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User currently offlineAirplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

My mom and I have been wanting to take a trip during the summer, so we finally settled on Israel due to sheer amount of interesting history surrounding that country. I have several questions for those of you that have traveled there or live there:

1) How much can we expect to pay for decent hotels (we can share a bed; hotel doesn't need to be nice but not a hostel either)?

2) Is there much to see in Tel Aviv as tourists if we don't plan to go to the beach or night clubs? (I'm not going clubbing with my mother!  Smile )

3) We're considering going to Jerusalem, the Dead Sea, and Haifa (we have nine days). Do you have any other recommendations?

4) We will only be there for one Saturday, but where would be a good place to spend that Saturday since, from what I have read, many things are closed on Saturdays?

5) How long is a good amount of time to spend in Jerusalem?


Thanks for any of your answers or suggestions! Also, in case you're wondering, we are flying on Delta's soon to be inaugurated ATL-TLV-ATL flights. I'm sure 13 hours on a DL 777 on the return will be lovely!  crazy 

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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

Quoting Airplanetire (Thread starter):
My mom and I have been wanting to take a trip during the summer, so we finally settled on Israel due to sheer amount of interesting history surrounding that country. I have several questions for those of you that have traveled there or live there:

Excellent choice...You will not be disappointed! Travelling to Israel is a very moving experience...Are you or your mother religious?

Quoting Airplanetire (Thread starter):
2) Is there much to see in Tel Aviv as tourists if we don't plan to go to the beach or night clubs? (I'm not going clubbing with my mother!

There is tons of touristy stuff to do in Tel Aviv...Rabin Square, Independence Hall, definitly take a drive up the coast past the American Embassy. The best thing about being a tourist in Israel is that everything is so close. Driving from Tel Aviv to Haifa or Jerusalem takes about as long as my commute to high school did (around an hour). So you will have lots of flexibility once you get there.

Quoting Airplanetire (Thread starter):

3) We're considering going to Jerusalem, the Dead Sea, and Haifa (we have nine days). Do you have any other recommendations?

You might want to look into Eilat...But it's basically a beach city, and you seem not to be so into that. But if you go to Eilat, you can take a day trip into Jordan.

Quoting Airplanetire (Thread starter):
4) We will only be there for one Saturday, but where would be a good place to spend that Saturday since, from what I have read, many things are closed on Saturdays?

DEFINITLY spend Shabbat at the Western Wall in Jerusalem...Very moving, even if you aren't religious. Perhaps spend the Saturday in Tel Aviv?

Quoting Airplanetire (Thread starter):
5) How long is a good amount of time to spend in Jerusalem?

Totally depends on you and your mother and what you are most interested in seeing. Like I said, once you are there you will be pretty flexible.


User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2013 times:

Quoting Airplanetire (Thread starter):
1) How much can we expect to pay for decent hotels (we can share a bed; hotel doesn't need to be nice but not a hostel either)?

I dont know why RJpieces didnt find that funny/disturbing. I dont know of many guys between 16-20 who share hotel beds with their moms..now if shes a mil..nevermind.

I just found that a bit odd thats all..someone quote me here and tell me if im overreacting.


User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2002 times:

Considering that i live there... i'm gonna recommend visiting Galillee.. i was there yesterday... (for the millionth time in my life)... always a great place.. a lot of things to see and great food (Tanureen restautrant).

My Grasndpa owns a travel agency in Jerusalem.. i will ask him all the questions you mentioned above.. and i'll let you know what he says..

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. (within the next 12 hours) as i'm leaving t go back to the USA.

Israel is one of the NICEST places on earth to visit.. it's rich in history.


User currently offlineAirplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1988 times:

Neither my mom nor I are religious, but I am extremely interested in history and Israel is loaded with that, so that is why we are going.

Thank you all so much for your information on Israel. CO7e7, I'll try to get in touch with you in the next few days.


User currently offlineAirplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

And about the bed thing, it's mostly an issue of money. Of course I would rather have my own bed, but if it was a lot cheaper to have a room with one queen bed than two double beds, that would be fine. I don't think sharing a bed with a family member would be weird in that situation. Perhaps my perception is twisted, but it's not as if I am attracted to my mother.

User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1980 times:

Interesting to see that Israel is again putting money into attracting the IT holidaymaker. Plenty of TV advertising in Britain for Eilat and Tel Aviv at the moment, pushing the resort quality and nightlife of the capital.

I suppose one major plus is that Israel is actually pretty compact and a tourist can get to see quite a bit on arranged excursions.


