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If Alcohol Had Just Been Invented... Banned?  
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19246 posts, RR: 52
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1878 times:

If alcohol had just been invented, do you think that its consumption would be prohibited? It can be, after all, a very serious mind-altering drug with numerous potentially very dangerous and tragic consequences. I suspect that it could be, in extreme cases, worse than almost all other drugs.


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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8603 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1875 times:
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without a doubt it would be illegal , fortunately for those of us who do like a drop or two governments get so much revenue from alcohol that they will never do it now


Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19246 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1869 times:

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 1):
fortunately for those of us who do like a drop or two governments get so much revenue from alcohol that they will never do it now

Indeed! The revenue generation idea gives it a nice spin...



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineKevinl1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 47
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1863 times:

Ireland would become the "Amsterdam" for drinkers. F'n Irish wouldn't allow it to happen!


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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8603 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1862 times:
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Quoting Kevinl1011 (Reply 3):
Ireland would become the "Amsterdam" for drinkers. F'n Irish wouldn't allow it to happen!

I dunno , they said the Irish would never allow non-smoking pubs to happen and it did , maybe they will go to no-alcohol pubs as well - the ultimate Irish joke  Wink



Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
User currently offlineKevinl1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 47
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

Quoting Kevinl1011 (Reply 3):
F'n Irish wouldn't allow it to happen!

Being of Irish decent...I stand by my statement.



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User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1807 times:

Cigarettes would certainly be banned as Tobacco is a class A narcotic. Just the government would never do this as they would loose too much money from tax.

They should seriously look into legalising some other drugs though. They will never be able to stop people taking them, so may as well get some tax revenue from the sale of them and also would improve the quality of what is on sale.

Thing that amazes me is that hundreds of thousands die each year from cigarettes and alchohol related problems, but death from drugs is in the low hundreds, and yet the ones that kill more people are legal.

 Smile



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1801 times:

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 6):
Thing that amazes me is that hundreds of thousands die each year from cigarettes and alchohol related problems, but death from drugs is in the low hundreds, and yet the ones that kill more people are legal.

The issue with that logic is that tobacco is not a drug that modifies behaviour. Alcohol modifies behaviour, but only in fairly large quantities. It is possible to drink without getting drunk. The PURPOSE of drinking or smoking is not to alter your perception of reality (unless you are in college  Smile.

On the other hand, drugs from pot to heroin are intended to alter your perception of reality. You can't smoke a joint without it effecting how you drive your car. Coke definately changes your behaviour, etc.


User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3085 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1799 times:

They are not talking about banning it now....wht the originel poster was saying what if it was just invented now...NO one would have a history with it .....no lost revenue.....so yeah i think it would be banned like drugs...



Does not alter reality....????What about all the dumb things guys do when drunk.....And as for women look at all the hot women going home with ugly guys cause they are to drunk to see what scuds they really are...  wink 

GS



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19246 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1797 times:

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 8):
look at all the hot women going home with ugly guys

Well, you have to get laid somehow, don't you, Greasespot?  Silly



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1780 times:

There are only two offenses.

1. Being broke is a misdemeanor.
2. Failure to get Government permission is a felony.

The consequences of violating either one are minimal so long as you are not guilty of violating the other.

Violate them both and you will do hard time!

If, as the Surgeon General (the US Government's health EXPERT) says, cigarettes cause cancer, then cigarettes are an etiologic agent, arguably a weapon of mass destruction and the dissemination of cigarettes is a terrorist act.

Similar arguments could be made against my personal drugs, varietal wines and strong coffees.

The really interesting corkscrew logic is that the Government will not legalize (and TAX) marijuana because it might be construed as the Government endorsing the product. Well, okay then how does that logic apply to the carcinogens in cigarettes?

(sound of crickets)



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1774 times:

Recently, many new recreational drugs have been legal to make and use until enough people die to bring it to the limelight. GHB is a good example.

Ten years ago, I used to buy DIY kits for making GHB from Canada. They came via Canada Post and US Postal Service and the customs declaration labels clearly stated what they were. And, of course, they were stamped "OK" or "passed" by US Customs.

Then people started dying and women started to get raped. In the blink of an eye, GHB was a Schedule I narcotic.

Without a doubt, alcohol and tobacco would be somewhere on the Controlled Substances Act list if they weren't grandfathered in due to popularity and social acceptance. Who knows where they'll be in twenty years. Maybe they'll be illegal.

Mark


User currently offlineCPH757 From Denmark, joined Sep 2005, 684 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1755 times:

Great question. Have often wondered myself  Smile

It would probably be, unless we were able to overlook the addictive consequences. Facts are that many drink alcohol now and then, but aren't addicted, and the volume is harmless, so their health is not threatened. Among smokers, a much higher percentage are affected somehow in terms of health, due to the amount of the drug used.

Scary to imagine that you can only buy alcohol on the black market. Kind of imagining that you are an American youngster  wink 

Quoting Kevinl1011 (Reply 3):
Ireland would become the "Amsterdam" for drinkers. F'n Irish wouldn't allow it to happen!

Well, the Irish housewives somehow figured out how to get the pubs closed at 11pm. What do you think their next move will be? Big grin



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1730 times:

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 8):
Does not alter reality....????What about all the dumb things guys do when drunk.....And as for women look at all the hot women going home with ugly guys cause they are to drunk to see what scuds they really are...

But you don't have to get drunk. It is perfectly possible to have one or two glasses of wine or beer without getting trashed.

If you smoke a joint, however, you WILL be noticably affected. Anyone who says they are not affected is smoking more than just occasionally.


User currently offlineGarri767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1694 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 9):

Well, you have to get laid somehow, don't you, Greasespot?

oh god that was good!


User currently offlineCasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4751 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1673 times:

hmmm,
If Alcohol was illegal, there would be a lot less people on this planet  Smile)

Less attendance at Church. I mean cmon, that whole water to wine thing by Jesus was a pretty good converter for a lot of people.

Less people alive due to the medicinal use of alcohol as an anasthetic and as a wound cleanser.

Without Alcohol, the world would still be in the dark ages.



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