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Moving From Texas To Seattle...Advise?  
User currently offlineLY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 858 posts, RR: 15
Posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3202 times:

First off, I've decided to leave my job in Texas and move to Seattle and work for Boeing.

Everyone here seems to be saying "Oh, Seattle! Fun!" and then in the same breath "Oh, it rains all the time...they have a lot of suicides." Or something that "you'll need to go to a tanning place to get sunlight". Is this true?

I spent a summer working for Boeing and the weather was fantastic (I know, key word - summer). I'm a native New Yorker so I am used to the cold and dreary winter days (although not as persistent as Seattle's), but I've certainly been spoiled by the warmer weather here in Dallas in the winter months.

Any advise from those in Seattle or similar climates? Any tricks on beating the blues?

Matt


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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3197 times:

You should find Seattle's weather nicer than New York on just about any given day of the year. Philadelphia, Cincinnati and Memphis all get more rain than Seattle. It rains frequently in Seattle, but just not very much, or not for very long. You may find it overcast for fairly lengthy periods - a few weeks or so. If that bothers you, hop in your car and drive up Snoqualmie pass or somewhere and get some sunshine.

I found the traffic to be more of an issue. Fortunately I didn't have to deal with it except when shopping, but I-5 and its branches are pretty crowded.

Fairly expensive. Good living there, though. I still like to go from time to time just for the sights and the activities.



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User currently offlineLY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 858 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3193 times:

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 1):
I found the traffic to be more of an issue. Fortunately I didn't have to deal with it except when shopping, but I-5 and its branches are pretty crowded.

Fairly expensive. Good living there, though. I still like to go from time to time just for the sights and the activities.

I've heard of the famed Seattle traffic and the fact that they apparently drive UNDER the speed limit as opposed to Dallas where 10-15mph ABOVE it is the norm.

I'll be commuting from Seattle to Everett, so I'll be doing a counter commute, but I'd imagine it'll have its bad days just like anywhere else.

Does Vancouver see any more sun than Seattle?



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40076 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3189 times:

LY4XELD:
Congrats on the job at Boeing!  bigthumbsup 
Congrats on getting out of Texas!
Congrats on moving to Seattle!

Sounds like a step up.
Say hello to Scarlotharlot & We're Nuts when you get there.  Cool



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User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3188 times:

Quoting LY4XELD (Reply 2):
I'll be commuting from Seattle to Everett, so I'll be doing a counter commute, but I'd imagine it'll have its bad days just like anywhere else.

I'd recommend looking for a place in Everett (Snohomish county) where taxes are a little cheaper. Avoid living in King County if you can. There has been a lot of development of single family homes and townhomes in south Everett, where I live, which is right off 128th/Airport Rd. which you will drive on to get to Boeing.

Quoting LY4XELD (Reply 2):
Does Vancouver see any more sun than Seattle?

They both have very similar climates.


User currently offlineLentigomaligna From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3188 times:

Quoting LY4XELD (Thread starter):
Everyone here seems to be saying ... "Oh, it rains all the time...they have a lot of suicides." Or something that "you'll need to go to a tanning place to get sunlight". Is this true?

Despite how hard it's raining at this very moment, this reputation is a bit undeserved. The rain's never been bothersome for me, though it does get overcast quite often. This is the trade-off for the temperate climate. If you like the Texas heat and sun (which I don't) you'll be disappointed.

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 1):
I found the traffic to be more of an issue.

        

Seattle's no SoCal in terms of traffic, but it's close.



[Edited 2006-01-05 21:00:43]

User currently offlineLY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 858 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3173 times:

Quoting Lentigomaligna (Reply 5):
If you like the Texas heat and sun (which I don't) you'll be disappointed.

I've learned to call it simply "The Hot". And when The Hot is here, it's here to stay. I do enjoy the summer in Seattle. And from what I've heard and seen, when it is nice, it's really nice.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
LY4XELD:
Congrats on the job at Boeing!
Congrats on getting out of Texas!
Congrats on moving to Seattle!

