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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1256 times:

I have heard that learning Spanish is, if you are English speaker, relatively easy. Is this true?


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User currently offlineSunshine79 From UK - England, joined Jan 2006, 1759 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1249 times:

Yeah, I started to learn Spanish a couple of years ago and picked it up quite easy. I have some learning materials if you want them if you're looking to start leaning it.


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User currently offlineIah744 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1249 times:

speaking it, yes that is easy


learning it, not so easy



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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 4513 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1242 times:

I thought it was pretty easy but that might have had something to do with knowing French. A lot of the roots are the same and you eventually begin to develop an insight for the tenses and what makes sense and what doesn't.


PARIS, FRANCE...THE BEIRUT OF EUROPE.
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1236 times:

Thanks.  Smile

Thanks for the offer, Sunshine. If I decide to do it'll, I'll let ya know.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3823 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1231 times:

El problema es que generalmente los gringos hablan un dialecto horible, no importa cuantos a�os practican. Bueno, lo mismo pasa con los latinos que hablan ingles.

These are my 0.02 pesos... Hope this doesn't break the a.net language rule...  Big grin

Soren  santahat 



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User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1224 times:

Would it be easy for people over 50? I need a new challenge....


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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 4513 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1213 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 5):
Bueno, lo mismo pasa con los latinos que hablan ingles.

You can say that again...and again...and again...and again...and again. Just come to Los Angeles if you don't believe me.



PARIS, FRANCE...THE BEIRUT OF EUROPE.
User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4762 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1204 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 5):
El problema es que generalmente los gringos hablan un dialecto horible, no importa cuantos años practican.

 yes 

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 5):
Bueno, lo mismo pasa con los latinos que hablan ingles.

Hey, I take offense at that! I've been told I could pass for a native English speaker.  Wink



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User currently offlineMarambio From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1197 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 5):
Bueno, lo mismo pasa con los latinos que hablan ingles.

I actually think it is easier for us Latinos to hide our accent when speaking English, than for English/US/Commonwealth people when speaking Spanish. I know some people here in Argentina whose English is simply perfect, and you wouldn't realize they are from here through their accent. On the other hand, people whose mother tongue is English may have a hard time...

James - Spanish is a very simple language. There are rules and we follow them, except for very few exceptions. I take it you will learn Spain's Spanish. Well, there are some difference with Latin American Spanish, but those are quite easy to manage. Pretty much like English, no matter which Spanish you speak you will make yourself understand without any trouble everywhere in Latin America. Learning Spanish is the gateway not only to more than 330 million people, but also to a really extensive literature, which goes from Cervantes to Gabriel García Márquez and Jorge Luis Borges and many, many others. Besides, speaking Spanish gives you some extra points when applying for a job!

Saludos,
Marambio



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User currently offlineRichM From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 803 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1189 times:

I've previously considered learning spanish. I dislike being a typical brit who can only speak english. I bought some CD-ROM that is supposed to teach me spanish, but I didn't really stick at it. What is the most effective way of learning it?

User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7210 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1174 times:

I'm teaching myself at the moment, and I have several good friends that are native spanish speakers. Needless to say I'm learning 'proper' Spanish, not the stuff they speak in Spain..... Wink

User currently offlineN276AASTT From US Virgin Islands, joined Jan 2004, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1167 times:

I took Spanish all throughout high school and my best friends are from Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic and Colombia. It's easy to pick up, but it can be tricky at times. What I mean by that is some words in spanish (mainly slang) can have different meanings depending on "where" you use it. My friends have said that some words will mean something different if you use it in Puerto Rico vs using it in Mexico, etc.

I've always had a lil trouble when coverting a verb into future or past tense.



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User currently offlineYoungFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1167 times:

The problem is that Spanish has so many different tenses and forms. (imperfect, past, present, present progressive...). If you speak it on the plainest level people will probably still understand you, but it takes a whole lot of practice to speak perfectly.

p.s. Anybody wants to do my Spanish project for Spanish III accelerated?



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User currently offlineMiCorazonAzul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1165 times:

Quoting Iah744 (Reply 2):
speaking it, yes that is easy


learning it, not so easy

actually, that's the OTHER way around.......

It is easy to learn all the words and grammatical rules but when it comes time to put words together into sentences....it can get tricky but definetly not impossible.

