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NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.  
User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7197 posts, RR: 86
Posted (8 years 7 months 3 days ago) and read 1189 times:
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Sherman has been fired by GreenBay...wonder what Favre will do?

Martz has been fired by St Louis.

Hasslet has been fired by New Orleans.

As stated in other threads...

Capers fired by Houston.

Tice fired by Minnesota.

Vermell has retired as KC coach.

Rumor has is Reeves is in the pool for Houston job.

N. Edwards might leave NY Jets and come to KC.

Hasslet is a leading candidate for NY Jets job if that happens.

Thoughts, any more predictions?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5214578
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5214570
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5214670

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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1179 times:

Lets not feel to sorry for these guys most of them will land on their feet someplace else, as the coaches merry go round will continue. The only one that really surprised me was Hasslet with everything the Saints had to go through this year and a lack of a decent front office.

User currently offlineSleekjet From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2046 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1177 times:

How 'bout Bob Stoops coming to the Cowboys to replace a retiring Parcells?


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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1177 times:

Almost forgot, remember Detroit is also looking for a new coach, and they should also be looking for a new GM.

User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7197 posts, RR: 86
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1170 times:
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Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
How 'bout Bob Stoops coming to the Cowboys to replace a retiring Parcells?

That would be kick ass!  

I would love to see T. Owens in the #1 WR slot, with Terry Glenn and Keyshawn. You think Stoops could handle all these guys?

I thought that was pretty shitty to fire Tice...a guy that played, assisted, and coached a team for 13+ yrs. His team is to blame, but I know the responsibilty falls on the coach.

It would be easier to swallow if the damn owners name wasn't Ziggy.  Sad

[Edited 2006-01-02 22:39:28]

User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1162 times:

How about Mike Riley leaves Oregon State again for the NFL, and please all the boosters??? Please, Mike? PLEASE??? PLEASE leave Oregon State!!!!!

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1125 times:

Quoting FXramper (Reply 4):
Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
How 'bout Bob Stoops coming to the Cowboys to replace a retiring Parcells?

That would be kick ass!

I would love to see T. Owens in the #1 WR slot, with Terry Glenn and Keyshawn. You think Stoops could handle all these guys?

Only Parcells would be able to keep all those head-cases glued together....

I think Parcells will be back next season...



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1124 times:

I'm really surprised about Sherman. It's surprising because a couple of months ago Favre said he wouldn't stick around if there was a coaching change. Favre leaving the Packers could very well start a revolution that will send Wisconsin into anarchy.

User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7197 posts, RR: 86
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1104 times:
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Quoting Checkraiser (Reply 7):
Favre said he wouldn't stick around if there was a coaching change

so Sherman is gone, where do you see Favre next season? Raiders? Moss? Oh hell yeah!!! Baltimore? Where?


User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1102 times:

Personally I think Favre will be back. Ted Thompson called his bluff and Favre will sit on the fence as long as he can to remind Packers management that he still has some weight to throw around.

I really don't think Favre will play anywhere but Green Bay - but I'd love to see him in Dallas.


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13043 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1094 times:

It was a bad year for coaches in the NFL. Some were victims of bad Management decisions, others due to a bad run of injuries. Of course, it is easier to fire one coach rather than 'fire' a bunch of overpaid and weak players. In some cases (Tice for example) the teams need new tough displinarian bosses to keep the players on track not only on the field, but also off it. I would suggest that Coughlan of the NY Giants will probably be the model Minnesota and many other teams will follow.
One important factor that all teams that need to replace coaches will have to be careful with is the NFL mandate that requires teams to seriously consider Black men for the job openings. They just cannot use the 'old white coach' merry-go-round system anymore. Nor can they just do 'token' interviews with 1-2 black men just to cover then hire a rerun white man as coach. Fortuntally, there are a number of assistant coaches in the NFL that are qualified and should be seriouly considered. Look at Chicago for example this past year where an black man whom was a well respected and experienced assistant coach moved up to head coach, kicked butt in the league this year with a top defense and put the Bears in the playoffs for the first time in a number of years.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1093 times:

Hopefully Ralph Wilson will add Coach Mike Malarkey and GM Tom Donohoe top the list as well.

User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1084 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
Fortuntally, there are a number of assistant coaches in the NFL that are qualified and should be seriouly considered. Look at Chicago for example this past year where an black man whom was a well respected and experienced assistant coach moved up to head coach, kicked butt in the league this year with a top defense and put the Bears in the playoffs for the first time in a number of years.

Add Cincinnati, Indy, Jets (not this year) teams that have been successful with black coaches in the past couple of years building on the success of the Minnesota, and Oakland in the past. I can't believe that Dennis Green will be successful in Arizona, since that nothing more than a graveyard for coaches.


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1075 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
The only one that really surprised me was Hasslet with everything the Saints had to go through this year and a lack of a decent front office.

Haslett had been asking as long as four weeks ago to be let go. GM Mickey Loomis basically accomodated that desire.