Thanks!  spin 
I'm nervous and anxious and excited (I get to work on the 787!) and nauseus at the same time but I think it will be a good thing Big grin



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17829 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3170 times:

Quoting LY4XELD (Thread starter):
Any advise

I think a last minute trip to Buenos Aires would really ease the transition  Silly.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offline777DadandJr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1516 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3169 times:

Quoting LY4XELD (Thread starter):
First off, I've decided to leave my job in Texas and move to Seattle and work for Boeing.

Matt, you lucky da*n dog! I was in Seattle for only 4 days, and was ready to move there from Pa. Unfortunately, I'm not lucky enough to have a Boeing job waiting for me.
The weather when we were there (June 05) was pretty good. We left the East coast, and it was 90 and humid, and arrived in Seattle to a pleasant 70 and clear. It rained only one day when we were there. That was the Monday that we went up to Everett for the Boeing tour. Traffic wasn't too bad. We stayed near SEA-TAC and went to Everett via the I-405. Luckily, we had three people in the car, so we were able to travel the whole way in the diamond lane!  bigthumbsup  that was a real time saver. We left to go there about 8:30am, so rush hour was at full tilt. I have to concure with Slamclick though, the traffic seemed to be an issue just about everywhere we saw, especially the I-5. that's why we chose to go on the 405 instead. Only took us a little more than an hour to get there, and that was in the rain.
As far as the city goes, like I said, I was ready to move there after a four day visit. One guy told us that the rain thing is a misconception. Because Seattle is not on the coast, alot of the rain actually gets wrung out of the clouds as they come over the coastal mountains. Yes, Philly does get more rain per year than Seattle.
Anyway, that's my  twocents .
I envy you. I hope you have a great move and find seattle to be a place to call home.

Russ!



My glass is neither 1/2 empty nor 1/2 full, rather, the glass itself is twice as big as it should be.
User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4287 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3166 times:

One of my friends and former coworkers just moved from Dallas to Seattle to work for Boeing  Smile She absolutely loves it up there. Rents are going to be higher than in Dallas or Houston, but I don't know by how much. Visit the flagship REI store up there, it is absolutely amazing! Good luck

Texan



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User currently offlineLY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 858 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3162 times:

Thanks for the advise, everyone!

Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 8):
I envy you. I hope you have a great move and find seattle to be a place to call home.

I'm dreading the move. Moving with my cats will be interesting!

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 7):
I think a last minute trip to Buenos Aires would really ease the transition .

Perhaps Big grin

Quoting Texan (Reply 9):
Rents are going to be higher than in Dallas or Houston, but I don't know by how much. Visit the flagship REI store up there, it is absolutely amazing! Good luck

Thanks! I found rents to be slightly higher, but it's real estate that's crazy. I own a condo in Dallas now and it'd be at least twice as much to purchase the same place in Seattle!

Ok...I think I'm feeling better that I won't be hurling myself off the nearest bridge!  Smile



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User currently offlineStuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3153 times:

Quoting LY4XELD (Thread starter):
Moving From Texas To Seattle...Advise?

Do you mean "advice"?

Stay in Texas.


User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3150 times:

Hey LY4XELD, welcome!

Unless you are really into the city lifestyle I suggest you take StevenUhl777's suggestion and consider an apartment further north. If you commute from Seattle, you will be doing a reverse commute, but around here the reverse commutes can be almost as bad as the regular ones. Also consider that thousands of people work at the Everett facility and that work hours tend to be pretty defined so I think you can get bad traffic coming and going around the plant. Apartments will also be cheaper a bit further north out of the city. Consider Lynnwood, South Everett, Edmonds, Brier, Mill Creek, or Bothell. Even Snohomish is not too bad, you can just scoot in on highway 2.

Your cats will be fine. Are you going to drive or fly them up? Hopefully they are already indoor-only cats. We do have coyotes and other critters around here that are not good for outdoor cats.

Yes, it does rain. Yes, it is pretty damned gray from about November through May. And it rains from mid-October through July 4. We get very few thunderstorms and it doesn't usually rain hard. It just tends to mist. One year not too long ago we had 93 days straight where it rained every day. Not all day every day, you understand, but at least some rain every day. That was a bit hard to deal with. The gray can get you down, but then that's the price we pay for the forests and lakes. And if it really gets you down, a flight to Phoenix or Hawaii is not that expensive. I try to get away in February or March just to get rejuvenated.

