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AA To Buy 20 New F350s  
User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7399 times:

I heard from my inside source at DFW that next month AA was going to buy 20 new Ford pickup trucks to work on the ramp.


How will this affect their service out of DFW?

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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7350 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Thread starter):
How will this affect their service out of DFW?

Happier ramp workers which means more productive ramp workers.  Smile



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineJamesontheroad From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7311 times:

Depends if they're double-cabs... if not, then Y cabin only... Big grin

*j*


User currently offlineMrSTL From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 468 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7247 times:

I don't know about those F350's GM said they are made of composites- however they do hold good cargo.

Only problem is half of them will go to DAL if Wright is turned over as they have already pulled the F350's from Lima


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7230 times:

I don't think that DFW's O&D is good for the 350. AA should go with the smaller 150 model.

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7209 times:

I should have made a thread last June about how MEA's ground handling company MEAG bought 54 Motorola walkie talkies and 12 Poyet wheelchairs. It's old news now...

Maybe I'll thread about how they recently put larger "Nothing to declare" and "Items to declare" signs and how they replaced the dark wall coverings with lighter colored wall coverings in the immigration/customs area in DEN recently.

 

[Edited 2006-01-10 04:57:37]


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7116 times:

They should have bought Dodge Mega Cabs, the A380 of the pick-up truck world.

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7085 times:

Give them 3 months and they'll look like old F350's....!!! It will have zero effect for the service out of DFW. The truck is a tool... and used just that way.

[Edited 2006-01-10 05:07:13]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7040 times:

I wonder if i was the only one who saw that as "....New A350's"

haha



Do you like movies about gladiators?
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7034 times:

This will seriously affect AA's profits. Rising Gas prices will seriously hurt AA. Those F350s are true gas guzzlers. They should've picked the Hybrid Chevy Silverado for ER capabilities and less fuel consumption.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 37
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6879 times:

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 8):
I wonder if i was the only one who saw that as "....New A350's"

I thought it was some sort of new Fokker .  Smile



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7781 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6854 times:

Now the debate will be one which powerplant AA will choose.

Will they stick with the standard Triton V8, the 6.8L V10, or go for the gusto with the PowerStroke Diesel?



Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6810 times:

oh man they gotta go with the Powerstroke.

i have a great idea for a new Ford Commercial.

On the taxi way at DFW, a F350 pulling a 777 down the runway. That would be pretty fuckin' sweet...haha



Do you like movies about gladiators?
User currently offlineCRJ705 From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6705 times:

I would guess diesel because they have more torque plus they have some fuel efficiency advantages over gas models. The disadvantage is emissions being high for the diesel model and there would be less places for the trucks to fill up if they were driven on public roads. The V-10 offers more horsepower but less torque but it would be easier to fill up if it were driven anywhere. The V-8 is probobly the least expensive of the three and the engine is shared with the F-150, so therefore it would be less expensive to maintain due to commonality.

Regards
CRJ705


User currently offlineWhataboutme From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6639 times:

After the 1000 bonus payouts, will AA be able to afford the F350. Maybe they should go with the Ranger instead. They can probably get 40 of those for the price of 20 F350.

User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6622 times:

What is going on with this forum........ Can I start a topic about the light cleaning at Hong Kong International  sarcastic 

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6602 times:

Quoting Whataboutme (Reply 14):
Maybe they should go with the Ranger instead.

Probably still too much, they should go for these:



Only $6499 each, and since they'll be ordering 20 of them, they can probably get a discount, maybe $6000 each.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26537 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6579 times:

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 11):
Will they stick with the standard Triton V8, the 6.8L V10, or go for the gusto with the PowerStroke Diesel?

Well, given fuel prices, I think they would go diesel. Then again, I think NW will chose a fleet of used 460s in need of a tune up.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5222 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6497 times:

Oh no!!! What a bad movement from AA's management... this will hardly affect directly it's operation and service quality at DFW...

They should have gone for 40 F150s instead....

Wonder what Dodge HQ are thinking at this moment!!!

ghost77 APM



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User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6405 times:

Quoting N754PR (Reply 15):
Can I start a topic about the light cleaning at Hong Kong International

Someone would do it if they knew about it.


User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1496 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6312 times:

Quoting N754PR (Reply 15):
Can I start a topic about the light cleaning at Hong Kong International sarcastic

Actually I think that would be more interesting!

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 10):
I thought it was some sort of new Fokker .

Me too, only reason I opened this thread.  Smile



Sometimes we don't realize the good times when we're in them
User currently offlineXkorpyoh From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 819 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6265 times:

it is all because of the subsidies... i bet they got them almost for free

User currently offlineJayinKitsap From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 769 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6197 times:

Ford keeps going on and on about their "all new" F350. But looks just like last years F330! And their new slogan, "4 tires for the long haul" and "would you drive thru the desert with only one gas tank and no spare?" seem like a PR blunder.

But they have this new IDE "In Dash Entertainment". It is this incredible gizmo. Just by turning a dial correctly you can hear notes - I found country, Rock & Roll, and Jazz. They said it is called a radio. Anyway, its going to change the whole industry.

I think AA should go for the green label, run them on methane - there's an unlimited supply. Does anyone know whether the Rampers contract covers the F350, I think only the most senior get to operate them, and there's the two weeks of training in vegas before they are certified.


