Jalto27R From United States of America, joined May 2004, 857 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1928 times:
Quoting Oly720man (Thread starter):
A series of agencies failed to spot signs which might have prevented a couple leaving their five children to starve in squalor, a report has found.
David Askew and Sarah Whittaker, both 24, were jailed for seven years each in 2004 after admitting child cruelty.
Police found critically ill one-year-old twins, one "within hours of death", at their home in Sheffield.
The report by senior civil servant Prof Pat Cantrill said not one single agency had looked at the family as a whole.
Officers called to the family home found the twins and three other children - aged three, four and seven - living in squalid conditions in excrement-smeared bedrooms.
We had a case like that in my area, in Collingswood, New Jersey, a couple years ago. It was a family of five, and in a family picture the 18 year old son looked about 7 or 8. The only reason they were caught was because the neighbors saw the son digging through the trash can one night, desperate for food. At first they claimed the kids had eating problems, but they later confessed. Sick, sick individuals.
Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1880 times:
Wouldn't killing them just give them the easy way out? Why not make them suffer in prison for the rest of their natural lives? They tortured and made other people suffer, why not give them a solitary cell with NOTHING for 25 years. A bed, a toilet, a shower everyday, enough food and water, and NOTHING else. Make them sit in their little cell thinking about the shit they did for the rest of their life.
I'm usually not one to advocate this type of punishment... but then again I don't approve of the death penalty.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13559 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1768 times:
Anybody anywhere who does the above described acts cannot be menatlly well. I would seriously suspect heavy drug and alcohol use in some of these cases. That is why we cannot and should not use the death penalty against them. I do believe in long lonely jail time for such people.
These stories show the limits of all governments to prevent such situations from happening. Far to many people are afraid of saying anything due to making a mistake, or retalitaion from that neighbor doing the harmful acts, or making a situation worse. Sometimes, the field people are afraid or limited by law as to what they can do. Those that do these acts also are very good at lying, acting and covering up their criminal beheavors. Perhaps programs in our schools and communities to help people recognize such potential dangerous situations and how to report them without fears would be part of the answer. Also the social services agencies need enough money to do their job, be properly staffed, make enough unnaounced visits and other procedural changes to limit those who lie to them.
StuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1759 times:
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 15): I would seriously suspect heavy drug and alcohol use in some of these cases. That is why we cannot and should not use the death penalty against them.
No offense intended, but that's bullshit LTBEWR. Drug and/or alcohol consumption is not an accidental thing, everyone knows the consequences before they use mind-altering substances. Therefore they are still completely accountable and bear the responsibility for their actions pre- or post- usage.
IAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1741 times:
Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 16): No offense intended, but that's bullshit LTBEWR. Drug and/or alcohol consumption is not an accidental thing, everyone knows the consequences before they use mind-altering substances. Therefore they are still completely accountable and bear the responsibility for their actions pre- or post- usage.
What he said.
Programs in schools are a waste of time. DARE is the biggest toilet in which money has ever been flushed. Think I'm lying? I've pulled Xanax off pre-teens. School programs can't hold a candle to peer pressure and music videos.