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How Illegal Is It To Rip Coded DVDs  
User currently offlineTPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 20
Posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1994 times:

I have the 40 Year Old Virgin DVD and I was going to burn a copy of it. However, I went to use the program I have to burn DVDs and It said that the DVD is CSS encrypted and the program could not do it.

So...how illegal is the DeCSS thing? I'm guessing that it is, I'm just not sure how illegal it is. Basically I was going to burn a copy to keep at my girlfriend's house and mine in case the Feds are wondering...lol.

So, is it like they're lurking watching people download this illegal, or more like "file sharing"  Wink illegal?


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User currently offlineLnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1988 times:

Illegal.

Period.

1011yyz



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User currently offlineEspion007 From Denmark, joined Dec 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1986 times:

But not impossible.


bla.



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User currently offlinePilotsmoe From United States of America, joined May 2005, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

Nah, It's perfectly legal as long as you have the original copy  Wink

User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1982 times:

Its only illegal if you get caught.


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User currently offlineBtriple7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1160 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

I bet there's some fed reading this thread right now.


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User currently offlineTPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

Quoting Pilotsmoe (Reply 3):
Nah, It's perfectly legal as long as you have the original copy

I do at this moment.  Smile



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User currently offlineYooYoo From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 6057 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1972 times:

Or you could buy another copy and have a clear conscience.

Or you could make a copy, i'm those Hollywood people have made enough money from this flick?



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User currently offlinePilotsmoe From United States of America, joined May 2005, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1968 times:

Quoting TPASXM787 (Reply 6):
I do at this moment.

But you're making a copy to give to your g/f, so it's illegal.(didn't read the whole thing the first time around  Yeah sure ) Personal copys are legal, though


User currently offlineBrendan03 From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 951 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1941 times:

Quoting Pilotsmoe (Reply 3):
Nah, It's perfectly legal as long as you have the original copy

That's true as far as I'm concerned... "Backup Purposes"



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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

Generally speaking its about as illegal as ripping non-encoded DVD's. In the end, you're doing the same thing, the MFR has just made it harder to do so.

User currently offlineJean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2116 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1930 times:

What does "How Illegal?" mean, anyway? It's absolutely illegal, and that's really all there is to it. Is there any such thing as "a little bit illegal"?

Whether you'll get caught, get a big fine, etc., is another matter, and probably depends a fair bit on your jurisdiction.

JL

p.s. It seems to me that you also know, deep down, that it's wrong - but that part of you is hoping to get vindication from other here, saying they do it all the time. That's just my opinion, of course.



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User currently offlineRAMPRAT980 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 600 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1920 times:

Quoting Lnglive1011yyz (Reply 1):
Illegal.

Yes but who is going to know....



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User currently offlineJean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2116 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1915 times:

Quoting RAMPRAT980 (Reply 12):
Yes but who is going to know....

So your criterion about whether you should do something is whether you'll get caught? This is troubling.



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User currently offlineLijnden From Netherlands, joined Apr 2003, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1902 times:
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Did you ever go on one of the newsgroups or torrent sites? Tons of stuff to download. From whole books on how to beat the taxman to the latest software, movies, games and music. Not to mention the guys that have hooked up their satellite-dishes to their computers and can plug into about every TV-channel and more.

It is simply the modern way of taping records on a cassette and hooking on two videos to make a copy of the rented VHS tapes (remember: the 70's and 80's). The tapes have gone by now and the DVD or CD has taken its place.

Is it illegal? Is it legal? It is neither; things done with computers (call it advanced calculators) are often in a big grey area. You are making major calculations using a device that only knows 1's and 0's. The outcome is a result that might be called mp3 but still exist only out of 1's and 0's. How can that be illegal?



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User currently offlineLentigomaligna From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

Quoting Lijnden (Reply 14):
Is it illegal? Is it legal? It is neither; things done with computers (call it advanced calculators) are often in a big grey area. You are making major calculations using a device that only knows 1's and 0's. The outcome is a result that might be called mp3 but still exist only out of 1's and 0's. How can that be illegal?

Intellectual Property, regardless of its format (whether the 0s and 1s of computers or a's and b's in print) is property nonetheless.


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8439 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1890 times:

get a program called Dvd decrypter. Will solve your dvd copying issues but not your legal and ethical ones.

It is illegal yes. But if you don't go out selling hundreds of copies you will generally go unnoticed.


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

Quoting Pilotsmoe (Reply 3):
Nah, It's perfectly legal as long as you have the original copy

And keep the copy as well as the original yourself.

Quoting Lijnden (Reply 14):
Is it illegal? Is it legal? It is neither; things done with computers (call it advanced calculators) are often in a big grey area. You are making major calculations using a device that only knows 1's and 0's. The outcome is a result that might be called mp3 but still exist only out of 1's and 0's. How can that be illegal?

It's actually quite illegal. It's theft. Of course the pirates will claim that noone gets hurt and therefore it's not illegal but I HAVE seen people get hurt seriously.
Friends lost their jobs because of lowlife pirates, they lost their homes and pensions.
Thanks to pirates thousands of people end up on the street every year.



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User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3702 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1866 times:
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I rented it and burned it with DVD Shrink, I did the same with The Wedding Crashers. Screw Hollywood, they make anough off theses movies, its my way of sticking it to the man.


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