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Spending Xmas Alone? Family Wants Gay Free Xmas  
User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

My family has decided to have a Gay Free holiday this year after recently coming out to them (sort of). I just returned from my Christmas vacation that started yesterday. My family teamed up and told me exactly what they think of me and my so-called "lifestyle." Well, my mom and sister didn't, but the rest of the family did.

They told me I was going down a "dead-end" road and that everyone they knew that was gay has died of AIDS. That I was sure to get it, and what I was doing just wasn't "natural." She said that I had lied to her about my being gay. Which admittedly, I did. Then she claimed to know all about being gay because they just finished up a series of sermons at her church about how people can overcome being gay by the grace of God. And that to live in the lifestyle was sinful.

It was hard not to raise my voice when I was talking to them. And I did raise my voice.

My grandmother expressed that she was "shocked" by my life choice. She said she was ashamed because "You have so much talent and things going for you, then you decide to be like this. To ME, you aren't Philip anymore."

So I packed up my bags and returned home.

This will be my first Christmas alone, and feeling a little depressed.

Anyone else gone through this family/gay Christmas thing?

UAL

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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40076 posts, RR: 74
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4576 times:

UAL747:
Sorry to hear about this dilema with your family.
No need to worry. I am sure there are plenty of gay members here that would love to take you in for Christmas and bend over
backwards for you this Christmas.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4563 times:

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):

They told me I was going down a "dead-end" road and that everyone they knew that was gay has died of AIDS.

Just write up your own obituary and send it to them. Inflate your contributions to society and belittle the others.

While you're at it, send the text from the Bible that talks about how eating pork is a sin. Send it along with a nice ham.

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
She said that I had lied to her about my being gay.

Who is she? I'm presuming this is grandmother.



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User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4558 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 2):
While you're at it, send the text from the Bible that talks about how eating pork is a sin. Send it along with a nice ham.

Yeah, they are having ham.

Quoting STLGph (Reply 2):
Who is she? I'm presuming this is grandmother.

Yes.

UAL


User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1560 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4554 times:

UAL747-

I am so sorry to hear about the way your family treated you! That was truly a horrible thing to do to a person! I cant imagine what you must have been feeling at that moment.
Well, you know that the majority of us are here for you if you need to cyber talk. Take care Phil and hopefully the rest of your family will come around and realize you are the same person they have always known. How long has it been since grandma found out?

SWA TPA



I believe I can fly.....
User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4545 times:

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 3):
Yeah, they are having ham.

BINGO!

Old Testament Book of Leviticus



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40076 posts, RR: 74
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4539 times:

UAL747:
Sorry if I came off taking this lightly but I do know that this sort of stuff happens.
They're going to realize what a big mistake they are making and I sure Christmas without you there would be a bit incomplete.
Eventually they'll come around and you can spend the holidays with them and your lover can be there with you.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4530 times:

And they'll probably just say "oh some parts of the bible are old and outdated." Seriously though once you send them that passage from the bible you will have effectively nailed them to a wall.

User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4519 times:

if your family says that about you then your alot better than them.. donts it around on here all day get out their get a Boyfriend and make a real success of yourself and show that sexuality really has nothing to do with what path you'll take in your life

sorry to hear bout it but youve just gotta rise above them

p.s good luck with the future

rgds james



You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4514 times:

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 7):
And they'll probably just say "oh some parts of the bible are old and outdated." Seriously though once you send them that passage from the bible you will have effectively nailed them to a wall.

If they wanna talk new testament only...

1 Corinthians 6:9-10,

Luke 16:18

Very convenient if any of them have friends (or they themselves) that have been divorced or remarried.



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User currently offlineMaury From United States of America, joined May 2005, 532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4509 times:

Wow. There's yer love and charity on full display eh? Tolerance too. Nice folks.

My (dyke) roommate and I stopped trying to recreate Norman Rockwell paintings a while back, and now have dinner at whatever nice restaurant is open on the 25th with whatever friends are in like situations. It's usually a lot nicer to be around people who choose to be with you, than not. C'mon down to San Jose!


