have LESS support than the Northwest AMFA morons...and that' saying a lot.
34 RAMPRAT980 : All of the above through my union dues. Medical plan, anuities and whatever else, yes the city had to rob from the rest of the population. But after
35 Post contains images RAMPRAT980 : Well the transit strke is officially over. Who won ? Let's leave that up to the spin doctors on both sides. I have to say that during the strike every
36 Captaink : Well I hope the solve everything, we are back on by 8pm tonight.. YEAH.. let the fun begin.
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
New York City Hotels? posted Sun Sep 10 2006 18:49:49 by Lorenz
Getting Around In New York City Question posted Fri May 12 2006 00:24:36 by Cmk10
Splitting New York City And New York (State) posted Fri Mar 24 2006 17:29:50 by Derico
Off To New York City Tomorrow posted Sat Nov 12 2005 07:25:12 by MSYtristar
Best Food In New York City? posted Fri Aug 12 2005 01:38:06 by Texan
New York City posted Tue May 17 2005 22:17:24 by AA767400
New York City Travel Questions posted Wed Mar 9 2005 01:40:47 by Vulindlela
Anyone In New York City Next Sunday (8/22)? posted Sun Jun 15 2003 22:11:48 by Sabena332
New York City Council Opposes War posted Thu Mar 13 2003 16:44:21 by HUS9746
New York City As The 51st State? posted Fri Feb 7 2003 05:27:56 by I LOVE EWR