AirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1305 times:
Lets not feel to sorry for these guys most of them will land on their feet someplace else, as the coaches merry go round will continue. The only one that really surprised me was Hasslet with everything the Saints had to go through this year and a lack of a decent front office.
Checkraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 1250 times:
I'm really surprised about Sherman. It's surprising because a couple of months ago Favre said he wouldn't stick around if there was a coaching change. Favre leaving the Packers could very well start a revolution that will send Wisconsin into anarchy.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13282 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 1220 times:
It was a bad year for coaches in the NFL. Some were victims of bad Management decisions, others due to a bad run of injuries. Of course, it is easier to fire one coach rather than 'fire' a bunch of overpaid and weak players. In some cases (Tice for example) the teams need new tough displinarian bosses to keep the players on track not only on the field, but also off it. I would suggest that Coughlan of the NY Giants will probably be the model Minnesota and many other teams will follow.
One important factor that all teams that need to replace coaches will have to be careful with is the NFL mandate that requires teams to seriously consider Black men for the job openings. They just cannot use the 'old white coach' merry-go-round system anymore. Nor can they just do 'token' interviews with 1-2 black men just to cover then hire a rerun white man as coach. Fortuntally, there are a number of assistant coaches in the NFL that are qualified and should be seriouly considered. Look at Chicago for example this past year where an black man whom was a well respected and experienced assistant coach moved up to head coach, kicked butt in the league this year with a top defense and put the Bears in the playoffs for the first time in a number of years.
AirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 1210 times:
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10): Fortuntally, there are a number of assistant coaches in the NFL that are qualified and should be seriouly considered. Look at Chicago for example this past year where an black man whom was a well respected and experienced assistant coach moved up to head coach, kicked butt in the league this year with a top defense and put the Bears in the playoffs for the first time in a number of years.
Add Cincinnati, Indy, Jets (not this year) teams that have been successful with black coaches in the past couple of years building on the success of the Minnesota, and Oakland in the past. I can't believe that Dennis Green will be successful in Arizona, since that nothing more than a graveyard for coaches.
Tom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 1201 times:
Quoting AirCop (Reply 1): The only one that really surprised me was Hasslet with everything the Saints had to go through this year and a lack of a decent front office.
Haslett had been asking as long as four weeks ago to be let go. GM Mickey Loomis basically accomodated that desire.
That said, Haslett wasn't let go because of this year's 3-13 record, he was basically going to be given a pass on this year. It's more for the failures of the previous three seasons, in one of which all the Saints had to do to make the playoffs was win one of the last three games.....which they couldn't do.
The Saints latest problems basically started a few years years back when GM Jim Finks passed away. The competitive Jim Finks/Jim Mora days are long gone. They haven't been the same since.
Tom at MSY
"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
Mke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2488 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 7 hours ago) and read 1186 times:
Well I'm a packer fan and I didnt expect Sherman to get the boot, now my guesses for head coach of the packers is going for Steve Marrucci or making Jim bates the head coach, maybe then Favre would decide to come back for 1 more year
Will you watch the Cleveland Browns and the Detroit Lions on Sunday? Only if coach Eric Mangini resigned after a loss.
Slider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6956 posts, RR: 33
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1125 times:
Quoting Checkraiser (Reply 7): I'm really surprised about Sherman. It's surprising because a couple of months ago Favre said he wouldn't stick around if there was a coaching change.
That's not what he said at all, and that's something that's been blown way out of proportion. What Favre said, to paraphrase, was that he wasn't hot on learning a new offense or changing the system, which is what a new coach would likely do. Hence, he wouldn't want to go through that and would retire.
Ted Thompson made it clear--much to the anger of some Packers fans I'm sure--that Favre's a bright guy and he can adapt. He's a vet and can modify if needed. Some see that as a deliberate ouster of Favre; I see it as a smart GM who is *finally* putting the interests of the franchise and the entire organization over one man.
Sherman was a disaster as GM and wasn't much better as a coach...his gameday coaching was awful, preparation and game planning inconsistent, seldom made adjustments in-game or at the half as necessary, terrible clock management. The guy essentially rode Ahman Green, a consistent o-line (which he didn't assemble) to victory and Favre was his mealticket....the Packers won 3 division titles in what was the worst division in football, didn't even go to an NFC Title game, lost 2 playoff games at Lambeau, lost the homefield advantage, and was an unmitigated wreck overall.
I'm elated he's gone, and with him should be all his cronies--Tom Rossley, Frank Novak, etc, etc....
GB will be back and rebound. Ted Thompson is doing a very extensive search already.