User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4501 times:

You know, I guess I just don't get it. I mean, who cares if I'm gay or not? I mean, what, does that make me a Klingon? It's so weird what things happen when you mention yourself and gay in the same sentence. Crazy.

Oh, yeah, I forgot, they still can't say the word "gay" without whispering. They did that several times today. "Why didn't you tell us you were ))))gay((((*

*denoting whispering...


UAL


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4498 times:

This is really one of those times where you can't be a salad buffet christian.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4491 times:

C'Mon up to Prudhoe Bay . . . I'll be working . . . but you can watch.  wink  I don't give a hoot in hell if you're Gay or not! I'll still break bread with ya, and we can talk shit about narrow minded people. Might not be family, but I'm pretty danged friendly!

Chin up - this too shall pass . . . .


User currently offlineTheCoz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4477 times:

Well, I'm sure Jesus would approve of your familiy's actions.  

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
Then she claimed to know all about being gay because they just finished up a series of sermons at her church about how people can overcome being gay by the grace of God.

LMAO, yes, an hour long sermon by a heterosexual will tell you EVERYTHING you need to know about the evil gay people.

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
And that to live in the lifestyle was sinful.

So is theirs; a sin is a sin. Everyone is a sinner.

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
It was hard not to raise my voice when I was talking to them. And I did raise my voice.


Hang in there UAL, there are many people who understand you better than your family does. Realize that your family's shortcomings have caused this to happen; not your gay lifestyle.

[Edited 2005-12-20 23:10:41]

User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4476 times:

What a bunch of crap. UAL747, I am so sorry you have to deal with this. How awful. How can they reject you for being you? I mean, you've always been this person. It's not like all of a sudden you changed.

Damn. Well, try to have a reasonable holiday.



But that was when I ruled the world
User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4466 times:

Well, since you are feeling the effects of being exiled does this mean that you are cutting yourself off from them in all respects, including economic ties? If you are serious about everything you are writing but letting them pay for anything then you are kidding yourself. You can't moan about their standards for you if you are taking their assistance on anything. Otherwise it's just moaning.

As for Christmas......I'm certain that there are plenty of Anetters out there who would welcome you over for Christmas dinner. If you are in ATL you are welcome for Christmas dinner at our place.



Is my Pan Am ticket to the moon still good?
User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1560 posts, RR: 34
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4455 times:

Going along with ANCflyer, you are more than welcome at my home in Tampa. It will just be me, hubby, munchkin and my parents, who by the way, would welcome you with open arms!
I dont know about ANCflyer but I can whip up some mean martinis too! Hee hee hee......

SWA TPA



I believe I can fly.....
User currently offlineVC10 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1412 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4447 times:

UAL747,
Some years ago just after my divorce I was for the first time in 20 years left on my own [no children, no wife ] for Christmas. Being on my own was bad enough but everybody else seemed to be getting ready for the fun except me, which seemed to make it worst.

Then I told myself it was just another day off work and I relaxed , read books, played music and watched films on TV but kept away from all those Christmas programs, and do you know it was quite a good day.

Although I am not gay and probably like your parents do not quite understand it, I am sure that given time and space and without the fact being pushed in front of them all the time, they will come round, so perhaps you just have to wait a bit.

Anyway all the best for Sunday the 25th and happy reading and listening and remember it is only another day

little vc10


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40076 posts, RR: 74
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4446 times:

Quoting TPA" class=quote target=_blank>SWA TPA (Reply 17):
you are more than welcome at my home in Tampa.

Now what would I need to do get a special invite SWA TPA?  Smile



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1560 posts, RR: 34
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4429 times:

Mr.Fly, you dont need an invite! Just drop on by anytime!

SWA TPA



I believe I can fly.....
User currently offlineRobertNL070 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 4534 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4422 times:

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
and that everyone they knew that was gay has died of AIDS

Very doubtful.

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
It was hard not to raise my voice when I was talking to them. And I did raise my voice.

Understandable.

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
"You have so much talent and things going for you, then you decide to be like this. To ME, you aren't Philip anymore."

Hmm. Does being gay preclude being talented and having things going for you?

