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Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?  
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/21/britain.elton/index.html
I'm not an expert in this theme, but following a Royal tradition the spouse of somebody who received the title "Sir" from HRH The Queen is called "Lady".

I will appreciate if the British citizens here at A.net can clarify me this peculiar situation.

Thanks a lot in advance.

[Edited 2005-12-21 15:10:13]

[Edited 2005-12-21 15:18:44]

70 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2424 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Thread starter):
I'm not an expert in this theme, but following a Royal tradition the spouse of somebody who received the title "Sir" from HRH The Queen is called "Lady".

Sorry, we´r too busy finding someone to marry Freddy Mercury.

signed, British citizens.



Dida, Cafu, Lucio, Roque Junior, Roberto Carlo, Emerson, Ze Roberto, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Adriano, Robinho, Ronaldo
User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2423 times:

"Luvvie" or a "Queens consort" maybe?

User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2414 times:

Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 1):

Sorry, we´r too busy finding someone to marry Freddy Mercury.

signed, British citizens.

Only you can give such an answer!


User currently offlineManc From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 344 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

It will be like Little Britain!
"We're Ladies, doing Ladies things, We're Ladies don't you know"



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 1):
Quoting TACAA320 (Thread starter):
I'm not an expert in this theme, but following a Royal tradition the spouse of somebody who received the title "Sir" from HRH The Queen is called "Lady".

Sorry, we´r too busy finding someone to marry Freddy Mercury.

signed, British citizens.

Hope you find a matching corpse.
He's been dead for years.


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2395 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 5):
He's been dead for years.

Of course. But never is too late.


User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 5):
Hope you find a matching corpse.
He's been dead for years.

but his soul is still alive in all of brits hearts (kind poetic isn´t it)



Dida, Cafu, Lucio, Roque Junior, Roberto Carlo, Emerson, Ze Roberto, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Adriano, Robinho, Ronaldo
User currently offlineManc From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 344 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

yes I often get the urge to don my leather pants and handle bar 'tash!!!
ooo err misses!!
Off to drink afternoon tea and scones now  Wink



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User currently offlineNordair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2366 times:

No. The wife of a knight can be called "Lady" if she bears no higher title. The spouse of a knight is not accorded the courtesy. Nor is the husband of a Dame (female knight) allowed to be called "Sir" or even "Lady".  Smile

User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

Quoting Nordair (Reply 9):
No. The wife of a knight can be called "Lady" if she bears no higher title. The spouse of a knight is not accorded the courtesy. Nor is the husband of a Dame (female knight) allowed to be called "Sir" or even "Lady".

Well, according with the Press Office at Buckingham Palace they have such doubt [about Furnish's title]. A CNN journalist placed such question, and the answer was "We need to study the answer". I heard that this in the morning news.

[I'm not saying that what you said is not true. I'm just simply curious about this particular situation].


User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20743 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2349 times:

Wouldn't a queen be offended by being called a lady?


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User currently offlineNordair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2337 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 11):
Wouldn't a queen be offended by being called a lady?

I get it, but I doubt many here will.  Wink


There is a story about the present Queen Elizabeth when she was a little girl. She was with her grandmother, the very grand Queen Mary. Elizabeth was helped out of a car by a gentleman who said to her, "There you go young lady."

Elizabeth promptly corrected the man, "I am not a lady. I am a princess."

Queen Mary acidly remarked, "Yes, this is Princess Elizabeth and we hope that one day she will behave as a lady."


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2317 times:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=LADYLady Chiefly British. A general feminine title of nobility and other rank, specifically:
Used as the title for the wife or widow of a knight or baronet.
Used as a form of address for a marchioness, countess, viscountess, baroness, or baronetess.
Used as a form of address for the wife or widow of a baron.
Used as a courtesy title for the daughter of a duke, a marquis, or an earl.
Used as a courtesy title for the wife of a younger son of a duke or marquis.

"Used as the title for the wife or widow of a knight or baronet. "
I think fits here.


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2304 times:

Do you remember Daffyd interviewing Elton?

Quote:
DAFFYD: Right, any kids?

SIR ELTON: No.

DAFFYD: I often see you around and about with this chap David Furnish, is he one of your nephews?

