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The Tim McVeigh Difference  
User currently offlinePANYNJ From Bahamas, joined Sep 2001, 213 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 798 times:

I'm getting a little tired with people claiming that Islam is completely innocent of this attrocious crime because Christianity isn't blamed for the OKCity bombing.

DIFFERENCES:

Tim McVeigh DID NOT commit his act in the name of Christianity. Muslim fundamentalists do and often yell the lovely words "allahu akbar" (god is great) before their attack.

Tim McVeigh was an isolated case and did something NO ONE has ever done before with the same motive. Countless attrocities have been attributed to the peaceful religion of Islam over the years and certainly more will come.

Tim McVeigh was one deranged individual with the help of one other guy, Terry Nichols who (while it is arguable) did not fully know what McVeigh was attempting to do.

Our WTC attack was coordinated by a giant Islamic terror network and possibly supported by several governments (some secular and some NOT secular at all).

So stop comparing the two, as a Christian I am offended. Our religion stopped violence against non-believers oh say..............900 years ago and Tim McVeigh never thought what he was doing what get him to heaven or martyred or anything holy like that. Simply politics. Also, he wasn't a goddamn suicide bomber.

PANYNJ

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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21521 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 5 hours ago) and read 781 times:

PANYNJ: So stop comparing the two, as a Christian I am offended. Our religion stopped violence against non-believers oh say..............900 years ago

That would be very nice if atrocities had stopped back then; But not even the crusades had ended by that time. Much of the worst was yet to come: The inquisition, post-reformation wars, colonialisation, slavery, diverse genocides, discrimination and prosecution of jews which even culminated in the holocaust. And that´s just a deliberate selection of the crimes that were perpetrated in the name of christianity (the holocaust "just" partially).

And all were completely against the spirit of christianity.

It was basically just in the second half of the 20th century that human rights have actually become a real factor in real politics.

So we´re not looking too stellar there.

Which still does nothing to excuse any other crimes!


User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 760 times:

I am wondering if the WTC/Pentagon/PA atrocities will shut up the "black helicopter crowd" of militia/vigilantes who fear the U.N. and U.S. Government more than outside enemies. This is the McViegh/Nichols constituency. Send these jerks to the 'stans first as cannon fodder.


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 758 times:

The UN is an attempt at world domination and on world government.

One thing has nothing to do with the other.

Americans need to be wary of undue influence from them.

Just look at Pakistan and Iran. Currently they are insisting on UN sponsership on what primarily would and should be a US show as far as those terrorists go.

They are attempting to hide their lack of action behind UN action. That is unacceptable.



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User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3682 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 754 times:

PANYNJ!@^,

That's good Christians like you that where happy of Appartheid in America just 30 years ago. Did you hear of WASP ?

That has absolutely nothing to do with religion, terrorists could kill for any cause, including fried chicken and lubricated condoms.
They're just crazy. Who cares about their religion ?


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 751 times:

Well, of course, fundamental Islam is to blame for the Sep. 11 attacks.
But then fundamental Christianity has more than its own history of shame. As for Tim McVeigh et al, they were all adherents of a "Blame the Federal Govt-hate all minorities-keep America White and Christian" philosophy.


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