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3868 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6116 times:

"AA To Buy 20 New F350s"

Are these firm or commitments for 2006?

...or been counted on last year's total 200+ 350s orders/commitments?

 Wink



Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6062 times:

Can we see a new livery with these trucks? Who is going to operate it, mainline, or Eagle?

.....guys, how can we have a thread in Civil Aviation about airlines ordering trucks? Has it really been this slow in the aviation world?  wink 

-SOAC



Non Illegitimi Carborundum
25 Flyf15 : Eagle, paying the drivers 26 cents per hour. It is, afterall, just a step up to the big rigs and the drivers should be honored for the experience.
26 Post contains images Vegasplanes : That would be too cool, why not, the new F-150 commercial shows it pulling a Peterbilt above the truck, the 350 should be able to tow a 777 down a ru
27 SonOfACaptain : What are they going to do with the combined truck fleet from the HP merger? When will the certificates merge and US drivers can drive HP trucks and v
28 Ghost77 : If rumors are correct, everything points out it's a firm 2006 order!!! Unless we have to wait for the 17th... for Ford's 2005 spreedsheet. Wonder how
29 Post contains images EnviroTO : Let's not turn this into a F vs B thread. I opened this thread thinking AA was buying planes (A350), not trucks. Orders or options. I don't know why F
30 Post contains images Vatveng : Meanwhile GM just announced it would be "10 years" before a Colorado replacement, but Ford let slip it was working on a composite replacement for the
31 FCKC : Airbus A350s would have been better for them !!!!!!!!!Sorry couldn't resist !!!!!!
32 Post contains images UAL777UK : Why dont they strip the engines out as well as the cab floor and use their feet to get around...just like the flintstones! yabadadoooooooo!
33 Post contains images SFORunner : Any word if AA will be ordering the "blended winglets" option? [Edited 2006-01-10 13:02:10]
34 SPREE34 : Not to start a F v D battle here or anything, but this is an insult to the A380.
35 Post contains images JGPH1A : What ? Reply 35 and still nobody has brought up the fraught subject of Ford's illegal state subsidies and the fact that it's a Michigan jobs-generatio
36 Ourboeing : I was at SFO a couple of weeks ago and saw bicycles riding ramp employees servicing several different flights. I even saw one carrying a little suitca
37 Contrails : Does this mean that the other carriers will rush to match AA's move? If so, how would this affect the overall state of the airline industry? I'm calli
38 Slovacek747 : Shoulda gone with the Dodge Cummins 3500. Much better engine and truck. Screw Ford Slovacek747
39 HarvardMan99 : CaptOveur: Your subject posting has nothing to do with this forum. Airliners.net is about airplanes not trucks. Forum administrators, when are you goi
40 Revelation : Let us not forget that America is finally getting around to introducing leading edge European technology: the Diesel engine. Gee, isn't "piston" a Fre
41 Dc10s4ever : Last time I checked AA is an AIRLINE. Anyway he was just having some fun. Lighten up!
42 ChrisNH : You think? Give it a week, then they'll start whining about something else that will make them 'happier and more productive' once they get it. Then i
43 Revelation : LOL! Do you feel better now, Chris? I guess the cost of an a.net subscription is cheaper than a session with a therapist! I think it'd be fun to have
44 Post contains links and images OyKIE : As an Norwegian I should say that this would have been the car for AA. It is an electrical car and the only car produced in Norway. Strange to have an
45 Kcm572 : Actually the F350 is produced in Kentucky not Michigan. What AA should be doing is buying GMC Sierra 3500 as it is a much better vehicle. Are they go
46 Gunsontheroof : Congratulations to AA and Ford! What a great order to kick off the new year! How many orders is that for the F350 now?
47 FlyPIJets : Does anyone know if any of the new F350's will end up at RDU?
48 EALflyer : I think Ford is definitely losing money on this deal. The only way they picked up this F350 order was by offering below-cost pricing to AA. Pursuing m
49 DesertJets : My sources in Dallas say that the deciding factor in picking the F-350 over the Ram was the potential loss of productivity of every ramper asking "You
50 Pope : Has the machinist union agreed to a pay scale on who can drive the larger F350's?
51 A319114 : Will AA be able to fill all those seats? Also, where will they drive them? The market seems so much over capacity these days.
52 KaiGywer : Quit whining. It took 38 posts before you came along to complain. With only 16 posts, I'd say sit back and relax. Never makes a good first impression
53 Bill142 : Yeah forget this hub - hub strategy! go with the hub buster!
54 Asuflyer05 : Has anyone heard any rumblings on where they plan on using the new F350s? I read in the Star Ledger that they are thinking of bringing them to EWR. An
55 Post contains images ANCFlyer : His thread is perfect for Civil Aviation. Most of the threads in Civ-Av are total horseshit anyway these days, dominated by teenaged airline CEO wann
56 CaptOveur : Harvard man.. You don't know what you are talking about. Please, oh Harvard one, explain to the forum how ground equipment is NOT aviation related. I
57 BristolFlyer : If it is found to be aviation related it shouldn't be in the non-aviation forum! BF
58 CaptOveur : I was trying to keep in mind he is a Harvard man. I tried to use small words and type slowly. I guess certain moderators just do whatever someone sug
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