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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 914 times:

I am starting to worry a little about my 10 year old son. I have always been into military stuff..reading books,studying military equipment building models etc. My son has also taken a real interest in all of that stuff as well. We play Medal of honor ,call of duty ,Delta force ,together all the time. It has always been something that he and I bond together with. I have always talked to him about the other side of War, people die when the B17 drops bombs... women ,children ... all get killed and it is not fun. I do not let him play Grand theft , or fictional violent games other than military games.

My Ex Wife is bitching about it now saying that I am teaching him to dismiss violence as acceptable. She got pissed when he recited a couple lines from Scar Face while pointing a toy gun at his friend. He is not a violent kid and is never in any kind of trouble, but it gets complicated.

Should I worry .. ??


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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2391 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 904 times:

Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):
Should I worry .. ??

To

Not at the moment, because he is still only 10, but I think that you should start playing racing games with him instead or just go out and play soccer with him or baseball or something. Or go biking with him. If you really want to show him aircraft, and build models with him and stuff, you should start building civllian aircraft with him. Maybe that was a stupid suggestion, but I dont think you should play violent games with him anymore, nor let him hear rap songs with lyrics full of dirty language. It would be great to start now before he becomes a teenager!

[Edited 2005-12-26 18:12:02]

User currently offlineJoness0154 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 667 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 895 times:

Do what my dad did. He enrolled me in a hunter safety and firearm safety course when I was 11 or 12.

Right now he thinks guns are just toys and probably doesn't understand the real power that they are capable of.

Going to the hunters safety and firearms course at that young of an age taught me many important lessons that are valid thoughout life. One of them was to treat all guns as if they are loaded, never point a gun (fake or real) at another person, and various safe gun handling techniques.

Take your son to one of these courses, and do it yourself while you are at it. Both of you will look at things differently after that and trust me he will look at both toy and real guns in a different light.



I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem
User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 881 times:

He enrolled me in a hunter safety and firearm safety course when I was 11 or 12.

Its a good idea , I will do this. I did the safety course when I was 11 as well. I want to start hunting with him when he is 11 and will make the course the first step.

I guess all we can do is try to teach them the right things , what they do with it is somewhat out of our control.



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 861 times:

Quoting Joness0154 (Reply 2):
Do what my dad did. He enrolled me in a hunter safety and firearm safety course when I was 11 or 12.

Right now he thinks guns are just toys and probably doesn't understand the real power that they are capable of.

Excellent suggestion. I think it's fine to play Medal of Honor and such with him. But he must learn the difference between fantasy and real life. This is the main problem with today's generation, where they imagine themselves becoming rappers, basketball stars or the Space Marine from DOOM.

Here's a good trick that my grand-dad did to me when I was about 7. He took a watermelon and loaded dum-dums in his .45 Colt Auto. He told me to stand next to the melon and imagine that it was my best friend's head. He then pulled out the pistol and shot it, and I was covered in watermelon remains. Believe me, the experience definately left me an impression, and now, over 3 decades later, that image comes to mind ever time I pick up a gun, and I am absolutely ruthless about obeying gun safety rules. I even cussed out a gunnery instructor when I was in the army for being too lax.  Smile


User currently offlineVaporlock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 840 times:

Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):
My Ex Wife is bitching about it now saying that I am teaching him to dismiss violence as acceptable. She got pissed when he recited a couple lines from Scar Face while pointing a toy gun at his friend. He is not a violent kid and is never in any kind of trouble, but it gets complicated.

Should I worry .. ??

No, honestly, as a woman and mom of 2 young men, I don't think there is anything wrong with how you spend time and have bonded with your son by "playing Medal of Honor, call of duty ,Delta force ,together all the time". You also have made him aware of the "other side of war, people die when the B17 drops bombs... women ,children ... all get killed and it is not fun."

I think your wife is jumping to conclusions and should back off. In fact she should be glad that you spend time with your son. Sounds like you and your son have a great relationship and a good bond. Maybe that is her issue and she needs to look at the big picture.

Just my 2 cents!!!

Phyllis  bouncy 


User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 810 times:

Cfalk: , What a good story ,, I would love to have him tell his Mother about that !! Hey Mom guess what me and Dad did !!! Good idea though, you probably would not forget that !

Vaporlock: Yes it may be an Ex Wife over reaction but you know, you hear some scary stuff about kids nowadays and I just worry about it. I just hope I always set a good example for Him.