Try not to be too depressed and do try to make something of your Christmas. Hopefully your family might have moderated their views come this time next year.

Take care.

Regards, Robert  bouncy 



Youth is a gift of nature. Age is a work of art.
User currently offlineMaury From United States of America, joined May 2005, 532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4413 times:

Scratch the San Jose offer, I'm heading to Tampa for martinis with SWA TPA.

And speaking of whispering: when my father remarried after my mother's death, I went to NC for the wedding. And brought/met up with a (male) date. My "new mommy" made a large point of sitting me down and telling me how tolerant she was and accepting and understanding -- never once saying the word "gay." OK...whatever.

After the ceremony, my "new sister" invited me and my date over to the house she shared with her (female) roommmate. Of about 20 years (insert foreshadowing music.) We all sit down in the living room. She makes us all move to the center of the room. (I am NOT making this up.) She *closes all the blinds in the room.* And then, furtively, whispers: "I just wanted you to know. We're...gay."

Well, no kidding. Poor Mike looks at me, all confused--he'd thought we were gonna break out the uh ceremonial peace pipe or something, and all it was, was this? So I asked her, "why all the secrecy? Your Mom just spent 15 minutes telling me she was the North Carolina branch of PFLAG..." "Oh my GOD no! Mother doesn't know...it would RUIN our reputation if people KNEW!"

So there you go. Families: given to you, not chosen!


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4412 times:

I hate to say this, but your family sounds horrid.

Your grandma may be too old and too religious to understand or be supportive, but the rest of your family have no excuse to treat you as they did.

Also, if your mother and sister have no issue with it, then why didn't they stand up for you?

Call up a friend and go spend Christmas with him/her instead, and tell your relatives to drop dead.

Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
They told me I was going down a "dead-end" road and that everyone they knew that was gay has died of AIDS

Btw, just how many gay people do these homophobes know?


User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4400 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):
Now what would I need to do get a special invite SWA TPA?

I'll bet it will involve you "bending over backwards."  Wink

Seriously, UAL747, never underestimate just how insensitive family can be. An old adage is that "you can pick your friends, but you cannot pick your relatives." VC10 is right: Christmas is, in many ways, just another day, and a day that is portrayed by the media as being warm, wonderful and nurturing. Truth is it's more like National Lampoon's "Christmas Vacation" for most people. Not to take away from other's enjoyment of it and its meaning to them, but look at what you have and who you are. Hang in there, and as for those family members who put you down: fuck 'em.