There really are few places more beautiful than Seattle in the summertime. July 5 through mid-October are just beautiful.

We moved out here from Southern Ontario when we were 23, fresh out of school, and have been here over ten years now. It's a great city. You'll also find that everybody is from somewhere else. I haven't come across many born and breds.

Good luck with your move! Let us know when you get up here and maybe we can get an A.nutters dinner together, or something.



But that was when I ruled the world
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17829 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3144 times:

Quoting LY4XELD (Reply 10):
Moving with my cats will be interesting!

Eh just leave 'em. They're resilient.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineLY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 858 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3140 times:

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 12):

Thanks! My cats are indoor cats, and they'll be flying with me up to Seattle. I just want to keep the stress level to a minimum.

I'm tending to want to live closer to Seattle itself. I don't want to live downtown, but I heard good things about the Green Lake area 'cept that it's expensive.

I remember July 4 in Seattle when I was there in 2001 being quite cool...I had to wear a sweatshirt and people were "bundling up" (for July 4, it was bundling) to watch the fireworks on Elliott bay.

Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 11):
Do you mean "advice"?

Sorry, one of my typos that is hard to see 'cause they both look right.



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User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1734 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3128 times:

Quoting LY4XELD (Reply 14):
I'm tending to want to live closer to Seattle itself.

Unless your politics lean way to the left, anywhere south of Snohomish County will drive you nuts.

Tod
(ex-Burien guy, much happier in Stanwood)


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3123 times:

Good luck and congrats on your move. I've lived all over the country, and I keep heading back to Seattle. I can't think of place that offers a better combination of city, access to the outdoors, culture, etc.

Quoting LY4XELD (Reply 2):
I've heard of the famed Seattle traffic and the fact that they apparently drive UNDER the speed limit as opposed to Dallas where 10-15mph ABOVE it is the norm.

The only reason people drive under the limit in Seattle is because the traffic is backed up. You'll find that if there is an open stretch, they'll floor it. I used to commute from Seattle to Lakewood (S. of Tacoma) and the average speed was 70.

Quoting LY4XELD (Reply 2):
I'll be commuting from Seattle to Everett, so I'll be doing a counter commute, but I'd imagine it'll have its bad days just like anywhere else.

Actually there is no good day on that stretch of I-5. You won't have it as bad as the folks going the other way, but I-5 from Everett to Seattle is now #1 or #2 in the nation for backups, stock up on CDs for your car!

As for where you live it all depends on what type of lifestyle you want. I personally can't stand the suburbs (livedin Fed Way for 2 years), and when we move back this spring, we're targeting Ravena, Green Lake, Sand Point area. These provide great established (1920s) neighborhoods, easy access to both downtown and I-5, and moderate (for Seattle) home prices.



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3509 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3102 times:

Quoting Tod (Reply 15):
Unless your politics lean way to the left, anywhere south of Snohomish County will drive you nuts.

Nonsense! Try Bellevue...

I wouldn't worry too much about the weather, just as SlamClick said, it just rains a little bit a lot of the time. The winters are pretty gray around here, but anyone that's lived here for any length of time will tell you that the summers in Seattle make the dismal winters worth living through...simply amazing. I've lived in the Puget Sound region my entire life and wouldn't want to live anywhere else, it's fantastic.

If nothing else, it's a great place to live if you like aviation!



Next Flight: 9/17 BFI-BFI
User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1734 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3093 times:

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 17):
Quoting Tod (Reply 15):
Unless your politics lean way to the left, anywhere south of Snohomish County will drive you nuts.

Nonsense! Try Bellevue...

You are correct, east of Lake Washington is a little better politically.
Affording to live in Belleveue is another issue.

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 17):
I've lived in the Puget Sound region my entire life and wouldn't want to live anywhere else

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Seen every continent but Antartica in the last few years and still like here best of all.

Tod


User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3509 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3089 times:

Quoting Tod (Reply 18):
You are correct, east of Lake Washington is a little better politically.

