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Do You Believe In Fate?  
User currently offlineGatorman96 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 873 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1912 times:

There is a thread in the Civil Av forum that got me thinking (http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2505599/) about fate. If this family had left their home 2 seconds earlier or later, this would've never happened. If the NW 737 had landed a few feet earlier, they would've never overrun the runway. So many variables went wrong, and as a result, no one else in the car passed except for this six year-old. Do you believe in fate or pure coincidence? Any examples that would cause you to lean one way or another?

[Edited 2005-12-23 01:51:13]


Cha brro
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User currently offlineKiwiNanday From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

Fate is a joke. Short answer is no.


This incident is a coincidence. The kid died, sucks to be him, sucks for the family, but suing the airport, airline, and pilots isn't solving it.


User currently offlineJkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1904 times:

Yes, I do believe in fate!

Regards,
Justin  Smile


User currently offlineLesMainwaring From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 542 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1890 times:

Sometimes there are things that happen that have such an astronomical odds of being pure coincidence that it makes you wonder.

I do believe we have a say in our own destiny, however, but sometimes it seems like things happen for a reason, although they are not always apparent (if ever.)

Somehow, I think we set our fate into motion with our actions and behaviors (like karma) but not always.

One of my favorite bumper stickers is: "Sometimes you are the windshield, sometimes you are the bug." Simplistic, but realistic.

Happy Holidays,

The Lester Mainwaring Party



I want something under my wheels thats plenty long and mighty dry --- Vern Demarest
User currently offlineSkysurfer From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

I don't believe in fate at all......if i did it would bring up the scary thought that our lives are pre programmed somehow.

Cheers



In the dark you can't see ugly, but you can feel fat
User currently offlineGatorman96 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1884 times:

Quoting Skysurfer (Reply 4):
if i did it would bring up the scary thought that our lives are pre programmed somehow.

Is that the only reason you don't believe in fate?



Cha brro
User currently offlineSkySurfer From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 5):
Is that the only reason you don't believe in fate?

Nope, but it works for me. Some people would argue that fate is linked to religion etc, and i'm not that religious either. Is fate the same as destiny, and is coincidence the same as chance/luck? I believe we're just in the right place at the right/wrong time to give an outcome we percieve as either 'lucky' or unlucky'.

Cheers



In the dark you can't see ugly, but you can feel fat
User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

I believe in fate, and I also believe in coinedence. There is a reason for everything, and i learn to accept it. There is a reason why we ran into people on the street, why we meet new people at work, why we have car accidents, why we have plane crashes, there is a time and purpose for everything, and only time can tell. but i dont worry about fate, i really believe we cant contorl what happens to us, but we cna control what WE do. So live life to the fullest and try to have a great life and let it go.

for the religious people

" You want to know how to make god laugh? Just tell him your plans"

Alex



Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1855 times:

There has to be a catalyst for every event. Things dont just happen by coincidence, if they did then nobody would be wondering why a six year old who was singing along to bruce springsteen in full holiday spirit was dead 3 seconds later.

User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20642 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1848 times:

I believe we share common destinies, and fate is nothing more than the realization of what we've set into motion to learn from on our way there. While I believe fate is inevitable, all things must come to fruition, I don't believe fate can be explained away by using the law of averages, or anything we don't have ultimate control over.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

Fate yes,but We determine it to an extent.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21470 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days ago) and read 1805 times:

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 8):
There has to be a catalyst for every event. Things dont just happen by coincidence, if they did then nobody would be wondering why a six year old who was singing along to bruce springsteen in full holiday spirit was dead 3 seconds later.

Pure rationalization. Humans are simply not mentally equipped to deal with random coincidence.

"Fate" is an interpretation - almost always retroactively - that is applied to only those few cases which get caught in the subjective "weird filter" while everything else is simply shrugged off.

The concept tells a lot about how our minds work - but very little about how the world works!


User currently offlineGilligan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1794 times:

Fate is what we make.

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21641 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

I do believe in fate, along with predestination of everything. I also believe that because of predestination, everything can be predicted if one knows enough of the mechanics of how things work.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1779 times:

Only in that I believe if you don't plan ahead a little bit and put in some sincere effort you are destined to accomplish nothing, be nothing or have nothing - or all three.

Is that fate?

There are some wildcards in our lives. Just about every factor that we don't firmly control is going to exert some influence on the outcome of our endeavors. That is not fate, it is simple the effects of causes you have not been permitted, or not bothered to observe.

As Clive Barker wrote: Every story has its roots in the resolution of an earlier story. (loose rendition)



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
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