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Wal-Mart: Good, Bad Or Evil?  
User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3347 posts, RR: 8
Posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3480 times:

I just watched Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Prices. A couple of highlights:


  • Wal-Mart will show employees how to sign up for WIC, Medi-Cal, PeachCare, etc. It's estimated that Wal-Mart costs taxpayers roughly $2 billion each year between Medicaide, free lunches for children, Section 8 housing, etc.
  • One Wal-Mart employee was told there was "no room for people like her" because she was a black woman.
  • Wal-Mart is shutting down Main Street USA.
  • Wal-Mart isn't paying overtime.
  • The Walton family gives $6,000 a year to a fund that assists Wal-Mart "associates" after a disaster. Wal-Mart employees give around $5 million a year. The Walton's contribution is the equivalent of the average hourly Wal-Mart employee giving $0.006.
  • Wal-Mart union busts like crazy.


What's your take on the above? Do you still shop at Wal-Mart?

AAndrew

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User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3011 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3469 times:

Well I never set foot in one and never will, if that answers your question...


Ghosts appear and fade away.....................
User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20494 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3459 times:

Wal-Mart is the epitome of unbridled capitalism. I don't shop there, though. A friend did, and when we went to hook up his new DVD purchase (another Wal-Mart bargain), the Wal-Mart version of the same TV available anywhere else didn't have the right A/V inputs, so he had to buy one of those converter units that Radio Shack advertised so much a couple of years ago (I always wondered why, since my TV from 1991 was DVD-capable). So you think you're getting a deal there sometimes, when you really aren't.


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User currently offlineExarmywarrant From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3447 times:

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
Wal-Mart will show employees how to sign up for WIC, Medi-Cal, PeachCare, etc. It's estimated that Wal-Mart costs taxpayers roughly $2 billion each year between Medicaide, free lunches for children, Section 8 housing, etc.

It's important to understand that Wal-Mart is, for most of the people you are talking about, an entry-level employer. It is a place people who are on welfare, medicaid, section 8, etc, can get into the system. Those people would often be a larger draw against the system if Wal-Mart had not given them a job.

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
One Wal-Mart employee was told there was "no room for people like her" because she was a black woman

Just 'cause one stupid employee may have said something stupid does not make it company policy. I have seen many, many minorities working at WM, and no one forced any of them to go to work there. Try going to one of them and telling them you are going to help them out by getting them fired. See what they say...

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
Wal-Mart is shutting down Main Street USA

No more than Sears, K-Mart, or any of the others before them...the world is just changing. Not WM's fault.

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
Wal-Mart isn't paying overtime

Of course they do, if the employee earns it. Most retail businesses schedule their employees to avoid overtime, as do lots of other businesses.

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
Wal-Mart union busts like crazy.

Then there must be a weakness in what the unions have to offer.


User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3443 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 2):
Wal-Mart is the epitome of unbridled capitalism.

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Power to the People!


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3427 times:

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
Wal-Mart will show employees how to sign up for WIC, Medi-Cal, PeachCare, etc. It's estimated that Wal-Mart costs taxpayers roughly $2 billion each year between Medicaide, free lunches for children, Section 8 housing, etc.

Your elected representatives wrote the laws that allow employers not to contribute to healthcare, etc. Vote them out.

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
One Wal-Mart employee was told there was "no room for people like her" because she was a black woman.

Are you saying there are no black people working at Walmart?

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
Wal-Mart is shutting down Main Street USA.

The shopping public has decided that they LIKE to do as much of their shopping in one place as possible and for low prices. I find that the supermarket is cheaper and quicker than going to a greengrocer, butcher, pharmacy, etc. seperately. Should I be forced to do it anyway?

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
Wal-Mart isn't paying overtime.

If it's illegal, file a complaint, and they can be prosecuted. If not, well, see earlier response about your elected officials.

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
The Walton family gives $6,000 a year to a fund that assists Wal-Mart "associates" after a disaster. Wal-Mart employees give around $5 million a year. The Walton's contribution is the equivalent of the average hourly Wal-Mart employee giving $0.006.