SIR ELTON: No.

Daffyd writes in his notebook.

DAFFYD: Close friend. Okey dokey, now lets get on and talk about your work. Now when it comes to writing a song, Bernie Taupin, he writes the lyrics, and you add the music. Does it come quickly or do you find yourself staying up all night, bashing one out?

SIR ELTON: No I’ve always come quickly actually, yeah.

DAFFYD: Now, when you’re not writing or recording, you like to do light concerts don’t you?

SIR ELTON: Yes.

DAFFYD: Yes, in fact you’ve recently been playing in Las Vegas, do you enjoy filling Celine Dion’s slot?

SIR ELTON: I wish I could say yes, but no.



User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2302 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 11):
Wouldn't a queen be offended by being called a lady?

truth is, wouldn´t Elton by offended by the other "dude" being called a lady?



Dida, Cafu, Lucio, Roque Junior, Roberto Carlo, Emerson, Ze Roberto, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Adriano, Robinho, Ronaldo
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2296 times:

Isn't Furnish a US citizen?

Thus, even if someone decided to change the rules to allow gay spouses to take titles, he wouldn't be allowed.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8580 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2293 times:
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Quoting Banco (Reply 16):
Isn't Furnish a US citizen?

.

Canadian I thought



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2291 times:

Somehow I just can't imagine calling Elton John, "SIR."

In any case, Furnish better keep SIR happy, or else, SIR will trade him in for a younger model.

Let the trophy gay husband industry begin in earnest in Britain.


User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2288 times:

Does anybody knows how or what one must do to become a British Crow Knight?
I mean, all Elton do is sing, take up the ass and wear horrible clothes, why is he worthy of beeing a Knight?



Dida, Cafu, Lucio, Roque Junior, Roberto Carlo, Emerson, Ze Roberto, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Adriano, Robinho, Ronaldo
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2283 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 18):
Somehow I just can't imagine calling Elton John, "SIR."

Does Sir Reg Dwight sound better? Big grin

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 17):
Canadian I thought

Oh. Shows how much I know.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2268 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 16):
Isn't Furnish a US citizen?

According with RTE [Radio Television Española] he's from Canada.


User currently offlineRlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1093 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2265 times:

Why even bother with this. The guy will be thrown out on the street the first time Elton has a fit.


I can drive faster than you
User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2262 times:

Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 19):
Does anybody knows how or what one must do to become a British Crow Knight?
I mean, all Elton do is sing, take up the ass and wear horrible clothes,

Just start singing and you've got it made!