User currently offlineBrokenrecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 772 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1978 times:

As a word of caution, if you think that sometime in the near future you will want to do business in the Middle East or North Africa, I HIGHLY recommend getting a second US passport for this trip to Israel. Most Arab countries will deny entry to their country if your passport contains entry stamps from Israel, so having a second one strictly for travel to Israel is a good plan.

User currently offlineFOMEA From Lebanon, joined Jul 2005, 849 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1972 times:

Quoting Brokenrecord (Reply 7):
As a word of caution, if you think that sometime in the near future you will want to do business in the Middle East or North Africa, I HIGHLY recommend getting a second US passport for this trip to Israel. Most Arab countries will deny entry to their country if your passport contains entry stamps from Israel, so having a second one strictly for travel to Israel is a good plan.

Dont think there is a need for that.
You can always request your passport not to be stamped.
Also, you can request your visa not to be placed on your passport.
Unless rules have changed..


Regards
F-OMEA.



Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.
User currently offlineBrokenrecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 772 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

Quoting FOMEA (Reply 8):
Dont think there is a need for that.
You can always request your passport not to be stamped.
Also, you can request your visa not to be placed on your passport.
Unless rules have changed..

Is it possible to do that? I didn't think it was possible to not be stamped. Every country I have been to looked for the entry stamp upon departure.


User currently offlineLY7E7 From Israel, joined Jun 2004, 2234 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

Good choice and I hope you'll enjoy your trip.

Quoting Airplanetire (Thread starter):
1) How much can we expect to pay for decent hotels (we can share a bed; hotel doesn't need to be nice but not a hostel either)?

Depends on the city. I'd say from $80 to $150, but in the high season can go up to $200 and higher (in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Dead Sea and Eilat). If you want more than decent - in Tel Aviv for instance - around $300 will be more appropriate (in high season).

Quoting Airplanetire (Thread starter):
2) Is there much to see in Tel Aviv as tourists if we don't plan to go to the beach or night clubs? (I'm not going clubbing with my mother! )

Tel Aviv is a young city, thus don't expect much history. It's a fun city , great restaurants , great beaches , great nightlife and a very good variety of cultural venues. Walking around is fun, seeing the White City (a UNESCO World heritage site due to the massive amount of Bauhaus architecture), shopping, Neve Tzedeq (the oldest part of the city - now a bohemian neighborhood). You'll have lots of fun. Jaffa is also great.

Quoting Airplanetire (Thread starter):
3) We're considering going to Jerusalem, the Dead Sea, and Haifa (we have nine days). Do you have any other recommendations?

As it has been said before Galilee and Golan are wonderful, but since you only have 9 days - skip it. My suggestion is Tel Aviv- Jerusalem - Dead Sea/Eilat.

Quoting Airplanetire (Thread starter):
4) We will only be there for one Saturday, but where would be a good place to spend that Saturday since, from what I have read, many things are closed on Saturdays?

Spend it in Tel Aviv. More things are open than on any given Sunday in major European cities.

Quoting Airplanetire (Thread starter):
5) How long is a good amount of time to spend in Jerusalem?

Anywhere between 3 days and a lifetime. It's an extraordinary city.

Feel free to e-mail me.



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User currently offlineFOMEA From Lebanon, joined Jul 2005, 849 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1963 times:

Quoting Brokenrecord (Reply 9):
Is it possible to do that? I didn't think it was possible to not be stamped. Every country I have been to looked for the entry stamp upon departure.

I will tell you this Much, I was in and out of TLV (Mulitipe times) in the Mid 90S.
My passport was never stamped niether on the way Nor on the way out.
I used My Lebanese Passport.


Regards
F-OMEA.



Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.
User currently offlineBrokenrecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 772 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1962 times:

Quoting FOMEA (Reply 11):
I will tell you this Much, I was in and out of TLV (Mulitipe times) in the Mid 90S.
My passport was never stamped niether on the way Nor on the way out.
I used My Lebanese Passport.

Interesting.


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 2):
I dont know of many guys between 16-20 who share hotel beds with their moms..now if shes a mil..nevermind.

I just found that a bit odd thats all..someone quote me here and tell me if im overreacting.

Haha, I don't see anything wrong with that. Whenver my family travels, we still split beds. Besides, when you are travelling, the hotel should be where you spend the least amount of time.

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 3):
i'm gonna recommend visiting Galillee

I would as well. Are you Christian? I know you said you aren't religious, but definitly check out the Galillee. You can take a day trip up to the Galillee and Golan...Also really cool to check out the Israeli Arab towns there.

