AirworldA320 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 316 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 977 times:
One of the trains (6S87) under my charge came to grief at Skipton today, the last three wagons (HTA http://web.ukonline.co.uk/wagons/1001-1100/310506.jpg three of these) handbrakes were left on(BTW it is the white wheel on the RH side), all the way from Gascoigne Wood (approx 40 miles distance) totally destroyed the brake blocks (down to the calipers!!!) and wore one inch of the metal off the wheels, according to the driver he only had to go maybe 10 more miles before he derailed!! fortunately a Northern Rail (Skipton-Leeds service) driver spotted that there were heavy sparks coming from the rear of the train and he informed me!!!.Got the train stopped straight away!!(TFSPhoto, RODOL, BMIFlyer your opinions plz!!!)
StuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 941 times:
Yeah, OK, those are a little over 3,000hp (2,500kw) each so it probably wouldn't have provided a hugely noticable amount of drag for the engineer. Must have been a helluva fireworks show!
We have very large freight trains that pass through here with three to five 6,000hp engines pulling 100 or more railcars, each railcar up to 250,000lb. It's quite interesting when they are going 60 mph and the bearings are seized on an axle! They just converted the rails out here to continuous welded rail so there's no more "click-clock" as the wheels go over the joints in the rails.
AirworldA320 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 316 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 936 times:
Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 3): Yeah, OK, those are a little over 3,000hp (2,500kw) each so it probably wouldn't have provided a hugely noticable amount of drag for the engineer. Must have been a helluva fireworks show!
We have very large freight trains that pass through here with three to five 6,000hp engines pulling 100 or more railcars, each railcar up to 250,000lb. It's quite interesting when they are going 60 mph and the bearings are seized on an axle! They just converted the rails out here to continuous welded rail so there's no more "click-clock" as the wheels go over the joints in the rails.
Belive it or not StuckinMAF it was only 21 wagon (cars) long!!!! and the driver (engineer) says that he did not feel a thing!!!!(BTW 100 cars is a dream in this country!!!)
Oh I forgot, PROPER power boxes have more than one workstation!
Incidentally, it looks as though we are getting this 'point and click', so it'll all stay on one workstation-all the way to Crewe! -that'll be a shock to the system in March!
As for the '6' - still call it that although it's obviously not sent on a block-bell!
Traindriver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 847 times:
Sounds like somebody is going to get in hot water over
that. Prior to leaving the yard, either the conductor or
brakeman is supposed to walk the train checking first
that the brakes have been applied. They signal the
engineer to release the brakes, then walk the consist
and check that all brakes, both air and hand brakes
are released. I'm surprised that the engineer didn't feel
the drag since he only had a 21 car consist.
Usually, when a train is laid up in a yard, you are supposed
to apply two sets of hand brakes on each end of the train.
That should have been one of the first things the train
crew checked for. I guessing somebody didn't do their job.
TFSPhoto From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 793 times:
Quoting RODOL (Reply 7): The Tart from Scunthorpe was probably driving it - was he a bit E-Lew-Sive on the phone!
You cheecky sod.. time to dig out the EWS guide to pissing signallers off again! Perpare for hell my friend..
On the subject though the HTA's braking components are utter shite anyway they wear down so fast, especially when the alter brake is left on, as in the case im taking it as they were fully applied.. in that case most depots, especially round here with a massive coal industry we have our own crews that check the train prior to departure, Our trains are never left overnight attached to HTA's around here because of a massive problem with kids they think its cool to start cutting holes in air pipes and so on.. b£"%$$d's.
I hauled consist of 17 HTA's upto Selby from Immingham earlier in the year and kids had been on the tracks overnight and left one of the alter-brakes semi engaged and that wore the brakes down and caused a problem, luckily i noticed this myself and stopped over in Doncaster sidings and walked the 4 miles to the rear of the train and dis-engaged it myself and continue'd on.. the wagon was taken off at Selby and taken out of service... and nothing else was said, to me anyway..
Quoting AirworldA320 (Thread starter): Northern Rail (Skipton-Leeds service) driver spotted that there were heavy sparks coming from the rear of the train and he informed me!!!.Got the train stopped straight away!!(
TFSPhoto From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks ago) and read 691 times:
Quoting Humberside (Reply 16): Haven't GB Railfreight just launched a multi-user train on that route
GBRf are doing something like that yes, but i dont think its doncaster it finished at, i think its the intermodal depot just the south side of leeds, and its a daily route with the 66's.
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