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Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?  
User currently offlineF.pier From Italy, joined Aug 2000, 1523 posts, RR: 9
Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3586 times:

Are you frightened? Do you want to completely erase the origin of this day?
I think it's quite depressing seeing clever people trying to cancel the word Christ, and sincerely I don't think it's so intelligent.

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User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3582 times:

I write 'Christmas', and Im athiest.

Funny that the 'birth of Christ' is celebrated on a day that most agree isnt actually his birthday.


User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21530 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3559 times:

Quoting F.pier (Thread starter):
I think it's quite depressing seeing clever people trying to cancel the word Christ, and sincerely I don't think it's so intelligent.

I think it's just laziness or lack of space to spell it out fully.

-Mir



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User currently offlineFlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3529 times:

Quoting F.pier (Thread starter):
Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

It's just an abbrevation, why all the fuss  sarcastic 

Christ = Crucifix = A cross = The letter 'x'

Very simple  Wink



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3523 times:

The Greek name for Christ is Xristos, therefore early Christians used the X as a kind of shorthand notation for the word Christ. Later Christians, not understanding the Greek word, thought it was out of disrespect.

Harry



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User currently offlineAzoresLover From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3517 times:
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Quoting Newark777 (Reply 4):
The Greek name for Christ is Xristos, therefore early Christians used the X as a kind of shorthand notation for the word Christ.

Man, you learn something new every day!

Thanks for the post, Harry...I like that explanation!



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3495 times:

Quoting AzoresLover (Reply 5):

Man, you learn something new every day!

Thanks for the post, Harry...I like that explanation!

No problem, I had that grilled into me in Catholic middle school. Those nuns can be tough.  Wink

Harry



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User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5366 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3474 times:

Quoting F.pier (Thread starter):
I think it's quite depressing seeing clever people trying to cancel the word Christ, and sincerely I don't think it's so intelligent.

And I think it's depressing that modern Christians are ignorant as to the roots of the religion. Like Harry points out, the "X" in Xmas isn't an "X," but the Greek letter "Chi." Think about the "Jesus fish" that are oh-so popular. They don't spell IXOYE on them, but rather Ichthus, spelled Iota-Chi-Theta-Upsilon-Sigma.

Thus it has NOTHING to do with "taking the Christ out of Christmas," but is rather an artifact from a different language that has carried through the history of Christianity



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3461 times:
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It is the forerunner of today's sms lingo, u no wot I mean, it's gr8 lol


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User currently offlineFly_yhm From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1681 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3450 times:

I think some people do, do ti to take Christ out of Christmas.


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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21530 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3441 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 4):
The Greek name for Christ is Xristos, therefore early Christians used the X as a kind of shorthand notation for the word Christ. Later Christians, not understanding the Greek word, thought it was out of disrespect.



-Mir



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User currently offlineBritish767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 284 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3439 times:

Quoting F.pier (Thread starter):
Are you frightened? Do you want to completely erase the origin of this day?

I sometimes write Xmas (to save time) and I am not afraid of my religion. I think that's a pretty harsh comment.


User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5366 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3391 times:

Quoting Fly_yhm (Reply 9):
I think some people do, do ti to take Christ out of Christmas.

Uh huh. And do some people also write "JFK," "FDR," "LBJ," and "RFK" to dishonor those men? I'll say it again - it's a shorthand artifact of a different language which has carried over into our own, as much as using "e.g.," "n.b.," "etc." are.



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User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3387 times:

From what I understand, the letter 'X' signifies a cross. Since, according to whatever I have understood of christianity, Christ was crucified on a cross. Then hence somehow over the past few decades, people equate "Xmas" with "Christmas". Plus it is probably quicker to write.

Quoting F.pier (Thread starter):
Are you frightened? Do you want to completely erase the origin of this day?
I think it's quite depressing seeing clever people trying to cancel the word Christ, and sincerely I don't think it's so intelligent.