Quoting Airplanetire (Reply 4):
but I am extremely interested in history and Israel is loaded with that

Definitly picked the right country to visit then.

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 6):
Interesting to see that Israel is again putting money into attracting the IT holidaymaker. Plenty of TV advertising in Britain for Eilat and Tel Aviv at the moment, pushing the resort quality and nightlife of the capital.

Israel has won the Intifada; Their economy is booming; Tourism is back to pre-2000 levels, so that doesn't surprise me.

Out of curiousity, how do most Brits view the idea of travelling to the Holy Land for fun? And Tel Aviv is not the capital....

Quoting LY7E7 (Reply 10):
Depends on the city. I'd say from $80 to $150, but in the high season can go up to $200 and higher (in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Dead Sea and Eilat). If you want more than decent - in Tel Aviv for instance - around $300 will be more appropriate (in high season).

Maybe you should treat yourselves to one fancy night in a hotel. Most people have heard of the King David hotel and that is loaded with historyl--One night there shouldn't be more than $250. Same goes for the David Citadel (minus the history)...But I just looked up a random date in June and it was pretty reasonable for such a luxury hotel (That is where US officials usually stay when in Israel)

Quoting LY7E7 (Reply 10):
Tel Aviv is a young city, thus don't expect much history.

That does hit you when you are travelling into the city for the first time. I remember my tour guide pointing to the sand dunes that are preserved and saying how the whole city was like that a century ago.

Quoting LY7E7 (Reply 10):
restaurants , great beaches , great nightlife and a very good variety of cultural venues.

Airplanetire, I forgot to mention that one of the most amazing things about Israel is the variety of cultures. Something like 40% of Israelis were born someplace else and they all have great stories. You will see black Israelis, Indian Israelis, Americans, Australians, everything.


User currently offlineLY7E7 From Israel, joined Jun 2004, 2234 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1936 times:

Check out this small promotion video about Tel Aviv and Jaffa:

http://www.tel-aviv.gov.il/Hebrew/_M...ltimediaServer/Videos/12516205.wmv



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User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 3):
Israel is one of the NICEST places on earth to visit.. it's rich in history.

What history? That country is only 50yo.


User currently offlineLY7E7 From Israel, joined Jun 2004, 2234 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1923 times:

Quoting Lindy (Reply 15):
What history? That country is only 50yo

Are you serious?



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User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1922 times:

What was the year that Israel was created? 1948? 1951?
And what was that land called before that?


User currently offlineLY7E7 From Israel, joined Jun 2004, 2234 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

Quoting Lindy (Reply 17):
What was the year that Israel was created? 1948?

1948

Quoting Lindy (Reply 17):
And what was that land called before that?

Here are just a few names that the land had during its very long history: Canaan, Judean kingdom, Palestine (comes from the tribes of Plishtim that inhabited the coastal areas together with the Phynikians), Israel (not the modern State of Israel),Part of the Roman, Byzantean and Ottoman empires, etc. etc.

[Edited 2006-01-13 19:17:46]


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User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

Quoting LY7E7 (Reply 14):
Check out this small promotion video about Tel Aviv and Jaffa:

Awesome video, Rudy!

Quoting Lindy (Reply 15):
What history? That country is only 50yo.

I second the "Are you serious"? For any person interested in history, there is no country more interesting than Israel for the shear amount of world events influenced by it--From ancient times to today.


User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

Quoting Lindy (Reply 15):
What history? That country is only 50yo.

LY7E7 you may have missed his point...look where me and Lindy are from...maybe then you will understand our "love" for Israel.


User currently offlineLY7E7 From Israel, joined Jun 2004, 2234 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1905 times:

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 20):
LY7E7 you may have missed his point

No I haven't. I was just trying to prevent this thread from going where your Polish pal wanted it to.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 20):
...look where me and Lindy are from

yeah, and I don't like you too.



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1902 times:

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 20):
LY7E7 you may have missed his point...look where me and Lindy are from...maybe then you will understand our "love" for Israel.

So anyone from Poland has to be an anti-semite? Pretty flawed logic there....

[Edited 2006-01-13 19:42:42]

User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

Quoting LY7E7 (Reply 21):
Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 20):
LY7E7 you may have missed his point

No I haven't. I was just trying to prevent this thread from going where your Polish pal wanted it to.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 20):
...look where me and Lindy are from

yeah, and I don't like you too.

I never said I didnt like you personally. I dont know why the personal attacks.

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 22):
So anyone from Poland has to be an anti-semite? Pretty flawed logic there....