25 STLGph : Apparently none. They're dead.
26 Post contains images Superfly : Oh $h!t! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! My door is open to you anytime as well. UAL747: Your more than welcome to spend Christmas in San Francisco with Superfly.
27 Jaysit : Well, as long as they haven't threatened to cut him off financially, I say let him milk them for as long as he can. Financial blackmail on their part
28 UAL747 : LOL, that was my question too! It made me have one of those moments, kind of like when you are having sex and going over your grocery list for tomorr
29 Amy : If I lived in the U.S. I'd invite you to have Christmas at mine! I can't imagine how it feels. I hope your family come round and realise that they lov
30 STLGph : you have that problem, too?!
31 Dtwclipper : Phil; I am so sorry to hear about you and your family. I would like to say, give them some time to deal with it, but that doesn't help the hurt you mu
32 Nordair : I had a homophobe Christmas once and that was enough. I was invited, but apparently unwelcome by several family members who were present. They were op
33 UAL747 : I hate it when people tell me to ignore it as well. It's like shoving it all under the rug. Even though it's covered, it's still there. UAL
34 JpetekYXMD80 : I'd hate to have the cliche police after me, but I think this thread shows what Christmas is about. You're more than welcome in my home, too. I am gla
35 Post contains images Dtwclipper : Quoting myself here, really bad form, but I kind a just realized that Detroit is porbably not the place most people would want to spend Christmas....
36 Post contains images Nordair : Nothing cliche at all in what you wrote. Edited because a.net doesn't accept accent aigu.[Edited 2005-12-20 23:42:26]
37 Post contains images Superfly : I would. You guys have a fresh blanket of new snow and a flight to Detroit would most likely be a flight on Northwest.
38 Asbg : Now that you went back, did any of your family members call you to see how you were? Sam.
39 Searpqx : I'll add my sympathy to the chorus. I can't believe what a family will do to itself in the name of religion. I had something similar happen to me, exc
40 KiwiinOz : Bizarre that this sort of stuff still happens. I guess a lot of old school homophobes still place homosexuals in a broad category of "deviant". As it
41 Dtwclipper : Was that invite just open to UAL747?
42 KiwiinOz : Anyone is welcome. I'd better go out and purchase a walk in beer fridge though.
43 Maury : Buckets of prawns and a walk-in Esky trumps Tampa martinis. Hmm...maybe we shoulda started this thread earlier. But seriously: see how the offers pour
44 Saxdiva : Well, damn... much as you might feel you *should* be able to just say screw them, I would imagine this smarts. Sorry that your family can't seem to ge
45 LTBEWR : Your Gay. So what. It's not like your some ax murderer or a terrorist or a child molester. It is good that you are not trying to stay in the closet an
46 Post contains images Dtwclipper :
47 Post contains images Pilot kaz : Phil, That's so sad to hear , I'm sorry but your family sounds like a bunch of jerks they should accept you for who you are.... Hell If I was living c
48 KiwiinOz : And another thing, a gay free Christmas?? When I think back to my own family Christmas celebrations, I can't imagine Christmas without the "gay" touch
49 Dtwclipper : So, Phil, You've gotten invitations from all over the world, were are you going to spend the day? Jeremy
50 A332 : Close the door and walk away... they're obviously too tied up in their own selfish beliefs to respect your thoughts and feelings. Who needs to be arou
51 WhiteHatter : Screw them and the horse they rode in on. Christmas is a time for getting together and enjoying the love of a family. If they want to fuck their Chris
52 Post contains images AeroWesty : Go by one thing only. How your grandmother dealt with her brother being gay. Eventually she'll either take to you as you are, or not, but it's the bes
53 Trekster : Sorry to hear that UAL. Christmas is a time for family, and they dont seem to see this. Im lucky that THE WHOLE of my family accept mefor who i am, ev
54 MD-90 : My sympathies. That's as far from Christian as it's just about possible to get. Someone needs to remind Grandma that Jesus died for everyone, not just
55 Post contains images VSLover : i thought the jews killed him. the gay jews....
56 CurtisMan : Phil, You must be extremely hurt. To deal with something like this is devastating and can crush your spirit. On top of it all, it happened at Christma
57 Falcon84 : Eventually, most families realize, sometime belatedly, that the most important thing in their lives, in the end, is each other-nothing else. Blood is
58 Canuckpaxguy : I agree with Curtisman to an extent. You need to educate your family. Accept their beliefs, as screwy as they may seem because your "new lifestyle" is
59 Jamie757 : I do feel for you UAL, and I hope that your family soon changes their opinion on your sexuality. As has been said, blood is thicker than water and I'm