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

You gotta love that wig! Designed by Donatella Versace Big grin



25 Post contains images Cfalk : I heard someone suggest that he should be called that, but just ponounce it "Laddie". :D
26 Jaysit : NEWS ALERT !!!! NEWS ALERT !!!! Elton John marries long time toy boy; no collapse of Western civilization reported.
27 Nordair : He isn't called SIR. It would be Sir Elton, or simply as Elton. He doesn't use it much. The Queen made him a knight upon the advice of Her Government
28 QANTASforever : Brilliant! As for the Civil-Union, are Canadians entitled to Knighthoods? QFF
29 TACAA320 : Sound nice. I find it simply fugly. Looks like a bird of the Parrot Jungle.
30 Post contains images Cornish : Maybe they should make him a Dame
31 Post contains images Willo : I hope that Sir Elton donates that suit to the earthquake victims in Pakistan - there's enough material to make a tent for at least 6 people.
32 Kiwiandrew : he hasn't been thrown out in 12 years of queensized Elton John tantrums - can't imagine he will be now
33 Post contains images Cornish : Isn't the Queen still head of state in Canada (despite the best efforts of those dastardly French Quebecoise )? I guess that means he can be....
34 Banco : Not necessarily. Not all countries where the Queen is Head of State allow their citizens knighthoods. Australia is a case in point.
35 Post contains images Cornish : Ah but then no-one in their right mind would call an Australian Sir, thats what they say to us when they take our food or drink order
36 Post contains images Banco : There's Sir Les Patterson. That seems about right, wouldn't you say?
37 Post contains images Cornish : Exactly - we made the mistake once and realised it would be a bad idea to repeat the experience
38 Post contains images Skidmarks : Lady David Furnish doesn't sound quite right does it? Andy and confused
39 Erikwilliam : HA-HA-HA very funny. Yes that´ll be nice.
40 Post contains images Skidmarks : Dream on, son, dream on!!!!!!!!! Andy
41 QANTASforever : I wouldn't expect a knighthood any time soon with your manners. Actually you never made a mistake. Regal honours were always left to the Australian g
42 Post contains images Skidmarks : Meowwwwwwwwwwwwww Andy
43 QANTASforever : BTW... Cornish: Nobody (and I mean NOBODY) badmouths Sir Les. QFF
44 Post contains images Banco : Ahhhhh. Hook, line and sinker! I think Dame Edna has a bit of a problem with him. I mean, you never see them together, do you?
45 Manc : I think Elton is SIR Mon-Thurs and David SIR Thurs-Sun, everyones happy!
46 Post contains images Cornish : Good god - what an awful thought What ?? Are you suggesting Dame Edna might be Sir Les in drag ?? Mine's being announced in the New Year, and Banco t
47 QANTASforever : Uh, yeah - absolutely. (Reads teleprompter) "I was completely sucked into what was going on, and blindly and without any sarcastic intent, parody, or
48 Post contains images Cornish : Actually we were just seeing if you were still up down there. Far more effective than saying QFF are you awake? Spoken like a true legendary British
49 Banco : A fine piece of rhetoric. I' m not sure about the last line though. Maybe something about not giving up would scan better, don't you think?
50 QANTASforever : Yeah, it's like my very own bat-signal. Just insult Australia and I fly in. One thing I actually didn't mean to do was hijack the thread (seriously,
51 Post contains images Cornish : Oh no - lets not. The gay marriage thing is SO yesterday's news. This is much more fun
52 QANTASforever : Are you...mad? It makes absolutely no sense. It's the ravings of a total lunatic. Yeah, it's always better to steer clear of paraphrasing Churchill -
53 Post contains images Banco : Oh come now, you can be a bit extreme, but a total lunatic? I don't think I'd go quite that far. I feel a responsibility to encourage you, particular
54 Post contains images Cornish : Yep - far better than talking about two old poofs getting married Thanks QFF - you can tell its my last day in the office before Xmas and I've got no
55 QANTASforever : No, not cruel. It feels that way sometimes on this forum. Kidding! Ugh, do I have to? Well alright then. Queen Elizabeth II is a credit to the nation
56 Post contains images Cornish : Make the most of our national treasure QFF - it'll be Charles and Carthorse Camilla next
57 Post contains images Gkirk : You know the UK is on a downhill slope when two blokes can marry each other I blame Tony Blair.
58 Post contains images Cornish : Just because you're jealous you can't marry your four-legged woolly other half
59 Post contains images Gkirk : Hawd yer wheesht fannybaws
60 Post contains images Cornish : Translator, any translator's on line? - anyone able to translate Kirkie's drunken ramblings ?
61 Post contains images Gkirk : Quiet you French git
62 TACAA320 : That's called a "versatile" couple.
63 Post contains images Cornish : Of course The Sun wins headline of the day with their front cover proclaiming: Elton takes David up the Aisle
64 Post contains images 9VSPO : Yeah, pretty funny even for The Sun. They showed all the papers on this morning's tv but for some reason that one never got mentioned.
65 Post contains images Banco : Good effort sir! I might challenge you to do this stuff more often.
66 Post contains images 9VSPO : Well someone's gotta look after all those convicts!
67 QANTASforever : You're absolutely right. Britain is where convicts come from afterall, so I can understand why she needs to spend so much time in the UK to supervise
68 Erikwilliam : yeah, man I had no idea how that would work, ehehehehe Horrible try man, horrryble. btw:skidmarks?!?!?!
69 Johnboy : Sir Elton John and David Furnish, the Duchess of Cornhole. Has a bit of a nice ring to it! signed, Betty Windsor (Mrs.)
70 Jasepl : Haha hahahaah! I have another one: A famous film personality was at a reception recently which honoured Queen Elizabeth II. When he approached her in
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