And how much money do the Waltons provide to all other charities (I have no idea)? This is too easy. Someone can criticise me for not giving a cent to the Red Cross, and simply not mention that I give a shitload of money to Doctors Without Borders.

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
Wal-Mart union busts like crazy.

Good. I hate organized unions. But locally organized collective bargaining and representation is good.


User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3421 times:

I agree Walmart is evil... I worked at 2 different stores between 11/04 - 8/05 and I was constantly treated like crap. My hard work never paid off, so I started slacking off.. Only then did they notice it, but if I worked my tail off, they never gave me anything to show for it. I like for the work I do to be appreciated, not ignored.. So when I moved back to Unloading at the Kenosha store, Things started looking pretty good, but the damage had been done. I quit 2 weeks later. Not my best decision as it did bring in a paycheck, but I could not take the abuse any longer.

My Best friend is a seasonal cashier who may be terminated at the end of the month. She is sick of the shit that goes on there as well, and she's only been there since September 2, 2005. I honestly hope she can get a job where they don't necessarily pay her more, but treat her better. The Pizza Hut on 39th/52nd treat their employees right. If I could, I would apply there, but the pay would not be nearly enough for me to pay bills/rent... But my best friend still lives w/ her parents, so I hope she makes a run for it. Personally, I believe the job she had before it was better.


User currently offlineExarmywarrant From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3412 times:

Quoting BR715-A1-30 (Reply 6):
agree Walmart is evil... I worked at 2 different stores between 11/04 - 8/05 and I was constantly treated like crap. My hard work never paid off, so I started slacking off.. Only then did they notice it, but if I worked my tail off, they never gave me anything to show for it. I like for the work I do to be appreciated, not ignored.. So when I moved back to Unloading at the Kenosha store, Things started looking pretty good, but the damage had been done. I quit 2 weeks later. Not my best decision as it did bring in a paycheck, but I could not take the abuse any longer.

My Best friend is a seasonal cashier who may be terminated at the end of the month. She is sick of the shit that goes on there as well, and she's only been there since September 2, 2005. I honestly hope she can get a job where they don't necessarily pay her more, but treat her better. The Pizza Hut on 39th/52nd treat their employees right. If I could, I would apply there, but the pay would not be nearly enough for me to pay bills/rent... But my best friend still lives w/ her parents, so I hope she makes a run for it. Personally, I believe the job she had before it was better.

Congratulations...that's the most whining I've ever seen crammed into only two paragraphs...

 Wink


User currently offlineLesMainwaring From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 542 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3408 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 2):
Wal-Mart is the epitome of unbridled capitalism.

Walmart is the epitome of abusive business practices. There is a way to make a buck without it being at the expense of its workers and manufacturers. Obviously not every business is a responsible corporate citizen, but from what i have read, Walmart is the poster child for explotation.

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User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3347 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3400 times:

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 3):

It's important to understand that Wal-Mart is, for most of the people you are talking about, an entry-level employer. It is a place people who are on welfare, medicaid, section 8, etc, can get into the system. Those people would often be a larger draw against the system if Wal-Mart had not given them a job.

Then why does Safeway have better pay and benefits? They are the same type of workers. One Wal-Mart employee was talking about the differences between Safeway (and the like) and Wal-Mart's health plan. On Safeway's plan, a prescription was $5. On Wal-Mart's, it was close to $70.

Wal-Mart's hourly wage in California is a tad over $10 an hour. At some unionized grocery stores in California the wages are close to $17 an hour.

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 3):

Just 'cause one stupid employee may have said something stupid does not make it company policy. I have seen many, many minorities working at WM, and no one forced any of them to go to work there. Try going to one of them and telling them you are going to help them out by getting them fired. See what they say...

Then why aren't they doing anything about it? One employee was called a ni****. He filed a report. No one was fired. No one was even reprimanded. There was a simulated lynching using a bike. No one was fired.

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 3):

No more than Sears, K-Mart, or any of the others before them...the world is just changing. Not WM's fault.

But Sears and K-Mart pay fair wages and have less control over suppliers, meaning the playing field is more level when competing with them.