60 Nordair : Agreed. But, that does not give them the right to punish Phil for it.
61 Post contains images CXA330300 : Sorry to hear that....they are the ones who violate Christianity. If Jesus supposedly loves everyone, Jesus definitely loves gays too. Unfortunately,
62 Canuckpaxguy : Very true, and I'm certainly not defending them, but clearly they just don't know any better. That's why UAL747 needs to educate them. Their actions
63 Post contains images 767Lover : Now that is a post I agree with! Sorry to hear about your insensitive family, UAL747. Hang in there...it IS just another day. Trust me, if my mom wer
64 UAL747 : Educating them is SO difficult given the situations. I really don't know what else to say, but that I like guys. I mean, any religious conversation w
65 Saxdiva : I hate to say it, Phil, but I think you've outgrown them, and it's quite possible that they'll never accept this. If the alternative is masquerading
66 Jmc1975 : It's too bad it has to be that way. You could've just had a nice family Christmas and left the gay stuff in the closet for a day. I don't use Christm
67 Post contains links Dtwclipper : JMC, next time "Torch Song Trilogy" is TV, I urge you to watch it! Maybe then you might be a little understanding. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt009628
68 KiwiinOz : I think you may have misunderstood. He wasn't planning on wearing his jeans with the arse cut out at Christmas lunch. The coming out had nothing to d
69 Post contains images Jmc1975 : Torch? Flame? Hey I get it!
70 JpetekYXMD80 : You got to be kidding me, right JMC? Where on earth could you get the idea that he flaunted anything. Not even worth anyones time, here you go ruinin
71 Post contains images Jmc1975 : Errrrrrrr! Where is your tolerance for diversity of thought? This is an aviation forum....not everyone has to conform to your thought process.
72 JpetekYXMD80 : Don't start with me. This is not a place to debate your feelings about homosexuality. For you, I have no tolerance right now. You're just trying to s
73 KiwiinOz : Would probably be more tolerant if you took the time to understand the thread before making yourself look like a fool.... No prawns or beer for you!!
74 AeroWesty : Okay, what thought process would someone have to go through to be gay 364 days a year, but not on Christmas? Either you're out or not. One doesn't ju
75 Jmc1975 : Spending Christmas with family has nothing to do with being gay. Family is who knows you best and the longest. And they will be there for you when no
76 JpetekYXMD80 : And he was persecuted because of it, so he left. They sure are demonstrating that admirably.... grieve what? what about this 'right' You have no case
77 September11 : please do not feel too disencouraged -- we are up to HEATED discussion!
78 Post contains images 3DoorsDown : Unbelievable!!! Maybe you should invite your Mom and Sister out to your house. Everyone meaning Rock Hudson. I'm sure if they new someone was gay tha
79 Jmc1975 : The fact their son isn't who they thought he was. Why not? Are you intolerant? I hope not....or else that would make a hypocrite. Now wouldn't want t
80 Msllsmith : Oh, I am SO sorry your family treated you that way. That was SO unnesseccary and so stupid and uninformed! I think a young guy by your age has a prett
81 AeroWesty : Except if you're gay, you're saying. Nice family ya got there, Jmc!
82 Post contains images Nosedive : Long post short, the ones who come around will come around. The ones who don't probably won't. But family, as Saxdiva states, don't have to be blood!
83 Post contains images Kiwiandrew : Phil I agree fully with both the above - I am sure that given a little time to think things through most of your family will come to realise how hurt
84 AirPacific747 : UAL, I too am sorry to hear about this! I think you should stop calling your family and stop visiting them again before they will accept that you are
85 Post contains images FlyAUA : Phil, I'm really sorry to hear about this. I would have done exactly the same as you if I didn't feel welcome there either. I hope you are not offend
86 ZKSUJ : Hey Sorry to hear about the unfortunate incident with the rest of your family. It sucks to be honest but things should blow over sooner or later. In t
87 Nordair : If he's intolerant, he is intolerant of those who seek to make things worse for others rather than better. Perhaps you could stand in for Phil with h
88 Trekster : He is still there son no matter what. He eats, sleeps, falls in love etc etc etc. Thats what my dad told me any way when i told him why i had not sai
89 Post contains images Cxsjr : Oh yes, of course, we have a 'choice' and 'decide' to be gay - NOT! People who think it was a choice or decision should go screw themselves! Your gra
90 KROC : With all the pictures of yourself around your place, one would tend to think that spending Christmas alone would be your style.