That said, Haslett wasn't let go because of this year's 3-13 record, he was basically going to be given a pass on this year. It's more for the failures of the previous three seasons, in one of which all the Saints had to do to make the playoffs was win one of the last three games.....which they couldn't do.

The Saints latest problems basically started a few years years back when GM Jim Finks passed away. The competitive Jim Finks/Jim Mora days are long gone. They haven't been the same since.

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7197 posts, RR: 86
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1071 times:
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Heard this morning Al Davis is getting ready to fire Norv Turner in Oakland.

 Sad


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1068 times:

Quoting FXramper (Reply 14):
Heard this morning Al Davis is getting ready to fire Norv Turner in Oakland.

Why frown over this? Norv Turner is a good Offensive Coordinator. He sucks as a Head Coach


User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7197 posts, RR: 86
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1063 times:
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Quoting KROC (Reply 15):
Why frown over this?

Cause I like Al Davis as an owner, and I don't think it's Turner's fault the Raiders struggled so much...LaMont Jordan is no Larry Johnson, and who the hell is their QB?  Smile

I left out Marrucci of Detroit for fired coaches...Matt Millen is a freaking moron for this one...IMHO.


User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2446 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1060 times:

Well I'm a packer fan and I didnt expect Sherman to get the boot, now my guesses for head coach of the packers is going for Steve Marrucci or making Jim bates the head coach, maybe then Favre would decide to come back for 1 more year


Will you watch the Cleveland Browns and the Detroit Lions on Sunday? Only if coach Eric Mangini resigned after a loss.
User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1058 times:

Quoting FXramper (Reply 14):
Heard this morning Al Davis is getting ready to fire Norv Turner in Oakland.

Heard that as well on the radio down here. Also reported that Al Davis gets along well with Jim Haslett, so he might end up there. There are also Buffalo rumors regarding Haslett.

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1045 times:

Norv Turner would go 4-12 with the Colts. he just doesn't have the stuff to be a head coach. He had the talent for a better than 4-12 season...again.

I hope beyond all hope that Buffalo can land Jim Haslett. He is a solid guy and a hard working coach who's actual dream job is Buffalo. Ralph Wilson should just make it happen.


User currently offlineJ.mo From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1021 times:

Quoting FXramper (Reply 16):
Cause I like Al Davis as an owner, and I don't think it's Turner's fault the Raiders struggled so much...LaMont Jordan is no Larry Johnson, and who the hell is their QB?

YOU like Al Davis as an owner? WTF. I guess if you like a team to suck, more power to you. The coach is not the problem in Oakland, Alice is.

He fires Shanahan, Denver thanks him. Fires Gruden, Tampa thanks him. Who would want to coach there?

Raider Hater.



What is the difference between Fighter pilots and God? God never thought he was a fighter pilot.
User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6787 posts, RR: 34
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 4 hours ago) and read 999 times:

Quoting Checkraiser (Reply 7):
I'm really surprised about Sherman. It's surprising because a couple of months ago Favre said he wouldn't stick around if there was a coaching change.

That's not what he said at all, and that's something that's been blown way out of proportion. What Favre said, to paraphrase, was that he wasn't hot on learning a new offense or changing the system, which is what a new coach would likely do. Hence, he wouldn't want to go through that and would retire.

Ted Thompson made it clear--much to the anger of some Packers fans I'm sure--that Favre's a bright guy and he can adapt. He's a vet and can modify if needed. Some see that as a deliberate ouster of Favre; I see it as a smart GM who is *finally* putting the interests of the franchise and the entire organization over one man.

Sherman was a disaster as GM and wasn't much better as a coach...his gameday coaching was awful, preparation and game planning inconsistent, seldom made adjustments in-game or at the half as necessary, terrible clock management. The guy essentially rode Ahman Green, a consistent o-line (which he didn't assemble) to victory and Favre was his mealticket....the Packers won 3 division titles in what was the worst division in football, didn't even go to an NFC Title game, lost 2 playoff games at Lambeau, lost the homefield advantage, and was an unmitigated wreck overall.

I'm elated he's gone, and with him should be all his cronies--Tom Rossley, Frank Novak, etc, etc....

GB will be back and rebound. Ted Thompson is doing a very extensive search already.


User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 4 hours ago) and read 997 times:

Quoting FXramper (Reply 8):
where do you see Favre next season?

With GB. Favre won't like a new coach, but if it's someone respectable (Herman Edwards, Jim Hasslet) He'll be happier.

DON'T RETIRE BRETT! GB NEEDS YOU!!!!!!!!  Smile



Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7197 posts, RR: 86
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 3 hours ago) and read 992 times:
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Donahue is gone in Buffalo...Marv Levy has been brought back as a "special assistant."

Seems Herm Edwards is in final negotiations to take over at KC. Hasslet might go to the Jets if this happens.

Hookem Horns!!!  Smile


User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 3 hours ago) and read 991 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 19):
He is a solid guy and a hard working coach who's actual dream job is Buffalo.


 Wow! Aim high.  Wink


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