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 3):

Of course they do, if the employee earns it. Most retail businesses schedule their employees to avoid overtime, as do lots of other businesses.

Wal-Mart loss prevention manger, 15 years: At one store, I have seen everyone except one general manager access the computer system with a fake login and move hours from week to week, to keep the hour count under 40.

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 3):

Then there must be a weakness in what the unions have to offer.

Yes, money. SEIU and UFCW can't spend $8 million to organize one Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart can (and does) pay that money at the faintest hint of a union drive.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):

Are you saying there are no black people working at Walmart?

Yes, they work there. But are they treated fairly? Of course there are black people at Wal-Mart! What kind of lawsuit would they have against them if they had a 0% black workforce in a community that was 50% black.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):

If it's illegal, file a complaint, and they can be prosecuted. If not, well, see earlier response about your elected officials.

There are huge lawsuits all over the country. There was $15 million dollar settlement in Coldorado earlier this year.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):

And how much money do the Waltons provide to all other charities (I have no idea)? This is too easy. Someone can criticise me for not giving a cent to the Red Cross, and simply not mention that I give a shitload of money to Doctors Without Borders.

1% of their total wealth (around $18 billion each) is contributed to charities. Compare that with 58% of Bill Gate's wealth.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):

Good. I hate organized unions. But locally organized collective bargaining and representation is good.

I don't think I would ever vote "yes" for a union, unless I was at Wal-Mart. They fight over silly things a lot of the times and often seem anxious to shut a company down (IAM with Eastern, AFA with United, etc).

That being said, so far, no one is protecting these employees. Someone has to, and it's going to come in the form of a union.

AAndrew


User currently offlineExarmywarrant From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3395 times:

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Quoting LesMainwaring (Reply 8):
Walmart is the poster child for explotation

No one has to work there, no one has to shop there...


User currently offlineLesMainwaring From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 542 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3389 times:

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 10):
No one has to work there, no one has to shop there...

Well, unfortunately sometimes people do have to work there. Sometimes there is very little choice except taking a crappy, low paying job or being homeless on the street. Sometimes you have to choose between two evils, like working at a job at Walmart or an equally demoralizing, demeaning job at, say, 7-11.

We don't always have choices. I seriously doubt most people who work at Walmart are happy, but I bet many of them feel trapped.

You are right about not having to shop there, I guess unless you don't have transportation and live next door to one. I don't shop there at all.

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User currently offlineExarmywarrant From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3386 times:

Quoting LesMainwaring (Reply 11):
Well, unfortunately sometimes people do have to work there. Sometimes there is very little choice except taking a crappy, low paying job or being homeless on the street. Sometimes you have to choose between two evils, like working at a job at Walmart or an equally demoralizing, demeaning job at, say, 7-11.

So you admit working at WM is better than having no job...sounds like a public service to me...

Quoting LesMainwaring (Reply 11):
I seriously doubt most people who work at Walmart are happy, but I bet many of them feel trapped.

I actually do know people who work there, ane they're perfectly fine with it. Would they like more money? Of course, who wouldn't. But they don't feel mistreated.

You are responding to a lot of union-started and media-spread prooganda. You oughta try going into one of their stores sometime and take a look.


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3382 times:

Wallmart is truely evil. I despise their store and hate them so much. Here in CEF land we just got a new one over the summer and its rediculous. Traffic delays on the main road are 10-15 mins at best,at worst, gun barrel in my mouth. police responding to the store atleast 2-3 times a day according to my scanner, fights over 20$ dvd players last thanksgiving, no more bussiness downtown or even in the multi-million dollara plaza the city had built...right next to the walmart.


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User currently offlineLesMainwaring From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 542 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3379 times:

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 12):
So you admit working at WM is better than having no job...sounds like a public service to me...

I never said that. What I said is that Walmart is a great corruptor. In a period where public assistance is greatly decreasing, it is incumbent upon employers, especially employers that do so well financially, to provide good working conditions, benefits and a living wage to their employees.

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 12):
I actually do know people who work there, ane they're perfectly fine with it.