91 Post contains images BAe146TOM : i'm really asorry to hear about how they have treated you- this is my first year of being out to my mother and sister although most of my family don;t
92 Cxsjr : [.............................................] insert any one of a number of things from A to Z; .... activist, bigot ...... zealot!
93 Post contains images Skidmarks : Phil, I am so sorry to hear this. While I could quite gladly scrap Christmas as it stands, it is a time for Families to get together and forget differ
94 Erikwilliam : nã, not really, but my mom did told me to behave this year, and don´t do like last year, were me and my cousin(girl) got as drunk as monkeys and st
95 Cxsjr : ..... it does.
96 Erikwilliam : ok, thx for that. new question: how do I specify that it´s a girl cousin, just write like this: me and my girl cousin... is it correct?
97 BNE : Phil that just sucks; I guess like this thread things were going along merrily and something comes with a remark here and there and suddenly you got a
98 Greasespot : After 94 replies pretty much everything has has been written and said that I am not sure that I can really add anything else. So i am going to share a
99 Kiwiandrew : yes , if you want to specify gender , but most of the time in English you just refer to your cousin and people will either work it out from the conte
100 Erikwilliam : ahhhh, great then man,thx a lot. My difficulty was that in Portuguese we have a male and female words, hence that, there´s no need to say boy or gir
101 Post contains images Kiwiandrew : I have the opposite problem , I am learning French and of course have to remember to specify genders where in English you wouldn't happy holidays to
102 Post contains images Jkw777 : Sorry to hear that man, I'm in a similar situation but not on the gay front. Basically this will be my last Christmas with my parents as I'm moving ou
103 Redngold : Phil, I'm sorry this has happened. I don't know how I would handle the situation... but I think it's sad that they made you feel so unwelcome and at t
104 Erikwilliam : isn´t that what´s Thanksgiving is for?! UAL, I have an idea, since you´r so sad, go to the X-mas party and when people see you they´ll be shocked
105 Erikwilliam : Dude, I just had another great idea. And this time you can be yourself and people will respect you. All you need is a bit of cooperation from ANC and
106 Post contains images Adam T. : UAL, i'm so sorry this happening to you. I haven't told my extended family about being gay though my parents know and are fine with it. I agree with w
107 Saxdiva : EW... you REALLY need to lay off the ganja before posting.
108 VSLover : or drink a bit less in the middle of the day....
109 Sudden : That sounds like bulls**t to me! Ask them what the real issue is about! Do not raise your voice or start any sort of discussion about right or wrong.
110 Malb777 : Oh so gay people dont have talent and things going for them. Sorry but did not a very talented gay man get married to his long term partner today . P
111 BestWestern : I agree - and perhaps having driven you away this christmas, they will be the ones feeling guilty. (Some of them anyway)... And I sure hope that they
112 TWFirst : Tell your grandma her snatch is all dried up and nobody wants it anymore. Tell her she's a hypocrite and that god is love. Tell her you're going to te
113 Sudden : Not a very educated point of view/solution, really. Aim for the sky! Sudden
114 KROC : In all seriousness, bagging on the guys family, no matter what they said at this point isn't going to help anything.
115 TWFirst : I disagree... putting a smile on Philip's face is important right now, and I intend to do it. You wouldn't understand my fabulous gay humor... cuz yo
116 TACAA320 : They are A LOT of evil people in this world. Can't you read the news?
117 Post contains images KROC : Believe it or not, just because you like cheese laden cocks doesn't mean I don't understand your "humor". I agree we should try and make him laugh, b
118 Post contains images Sudden : Now that's funny! Check my profile TWFirst. Aim for the sky! Sudden
119 TWFirst : Cheese laden cocks..... mmmmmmmm. I can't seem to find any lately. LIFE is a joke... the sooner everyone realizes that, the better. By the way, be gl
120 Post contains images TWFirst : Swedish.... Dutch.... whatever.
121 AeroWesty : I would normally agree with this except for one thing. Life isn't fair. Never will be. Phil's going to have to learn how to be a tough ol' queen, and
122 Post contains images TWFirst : AMEN sister!
123 KROC : I do, but walking sometimes is better and safer than driving with the rest of the morons during an early morning Lake Effect blizzard.
124 SYRGuy : So true, its amazing how many people out there have no clue what their doing while driving in the snow.
125 Jmc1975 : It sounds like a long-term tragedy in order to attain short-term satisfaction. Not a wise thing.
126 AeroWesty : Yes, bigotry is so Archie Bunker.
