Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52 Posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1892 times:
If alcohol had just been invented, do you think that its consumption would be prohibited? It can be, after all, a very serious mind-altering drug with numerous potentially very dangerous and tragic consequences. I suspect that it could be, in extreme cases, worse than almost all other drugs.
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Leezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1821 times:
Cigarettes would certainly be banned as Tobacco is a class A narcotic. Just the government would never do this as they would loose too much money from tax.
They should seriously look into legalising some other drugs though. They will never be able to stop people taking them, so may as well get some tax revenue from the sale of them and also would improve the quality of what is on sale.
Thing that amazes me is that hundreds of thousands die each year from cigarettes and alchohol related problems, but death from drugs is in the low hundreds, and yet the ones that kill more people are legal.
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Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1815 times:
Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 6): Thing that amazes me is that hundreds of thousands die each year from cigarettes and alchohol related problems, but death from drugs is in the low hundreds, and yet the ones that kill more people are legal.
The issue with that logic is that tobacco is not a drug that modifies behaviour. Alcohol modifies behaviour, but only in fairly large quantities. It is possible to drink without getting drunk. The PURPOSE of drinking or smoking is not to alter your perception of reality (unless you are in college .
On the other hand, drugs from pot to heroin are intended to alter your perception of reality. You can't smoke a joint without it effecting how you drive your car. Coke definately changes your behaviour, etc.
Greasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3086 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1813 times:
They are not talking about banning it now....wht the originel poster was saying what if it was just invented now...NO one would have a history with it .....no lost revenue.....so yeah i think it would be banned like drugs...
Does not alter reality....????What about all the dumb things guys do when drunk.....And as for women look at all the hot women going home with ugly guys cause they are to drunk to see what scuds they really are...
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SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1794 times:
There are only two offenses.
1. Being broke is a misdemeanor.
2. Failure to get Government permission is a felony.
The consequences of violating either one are minimal so long as you are not guilty of violating the other.
Violate them both and you will do hard time!
If, as the Surgeon General (the US Government's health EXPERT) says, cigarettes cause cancer, then cigarettes are an etiologic agent, arguably a weapon of mass destruction and the dissemination of cigarettes is a terrorist act.
Similar arguments could be made against my personal drugs, varietal wines and strong coffees.
The really interesting corkscrew logic is that the Government will not legalize (and TAX) marijuana because it might be construed as the Government endorsing the product. Well, okay then how does that logic apply to the carcinogens in cigarettes?
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AsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1788 times:
Recently, many new recreational drugs have been legal to make and use until enough people die to bring it to the limelight. GHB is a good example.
Ten years ago, I used to buy DIY kits for making GHB from Canada. They came via Canada Post and US Postal Service and the customs declaration labels clearly stated what they were. And, of course, they were stamped "OK" or "passed" by US Customs.
Then people started dying and women started to get raped. In the blink of an eye, GHB was a Schedule I narcotic.
Without a doubt, alcohol and tobacco would be somewhere on the Controlled Substances Act list if they weren't grandfathered in due to popularity and social acceptance. Who knows where they'll be in twenty years. Maybe they'll be illegal.
CPH757 From Denmark, joined Sep 2005, 684 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1769 times:
Great question. Have often wondered myself
It would probably be, unless we were able to overlook the addictive consequences. Facts are that many drink alcohol now and then, but aren't addicted, and the volume is harmless, so their health is not threatened. Among smokers, a much higher percentage are affected somehow in terms of health, due to the amount of the drug used.
Scary to imagine that you can only buy alcohol on the black market. Kind of imagining that you are an American youngster
Quoting Kevinl1011 (Reply 3): Ireland would become the "Amsterdam" for drinkers. F'n Irish wouldn't allow it to happen!
Well, the Irish housewives somehow figured out how to get the pubs closed at 11pm. What do you think their next move will be?
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Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1744 times:
Quoting Greasespot (Reply 8): Does not alter reality....????What about all the dumb things guys do when drunk.....And as for women look at all the hot women going home with ugly guys cause they are to drunk to see what scuds they really are...
But you don't have to get drunk. It is perfectly possible to have one or two glasses of wine or beer without getting trashed.
If you smoke a joint, however, you WILL be noticably affected. Anyone who says they are not affected is smoking more than just occasionally.