Are these people able to make it on their salary, or do they work another job? Does their spouse work? Could they make a car payment, rent payment, put groceries on the table and have health care on their Walmart salary? Or is this just a second job, or a job to suppliment the job of the breadwinner of the family? Do they have health insurance through Walmart? Retirement? Or are they just working there to make a little extra folding money?

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 12):
You are responding to a lot of union-started and media-spread prooganda

You are responding to right wing propeganda from the likes of Rush Limbaugh.

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 12):
ou oughta try going into one of their stores sometime and take a look.

Been there, done that, didn't like it, won't be back

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I want something under my wheels thats plenty long and mighty dry --- Vern Demarest
User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3373 times:

It has its place.. Do not buy electronics from thier. But its great for lots of other stuff .. Who cares about thier employees they sure dont care about you when your in thier shopping..
Besides no one is forceing them to get jobs at WalMart... When you need a pay check Wal Mart can give you one. Thats it.



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User currently offlineExarmywarrant From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3366 times:

Quoting LesMainwaring (Reply 14):
Or is this just a second job, or a job to suppliment the job of the breadwinner of the family? Do they have health insurance through Walmart? Retirement? Or are they just working there to make a little extra folding money?

What's wrong with that? Not every job can (or should) be a family supporting job. Would you want to pay $8 for a burger at McDonalds so every kid flipping burgers could make $20/hour? Of course not. Why is WM different?

Everybody needs to start somewhere. WM is an entry level employer, for the most part. We need those.

By the way, I don't like Limbaugh...have'nt heard him in years...


User currently offlineLesMainwaring From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 542 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 16):
What's wrong with that?

What's wrong with paying a livable wage?

Where are people going to find good jobs, if not with the world's largest employer?

When I have been to Walmart, I haven't seen a lot of kids working there. What I do see are people like me that need to make a decent wage without working two or three jobs. What I see are welfare lines increasing, people working a job but still having to get foodstamps, people working but still having to go to free health clinics. I also see an uncaring system trying to cut these people off in a perverse form of genocide.

I don't know how the "greatest country on earth" can turn its back on its own citizens.

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 16):
By the way, I don't like Limbaugh...have'nt heard him in years...

And I haven't been influenced by union or media propaganda. I have been influenced by a religion that believes we help others out who are in need and that recogizes the modern day money changers in the temple.

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User currently offlineMiCorazonAzul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
Do you still shop at Wal-Mart?

I LOVE going to Wally World when I'm bored. I always manage to spend lots of money on stuff I don't need and will never use. Serves as a great stress reliever. Target seems to do the trick also.


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3349 times:

Quoting Aa757first (Thread starter):
Wal-Mart: Good, Bad Or Evil?

.....depends on the size of the line at the checkout counter.

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineExarmywarrant From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3343 times:

Quoting LesMainwaring (Reply 17):
And I haven't been influenced by union or media propaganda. I have been influenced by a religion that believes we help others out who are in need and that recogizes the modern day money changers in the temple

As have I...but the problem comes in determining a "living wage". One reason we are the greatest country in the world is our free enterprise system. I have been an employer in that system, and while I wanted to do the best for my employees, I also needed to make a profit.

The system determines how much labor, as well as product, is worth. As I pointed out, not everyone can start at the top. The competition in retail is fierce...pay too much an you're out of business and your employees are out of a job. Retail is not a good career choice for a breadwinner, we all know that.


User currently offlineLesMainwaring From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 542 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3340 times:

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 20):
"living wage"

well, i think there are statistics out there for that, basically anything above the federal poverty level

i'm not advocating $30,000 wages for clerks that ring up our underwear, it just makes me so sad to see good, honest people that have to work 2 jobs or more to barely ilk out a living.

there are more ways to pay someone, too, than with an actual salary. allow them to buy their groceries (non-alchohol or tobacco) at cost to feed their family. have a clinic set up for health care. give them substancial discounts on their prescriptions at the pharmacy.

but please, lets make sure everyone in this country that wants to be honest, wants to have a job, wants to work and be productive, can have even a shot at the american dream.