I didn't say it was better, just more conservative.  Wink

Quoting Tod (Reply 18):
Affording to live in Belleveue is another issue.

Very true. Woodinville/Bothell is quite a bit more affordable, but commuting to Seattle from the eastside is kind of a drag.



Next Flight: 9/17 BFI-BFI
User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3087 times:

Quoting Tod (Reply 15):
Unless your politics lean way to the left, anywhere south of Snohomish County will drive you nuts.

Or you could turn it around and say unless you like suburban Republicans, anything north of Northgate will drive you nuts.  Wink

Seriously, Seattle is no more/less liberal than any other city out there. I know plenty of 'bunny huggers' up in Monroe, and plent of NRA members on Capitol Hill (both wild generalizations I know).



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3047 times:

Pack an umbrella. We'll visit the Museum of Flight sometime.

Oh, and summers are usually on a Thursday, so keep an eye on the weather page.

Until you get here, study these "jokes". They describe us perfectly:

The Pacific Northwest According To Jeff Foxworthy

1. You know the state flower (mildew).

2. You feel guilty throwing aluminum cans or paper in the trash.

3. Use the statement "sun break" and know what it means.

4. You know more than 10 ways to order coffee.

5. You know more people who own boats than air conditioners.

6. You feel overdressed wearing a suit to a nice restaurant.

7. You stand on a deserted corner in the rain waiting for the "Walk" signal.

8. You consider that if it has no snow or has not recently erupted, it is not a real mountain.

9. You can taste the difference between Starbucks, Seattle's Best, and Veneto's.

10. You know the difference between Chinook, Coho, and Sockeye Salmon.

11. You know how to pronounce Sequim, Puyallup, Issaquah, Oregon, Yakima, and Willamette.

12. You consider swimming an indoor sport.

13. You can tell the difference between Japanese, Chinese, and Thai food.

14. In winter, you go to work in the dark and come home in the dark - while only working eight-hour days.

15. You never go camping without waterproof matches and a poncho.

16. You are not fazed by "Today's forecast: showers followed by rain," and "Tomorrow's forecast: rain followed by showers."

17. You have no concept of humidity without precipitation.

18. You know that Boring is a town in Oregon and not just a state of mind.

19. You can point to at least two volcanoes, even if you cannot see through the cloud cover.

20. You notice, "The mountain is out" when it is a pretty day and you can actually see it.

21. You put on your shorts when the temperature gets above 50, but still wear your hiking boots and parka.

22. You switch to your sandals when it gets about 60, but keep the socks on.

23. You have actually used your mountain bike on a mountain.

24. You think people who use umbrellas are either wimps or tourists.

25. You buy new sunglasses every year, because you cannot find the old ones after such a long time.

26. You measure distance in hours.

27. You often switch from "heat" to "a/c" in the same day.

28. You design your kid's Halloween costume to fit under a raincoat.

29. You know all the important seasons: Almost Winter, Winter, Still Raining (Spring), Road Construction (Summer), Deer & Elk Season (Fall).



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User currently offlineSkywatch From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 923 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3036 times:

LEAVE TEXAS?! Oh...North Texas. I am not too keen on that area myself. (love Austin and the Hill Country!) Have fun with Boeing up in Seattle. From what I have heard it's pretty nice up there. At least you won't have to worry about watering your yard....in January!

----Skywatch



------Forever Watchin' The Sky------
User currently offlineB2707SST From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 1371 posts, RR: 59
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3023 times:

Quoting We're Nuts (Reply 21):
Until you get here, study these "jokes". They describe us perfectly:

Those are hilarious but eerily true... I'm good for at least 25 of the 29, and I don't even drink coffee!


Seattle in the winter can be a little depressing for some people (the current streak is a good example), but I've never had it get to me. Catching glimpses of the mountains or downtown Seattle skyscrapers through the mist is just part of the charm.

The rain and clouds do pay off in the end; Seattle summers are the best I've seen anywhere. As ScarlotHarlot said, summer here runs from early July to late September and sometimes into October, almost like clockwork. Expect mid-70s to mid-80s, pleasantly cool evenings, low humidity, and sunshine almost every day. Unlike most other parts of the country, grass and trees usually stay vivid green through the summer.