Question: how many decisions have you made for us? You ask in the thread topic as if you are talking to someone and they, without asking "what do you write and why do you do it" go ahead and assume that the particular someone you are thinking of is frightened? On top of which, you went ahead and decided to assume that the person is doing it for what you think they are doing it for. Nice. Don't ask them anything, chances are, you already know. irked 

I get the impression you have a problem with the shortened version of word 'Christmas'. If that is the case, why make it your problem?



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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3387 times:

How come as a kid I remember on Nickelodeon all the shows were big on Hanukah but every time there was a reference to Christmas it was always "Xmas?" All the boxes, cards, presents, everything labelled Xmas?

User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4896 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3383 times:

I sometimes use "Xmas" instead of "Christmas" because I'm lazy. Five less letters to type!


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User currently offlineVirgin744 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 919 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3332 times:

Quoting F.pier (Thread starter):
Do you want to completely erase the origin of this day?

If I were to play devils advocate here I would say that the origins you refer to are not biblical and are in fact origins of a latter day king/emperor who created a few misconceptions about this particular day amongst other things.

Take a look at any worthy encyclopedia and you'll find that Christmas and Trinity were invented or created at The First Council of Nicaea, which took place during the reign of the Emperor Constantine in 325 AD

But I guess the origin that you are referring to is the one mentioned above right..?  Wink

virgin744


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8544 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3314 times:
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Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 15):
I sometimes use "Xmas" instead of "Christmas" because I'm lazy. Five less letters to type!

ditto . I am just lazy , as an atheist the name in full doesn't bother me but it is quicker to use five fewer letters , I also usually write the days of the week as Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su but that doesn't mean that I am bothered by the references to the gods tyr, woden , thor , freya or saturn , or the references to moon and sun worship , they are just as irrelevant to me as christ .... I think sometimes people try to read too much into other peoples actions .



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User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3307 times:

It svs so mch tme whn ur wrting.

User currently offlineSkySurfer From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3278 times:

It's shortened so we don't have to spend the extra second writing a few letters more. Plus i guess a few kids these days can't even spell Christmas due to everything being shorthand.........it's the society we live in today.

Cheers



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3276 times:

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 7):
Think about the "Jesus fish" that are oh-so popular. They don't spell IXOYE on them, but rather Ichthus, spelled Iota-Chi-Theta-Upsilon-Sigma.

I'm not up on my Greek. Could anyone explain this bit to the ignorant (i.e. me) please?



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User currently offlineA332 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

What a stupid topic... it's not like we pronounce it 'ex-mas' or anything, and if someone does, they're a retard anyway.


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User currently offlineBA767s From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3253 times:

Like X-tina is Christina Aguellllerraaaahhh ( cant spell the name )

John  Smile


User currently offlineNancy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 467 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3244 times:

This is from a pretty good article about the x in Xmas, I recommend checking out the whole thing.

"Abbreviations used as Christian symbols have a long history in the church. The letters of the word "Christ" in Greek, the language in which the New Testament was written, or various titles for Jesus early became symbols of Christ and Christianity. For example, the first two letters of the word Christ (cristoV, or as it would be written in older manuscripts, CRISTOS) are the Greek letters chi (c or C) and rho (r or R). These letters were used in the early church to create the chi-rho monogram (see Chrismons), a symbol that by the fourth century became part of the official standard of the emperor Constantine. " http://www.cresourcei.org/symbols/xmasorigin.html

Abbreviations such as that were especially useful for two reasons: 1. Everything was copied by hand so the shorter you could make it the better, even when they first started using movable type it was an extremely laborious process and 2. Lots of people couldn't read so simple symbols were more practical than lots of letters.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3240 times:

Writing 'Xmas' in place of 'Christmas' saves 5 characters. Let's say you write the word 'Christmas' on average 20 times a day, during the month of December. That's 3100 characters saved in one year. Over the course of a writing lifetime (age 5 - 95, say) that's 279000 characters.

From http://www.pencils.com/index.html , it can be seen that an average pencil can write 45000 words. If the average number of characters per word (over the course of a lifetime) is 6, then writing Xmas saves you just over one entire pencil per lifetime!


User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3033 posts, RR: 28
Reply 25, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3236 times:

I write xmas, because I'm lazy plus it saves time, ink, a few key strokes that could be put to better use.  laughing 

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