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User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3347 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 10):

No one has to work there, no one has to shop there...

People do have to work there. A Super Wal-Mart comes to town. First, the locally owned supermarket goes under because A) they pay their employees decently and B) because they can't get the retail goods cheaply enough. There goes that. Then the factory near Wal-Mart shuts down after years of trying to make goods cheaper, because they have to compete with China. Yes, Wal-Mart supports China instead of America. They have done it before the WTO. Wal-Mart vs America. Now, where do you go? You take a huge loss on health insurance and a $4 an hour paycut, plus a shitty working environment.

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 12):

So you admit working at WM is better than having no job...sounds like a public service to me...

No kidding. Being a prostitute is better than no job, right?

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 16):

What's wrong with that? Not every job can (or should) be a family supporting job. Would you want to pay $8 for a burger at McDonalds so every kid flipping burgers could make $20/hour? Of course not. Why is WM different?

Look at Wal-Mart's work force. They aren't 16 year old girls working to pay for concert tickets. They are middle aged people trying to support themselves.

And the fast food industry just pays less. Burger King, Wendy's, Taco Bell, their pay is all in the same neighborhood. When McDonald's comes in, they don't force down Burger King's wage. Wal-Mart forces down Publix's, Safeway's, Giant's, Pathmark's wages.

AAndrew


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39830 posts, RR: 74
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3324 times:

Glad I live in a Wal-Mart free city.
I hear nothing good about that company. I've only been in a Wal-Mart once (Las Vegas) and the story was a mess, items out of place, wrong price tags, staff knew nothing, lots of bad behaving kids and lots of opened/damaged items.
Costco and Target are much better stores than Wal-Mart.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3347 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3314 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 23):
I hear nothing good about that company.

The only good thing I can think of is their generous response to Hurricane Katrina. Unfortunately, their day to day business is not run like that.