Uhhh...I never said that either...your putting words in my mouth which I never said.

On a sidenote, I dont know of anyone in Poland that looks upon Israel favorably (save for the very few Polish jews)...then again, I dont know of a SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE of people outside of Israel and USA that look upon it favorably.

No need for personal attacks.

Ive been to Israel myself (Dead Sea + Jerusalem + Tel Aviv) and its a very scenic country with alot to see especially if you are religious and no matter if your a Jew or Christian or a Muslim.


User currently offlineLY7E7 From Israel, joined Jun 2004, 2234 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1885 times:

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 23):
I dont know why the personal attacks

Who said it was personal? "You" is plural.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 23):
I dont know of anyone in Poland that looks upon Israel favorably

I wonder why? Maybe because since the middle ages your national motto was "Polska bez Zydow". NSZ rings a bell? Should I continue? less than 1% of Jewish survivals in Poland, compared to 75% in France? More? Kielce 1946 ?



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25 BA : Were you visiting the areas of southern Lebanon that were under Israeli occupation at the time? This is the only reason they would let you in with a
26 Post contains links LY7E7 : BA, Speaking of Lebanon, I came across a news article this week, saying that the Lebanese army stopped and arrested a Palestinian vessel full of arms
27 FOMEA : Bingo....thats what i did. Regards F-OMEA.
28 Post contains links BA : LY7E7, The Palestinian vessel belonged to the PFLP-GC, a pro-Syrian Palestinian group that shot 2 Lebanese (they weren't killed) a few days ago. Their
29 FOMEA : Didnt i read somewhere on this site that foreigners with Israeli stamps in their passport can now visit Lebanon ? Can someone confirm? Regards F-OMEA
30 Pope : I too would love to go to Israel but am reluctant to do so because of terrorism. Can anyone give me their perspective on how safe it is or isn't?
31 Lindy : Wow where the hell did you go with this post? You've missunderstood my questions. When I asked about history I was serious because as you said Israel
32 BA : It was mentioned in a Lebanese newspaper (I think Al Balad) a while ago, but it turned out to be false. The policy over Israeli stamps in passports h
33 RJpieces : In all honesty, you are safer in Israel than in some parts of most American cities. I wouldn't have suggested travelling to Israel during the Intifad
34 LY7E7 : Yes they did. Poland was one of the most anti-semitic countries in Europe, during the entire XXth century. The only difference between Poland and Ger
35 Jutes85 : So, about that vacation to Israel.......
36 YoungFlyer : BTW, the history that was talked about earlier in the topic I would assume was not about only Israel as a state. The land which Israel is on carries a
37 YoungFlyer : I really don't want to satrt an arguemnt here because i believe we are both bias in a way. I posted my post while you were posting your so i didn't g
38 LOT767-300ER : Which is exactly why its worth a visit...and exactly why I went to visit. I recommend myself going to Jerusalem obviously. Trip to the dead sea is wa
39 LOT767-300ER : Neither do I, no one is going to change his/her views and besides we already had a lengthy topic on this some time ago.
40 Lindy : And that was exactly my point when I asked the question earlier! But Mr. LY7E7 opened pandora box for no reason.
41 KSYR : Edited to tone this down a little... I'll just echo the sentiment that you should be ashamed of yourself.[Edited 2006-01-14 00:16:15]
42 IFLYMCO : In a last ditch attempt to steer this thread away from an all out brawl: I've been thinking of doing a trip like this as well... Which Middle Eastern
43 TACAA320 : One or both of the following situations: 1) Or you don't know history. Or 2) Your are kidding.
44 LY7E7 : Jordan and Egypt are OK with Israeli stamps. Border crossing is very easy to Egypt in Taba crossing near Eilat, somewhat less easy to Jordan - but st
45 Levg79 : No matter what our fellow Poles say, Israel is very rich in history. My history professor in college, who taught Chinese history by the way, always sa
46 Cedarjet : It won the Intifada?! So the 2.5m Palestinians have all accepted Israel's existence on their land?! Are you insane?! As an aside, "tourism" may be hi
47 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Excuse me but who said that it isnt? I myself went there to view it. Its not like we are talking about the USA here and history Mate, its a useless a
48 LY7E7 : Figures for 2005 (by religion): Jews: 43% Catholics: 18% Protestants: 12% Other Christians: 12% Moslems: 2% Agnostics/Atheists: 10% Others: 3% By ori
49 Fumanchewd : BS. Your question was more loaded than a one year old's diapers. I've always wanted to go to Israel as well, but have always ended up traveling elsew
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