My favorite thing about the area is probably our mountains. If you're at all interested in hiking, camping, skiing, geology, vulcanology, etc., it's a paradise. Mt. Rainier is simply awe-inspiring, especially on a hot mid-summer day when those immense glaciers are still cold and gleaming white. You should have good views of Mt. Baker and maybe Glacier Peak from the Everett area as well, and on a very clear day from a tall building or a hilltop, you might see Mt. St. Helens sending up a steam plume on the southern horizon.



Boeing's latest baby passing by Mt. Rainier


The other big problem here is of course the traffic. I-5 and I-405 are usually a nightmare in either direction during rush hour, as are the floating bridges across the lake; God help you if there's a wreck on the 520 bridge. If you plan to live in Seattle, you might think about the Sounder commuter train between Seattle and Everett. Ridership is apparently not good, though, so it may not be very convenient. If you can find a place, living in Snohomish County is cheaper (taxes, cost of living) and would allow a much faster commute.

--B2707SST



Keynes is dead and we are living in his long run.
User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3017 times:
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Quoting LY4XELD (Thread starter):
Any advise from those in Seattle or similar climates? Any tricks on beating the blues?

I live in the downtown area, Belltown, but the traffic is not really an issue for me. I'm going in the opposite direction to where the heavy traffic is

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 12):
Consider Lynnwood, South Everett, Edmonds, Brier, Mill Creek, or Bothell. Even Snohomish is not too bad, you can just scoot in on highway 2.

Consider Shoreline, and Kenmore too. south of Lynnwood, and has somewhat better affordability compared to most of the rest of the area as far as rentals. Luckily, this year, King County relinquished the silly moronrail tax which brings the car reg fee back down to the statewide level. Enjoy living here, it grows on you like moss, and won't want to leave.



Made from jets!
25 Post contains images Ctbarnes : Welcome to my hometown! First off, it dosen't rain as much in Seattle as we tell the Californians. Seriously though, July to October make the grey dri
26 ScarletHarlot : Here's another cool thing about living in Seattle. That same plane flew just east of my house today, quite low, on its way from BFI to PAE. Now THAT
27 DLKAPA : Move back.
28 Wobbles : Even though it is far away from the rest of my family, I live in the PNW (PDX area) since the scenery here is unbelievable. The rain can get old, but
29 Gunsontheroof : Well put.
30 Tod : If you are coming into Boeing Everett from the north, traffic on I-5, just before the exit can be a drag. Get an early start schedule if you can, lat
31 Charlib52 : Welcome to the best city in the country!! (OK, I'm a totally biased Seattle native, everyone knows this..) But still, WELCOME! Only the immediate area
32 Mham001 : Dont let them fool you, the weather is that bad. Not the most in amount, but easily the most days of rain per year. After 20 years, I happily left. We
33 Post contains images Tod : Plenty is kind of a strong word for the less than 20 percent of the population that vote against Congressman (Baghdad) Jim McDermott ever time around
34 Post contains images LY4XELD : Wow, I didn't go online much this weekend and didn't realize people were still posting on my thread! Thanks! I've accepted the fact that although I'l
35 ScarletHarlot : 23 days straight of rain. Woo! This is not what I love about Seattle. We are having mudslides now, since it has rained so much. It POURED last night.
36 Post contains images Ctbarnes : Why should we in the Bay Area have all the fun Charles, SJ
37 Daedaeg : I've lived out this way for just over a year now. Currently work for Boeing as well. Let me be real with you. The weather does suck most of the year.
38 Post contains images SlamClick : Okay, but was it dry rain or an actual "wet" rain? You know, were you tempted to run to-from your car? What you really need to know about Seattle: co
39 ScarletHarlot : Yesterday it was wet rain - I did run from the car into the grocery store. Looks like more of the same today! I woke up this morning to no power. I d
40 Searpqx : Weather report says 7 more days. My friends on Vashon are on slide alert for their cabin - the whole NW slope is unstable and waterlogged.
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