127 Dtwclipper : You are being just cruel and narrowminded. In any event....Happy Christmas to you!
128 Jmc1975 : I disagree. The suggestions that TWFirst were making were beyond cruel. They support a further disharmony between Phil and his family...truly NOT a g
129 AeroWesty : Life must be tough being so humorless. Read this part of what he said too:
130 AA777 : Phil, I'm really sorry to hear about what happened to you. I can only imagine how hard it must be to have your family all gang up on you like that. I
131 Alessandro : Like a friend of mine once said,"the biggest mistake most people do is trust their family".
132 UK_Dispatcher : Shocking. I don't think there's much to add to what everyone else has pretty much said. I just wanted to acknowledge your situation. Even if you do en
133 TWFirst : Is your last name Brady?? Ingalls? What planet are you from? So one is supposed to just accept the hatred and rejection of one's family in the name o
134 AirworldA320 : Spending Xmas alone after my wife pissed off and left me in October,now looking or someone new!!!
135 Jmc1975 : You're right...he doesn't have to take it. But his grandma has lived alot more life than him and one can be certain that she has a weath of wisdom to
136 AA777 : For some reason, I dont believe that she has much to offer him on the issues of homosexuality....Other things fine. But there are very few people who
137 Jmc1975 : I meant life in general.....it appears he doesn't need any guidance in homosexuality....he came to that decision on his own. The is much more to life
138 LesMainwaring : UAL747 i really don't think i can add anything else to the lengthy discussion already put forth here except to tell you that i am sorry you have to go
139 QANTASforever : UAL747 - my heart absolutely goes out to you. If it were in my neck of the woods - you would be more than welcome to enjoy Christmas with my family -
140 Aleksandar : Phil, it is really sad how your family treated you. They are not obliged to completely accept your sexuality, but they HAVE TO ACCEPT YOU AS A HUMAN B
141 Post contains images Iflyatldl : Phil- Give it some time. I went through the same things years ago. Now all my family knows and my dad was MOST supportive befoe he died. Go fig.! In t
142 Aggieflyboi04 : UAL, Your are more then welcome to come to CLT Christmas night for dinner. I have been in your spot before, i was raised southern bapitsed and when i
143 Nordair : Balance? Bigotry and hatred equals balance? Perhaps during the holidays you might find a few moments to recover from your rectalcranialinversion.
144 Post contains images Iflyatldl : If your family wants a Gay Free Christmas, I hope you demand at least a Straight-Light Christmas! Merry Christmas!
145 Maury : ...and for all of you on here who think sexual orientation is a choice: shame on YOU! Would your intelligent designer let you make that kind of life-
146 Catatonic : looks like there will be no fairy for the tree at your house this year!
147 Scamp : Phil... My two cents: deeply sorry you had to go through all that with your family. Were I in that situation, I could easily walk away from them and n
148 Ctbarnes : "You've got two choices: Either you can laugh or you can hang yourself." -Voltaire Seriously though, perhaps the best thing is to give it a bit of ti
149 Post contains images Cragley : Hey UAL, No doubt your family has taught you to stand up for yourself and your beliefs. You might want to remind them that standing up for yourself is
150 Post contains images Saxdiva : UAL747 hasn't posted in three days now, so let's hope he found himself a better gig this year.
151 UAL747 : Sorry for not posting, but here's how everything panned out. I was invited to Christmas, because my mom and sister threw a fit that I wasn't. I should
152 Post contains images Nordair : No Phil, you were not weak. You showed great courage by going when you really did not know what you might have to endure. Your mother and sister want
153 Ctbarnes : I don't think it was weak either. It sounds as if at least part of your family is behind you and that is a good thing. If you get the chance, talk to
154 Saxdiva : Phil, you are way more of a man than they give you credit for, and you did EXACTLY the right thing. You keep taking the high road, and their behavior
155 Redngold : Merry Christmas, Phil.
156 57AZ : Sorry to hear about this. I hope that the above comes about. Realistically though, some differences of this type never heal. Back when one of my mom'
157 Kiwiandrew : on the contrary , I think that took great strength , the easy/weak option would have been to stay away and avoid dealing with the issue. I can't prom
158 VSLover : i totally agree with what has been said since your recent post. showing up for christmas does not show weakness, but quite the contrary. it took coura
159 N276AASTT : Hold your head up Big Pimp'n Actions speak louder than words. Dispite what had happened prior, you still went back because it was important to your mo
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