AAndrew


25 Superfly : The whole world came together to help out including nations our government don't have good relations with.
26 Blrsea : Shouldn't the govt be imposing better minimum wages? I see people blaming walmart, but they are paying the minimum wage set by the state, and many peo
27 LesMainwaring : There is a better chance of building a snowman in Calcutta than that happening ...
28 Post contains links MaverickM11 : http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=5221 ""The High Cost of Low Prices" is the revealing title of a polemical documentary in which some of Wal-
29 LesMainwaring : A lot of people wanted segregation and Apartheid too, but didn't mean it was right
30 Jaysit : Uhh. Segregation and Apartheid were the law of the land. There was no other option - especially for those who bore the brunt of the system. Americans
31 LesMainwaring : ummm, yeah, and a lot of people resisted the change
32 LesMainwaring : oh, and before we use the 'pull yourself up by the bootstrap' card, lets also realize that answer isn't a one-size fits all.
33 DaddiesSecret : People [consumers] in the western world really need to grow up a little and realise that for pretty much every price drop in a supermarket someone som
34 Cadet57 : their no different, their 'product' may be differnet, but their purpose is no different, the almighty dollar. And what example does walmart set? Low
36 Cairo : Wal Mart is great and I very much appreciate the money they save me. I work for my money and enjoy spending it where and how I want. America does more
37 Jaysit : And you can resist shopping at Walmart if you want. But don't compare Walmart to apartheid or segregation which had no redeeming virtues to speak of.
38 ANCFlyer : Wal-Mart is fine. I get quite a lot of things there . . . we have three in ANC, and will have a 4th. Things I get there: Lightbulbs, socks, underwear,
39 Logan22L : True. No. Because it is above McDonald's. McD's is a place that should only appeal to kids and the occasional adult who has no other choice due to ti
40 767Lover : Here's what I don't get: At Christmas, among other negative rumblings, I had to hear from my uber-liberal dad about the evils of Wal-Mart. Okay, fine,
41 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Oh for f&#k's sake, you can choose NOT to shop at Walmart, you can choose NOT to work there, you can choose NOT to sell your products there. You can
42 MaverickM11 : Eh? McD's get that distinction because why?
43 767Lover : You do bring up a good point about the "Wal-Martization" of the airline industry. I don't see any recreational a-netters complaining about $29 fares
44 Post contains links 767Lover : ...through Wal-Mart, no less. http://www.walmartfoundation.org/wms...ucation.jsp?oid=-10260&coid=-10299 Wal-Mart does offer a health plan to associat
45 Texdravid : Amen. Well said, Jay.
46 Psa53 : Overall,good.I think WMT(NYSE), is getting bad rap.The media is pro-labor unions,anyway.There was a radio program, a couple of months ago call "The Bu
47 Aa757first : Are you kidding? You must be. Many, many work in Wal-Mart factories. I buy about 90% of my clothes from Patagonia now. Not because of their environme
48 PPVRA : That's the only thing that bothers me... I like smaller shops. It's nice to walk down a street full of different shops with their own distinct "style
49 PPVRA : Hmmm... and the alternative, a small shop, would afford all those benefits, right? FAs work in a stressful environment, spend extended periods of tim
50 767Lover : Starbucks is considered a corporate DARLING because they offer part timers a health plan. Yet, their product is pretty exclusive--how many low-income
51 LesMainwaring : Actually, i CHOOSE, as you so eloquently and emotionally put it, for f&#k's sake, to hope for these behemoths that rape our pocketbooks to be good co
52 Post contains links 767Lover : It is noble to do business only with companies that have the highest performance in the area of social responsibility. For those who feel that way, it
53 ANCFlyer : It's noble to get the best bang for my $$$ . . . so it matters not to me if I buy a pair of Nikes at Penney's or Wal-Mart . . . or a new truck from t
54 CasInterest : All those griping about wal mart and workers? Where are your gripes about Taco Bell? Mcdonalds? KMart? Target? Best Buy? They are all out there as par
55 MaverickM11 : Raping your pocketbook? How is Walmart raping YOUR pocketbook? What gets me riled up is that there isn't an iota of intelligent thought among the vas
56 PPVRA : So is Rolex.... BMWs, Audis.... but those are luxury items. They are certainly not excluded from Wal-Mart... if anything, Wal-Mart could save them a
57 Jaysit : I agree. However, that concept is now confined to upscale urban neighborhoods (or New York City) now, restricted to those who can afford to live ther
58 Post contains images ORFflyer : Me too. They are the primary reason a $10K dollar car cost $20K. The guy sweeping the floor in the plant is making $18.00/hr. And it just goes up fro
59 MaverickM11 : And you're doing a disservice to that cashier in the long run by ensuring they remain a cashier forever, without ever learning any other marketable s
60 Cfalk : Don't get me wrong. I am all for collective negotiations and worker representation, even right up to the Board of Directors. What I am against is any
61 Logan22L : No difficulty there, my friend. Thanks for the cleanclothes link; I didn't know about that.
62 Post contains links and images EA CO AS : Wal-Mart employees aren't required to pass a 10 year FBI background check to be hired though, nor do they deal with equipment worth tens of millions
63 Post contains images Jacobin777 : I don't understand why people are bashing WalMart ..if it is the "evil empire" then people shouldn't go shopping there and WalMat will cease to exist.
64 ORFflyer : That cashier is doing a disservise to his/her self. It's not the employers' responsibility to ensure that their employees can better themselves, it's
65 Aa757first : The Wal-Mart DVD. For the most part, the clerks at Wal-Mart are fine, from what I used to see. Yes, even the most rude clerk at Nordstrom's gave me b
66 ORFflyer : This is a source? Where can I get this DVD, and who produced it? Here we go again. You gotta back that up with a source. Where did you get that two-b
67 Post contains links Aa757first : www.BraveNewFilms.com House Committee on Education and Workforce. Why can union represented still offer goods at fair prices? I'd rather see us payin
68 Post contains images ORFflyer : "Cannot locate server" I've tried several times, no luck. I googled this, went to all the referenced sites, and searched within those. I cannot find
69 Usnseallt82 : Yes, Wal-Mart is the "epitome of unbridled capitalism" and signifies just about everything you ever wanted to hate about retail. But, their prices are
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