Thanks all ,



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 780 times:

Take him on a Police Station tour.Show him how the Cops work.Get him to realise that Its Important to be on the right side.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 777 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
Take him on a Police Station tour.Show him how the Cops work.Get him to realise that Its Important to be on the right side.

Why? Is that where they keep the donuts?



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 773 times:

Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):
She got pissed when he recited a couple lines from Scar Face while pointing a toy gun at his friend.

Bad call. I'd have been pissed as well. Guns are not toys and you might find one day your son repeating this act with a real one - not knowing the difference.

I'm not calling you out here AGM100 - just stating I think this was a particularly bad call . . . teaching bad habits. Rule #3 of Gun Safety: Don't let your muzzle cover anything you're not willing to destroy.

Does your 10 year old son know the difference between the toy and the real thing? Just my opinion of course . . . .

Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):
Should I worry .. ??

Nope. Nothing different than when I was a kid. One thing I despise is a 'parental unit' that shields a child from the realities of the world and then, bango - one day that child is off elsewhere and gets a rude wake up call. While we all like to think the world won't hurt us one day, best to be prepared if it decides to. Showing both sides of the fence is smart. Showing that war kills people - innocent people quite often - is the right things to do. I think your ex is over reacting (to all but my first para above). Tell her to relax . . . if you two were still married, you'd be doing the same thing. You're his Father, she can get over it or not.


Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
Take him on a Police Station tour.Show him how the Cops work.Get him to realise that Its Important to be on the right side.

I like that idea.

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 8):
Why? Is that where they keep the donuts?

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User currently offlineMiCorazonAzul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 746 times:

I'm sorry but a 10 year old reciting lines from Scar Face while pointing a toy gun to a friend is HIGHLY disturbing. I think you guys should probably do more normal 10 year old stuff and alittle less violence related type things. I don't know but I have a feeling you are training him for being in the armed forces or something in the future? I dunno if that's correct but it seems like it.

Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):
Should I worry .. ??

Uh yea, I'd say so. He's already pointing toy guns at other kids. Next thing you know he's torturing animals. And before you know it he's the next serial killer.

[Edited 2005-12-27 16:11:45]

User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 731 times:

ANCFyler: I'm not calling you out here AGM100 - just stating I think this was a particularly bad call . . . teaching bad habits. Rule #3 of Gun Safety: Don't let your muzzle cover anything you're not willing to destroy.


I am on the gun safety thing , that is the easy part . Somehow he just naturaly gravitated torward my interest in military stuff ,thats understandable. I still coach his football team and he plays baseball so its not like he dresses in black trench coats or anything. But I just wanted reactions from other parents on how they view it. I agree that it may be time to just expand the interests to other things. What I will tell you is he is the only 5th grader in his class that can point out Stalingrad on the map and tell you about the defeat of 6th Army!! Makes a Dad proud !!  cool 



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User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 725 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
Show him how the Cops work.

Sit around, read a lot in the car, while waiting on someone to drive by. Eat lunch, bitch about the supervisors, bitch about the administrative officers, bitch about the District Attorneys. That part about it being 99% pure boredom is spot on.

Quoting MiCorazonAzul (Reply 10):
I'm sorry but a 10 year old reciting lines from Scar Face while pointing a toy gun to a friend is HIGHLY disturbing.

Hardly, kids that age have good memories and the line was probably in a commercial on TV.

Quoting MiCorazonAzul (Reply 10):
Uh yea, I'd say so. He's already pointing toy guns at other kids.

Uh no, thats not uncommon at that age. He probably just doesn't know any better yet.

Quoting MiCorazonAzul (Reply 10):
Next thing you know he's torturing animals.

Did it hurt when you fell off the turnip truck? Pointing a toy gun at a friend is a LONG way from torturing animals at that age.

Just make sure the kid gets a sense of right and wrong, and some firearms safety might be a good thing as well. I wouldn't worry though, you haven't mentioned anything all that out of the ordinary for kids that age.


User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 718 times:

Well seen as you seem to have an interest in Aviation, why don't you get him interested in it to, like taking him down to the airport.

Every kid also has an interest in the military, I did, my nethew does etc. But you never know, he might grow out of the idea.

Just my  twocents 

Tom.



Tom Walker '086' First Officer of a A318/A319 for Air Lambert - Hours Flown: 17 hour 05 minutes (last updated 24/12/05).
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