Italian on the other hand.....what a disaster that was for me.  banghead 


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3868 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1155 times:

I learned a few words and sentences from this site.

http://www.notam02.no/~hcholm/altlang/ht/Spanish.1.html



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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1148 times:

Dos curvesas por favor senior! Big grin

What more do you need ffs!! Big grin

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineMarambio From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1145 times:

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 16):
Dos curvesas por favor senior!

What more do you need ffs!!

Too bad it's "¡Dos cervezas, por favor señor!"  Silly

Saludos,
Marambio



Aerolíneas Argentinas - La Argentina que levanta vuelo.
User currently offlineSFOMEX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1140 times:

Quoting Marambio (Reply 17):
"¡Dos cervezas, por favor señor!"

Even more, who else besides a non native Spanish speaker would add "señor" at the end of the sentence!!! Big grin

Native speakers would only say "Dos cervezas por favor", regardless of whom you are addressing.


User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1139 times:

I have been living here in Mexico for 6 months, and before I came I really did not know or understand spanish. And it is relatively easy and I am impressed that i can speak pretty ok now. But there is no way I can speak like a latin american, I have alot more to learn. Spanish has somewhere in the region of 15 tenses, to learn and use them properly takes some practice. To speak it without a strange accent also takes practice. Sorry to say, but Americans sometimes really find that difficult. It is almost like they are pronouncing the spanish word in american english. I am not a native mexican but I can notice it..  Smile

In any event, the good thing about spanish is that once you have been exposed to it for a bit, reading spanish literature or watching latin american movies is pretty eas. You may not understand every single word as you would if it was english but you will get probably a bit more than just the general gist of whats happening. Secondly, the how it is pronounced is how it is spelt rule helps alot. English is really messed up in that area. I travelled through a few US cities last month, and I tell you, the US or some cities in particular are almost bilingual. It was the first languange I heard when i landed in DFW, MIA and JFK. Learning spanish is great idea...



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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1130 times:

Quoting Marambio (Reply 17):
Too bad it's "¡Dos cervezas, por favor señor!"



Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 18):
Even more, who else besides a non native Spanish speaker would add "señor" at the end of the sentence!!!

Hey, it worked for me in Mexico! Big grin Picky, picky - I never said I could spell either! LMAO! Big grin

Andy  old 



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1125 times:

Thanks a bunch, folks!  Smile

Quoting Marambio (Reply 9):
I take it you will learn Spain's Spanish.

Well, I'm a firm believer in learning a language in a country which speaks it. So, I could go to Spain, or almost all of South America, or Central America. I would, at this stage, most like Guatemala (Central America): it's cheap (I can get language learning, accommodation and three meals/day for $150/week, or £85/week, at a well-regarded language school); it's exciting; it's great.  Smile Perhaps 2-3 months would do initially to get a good grasp. Who knows?



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1118 times:

I can't say much in Spanish at the moment bar some ordering and the usual greetings. I think the following is about the best so far: Un café con leche y un Coque por favor. Gracias. I know some random words, like sol, sombra, etc., etc.

[Edited 2006-01-15 13:31:37]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1096 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 21):

Well, I'm a firm believer in learning a language in a country which speaks it. So, I could go to Spain, or almost all of South America, or Central America. I would, at this stage, most like Guatemala (Central America): it's cheap (I can get language learning, accommodation and three meals/day for $150/week, or £85/week, at a well-regarded language school); it's exciting; it's great. Smile Perhaps 2-3 months would do initially to get a good grasp. Who knows?

Why don't you try Margarita Island in Venezuela? Caribbean sun and beaches, plus mountains/jungle, duty free island, extremely cheap living, hot Venezuelan Girls and in case you feel the need to hang out with fellow Britons or Europens, there are plenty of them owning little hotels around the island. Excel Airways flies 2X weekly from Manchester and LGW.

Quoting YoungFlyer (Reply 13):
The problem is that Spanish has so many different tenses and forms. (imperfect, past, present, present progressive...). If you speak it on the plainest level people will probably still understand you, but it takes a whole lot of practice to speak perfectly.

Completely true. I failed Spanish Grammar when I had to take it back in 8th and 9th grade, but the good part was that I got high grades in the Literature part of the course so at the end I passed Spanish in both 8th and 9th grade. Spanish Grammar is such a mess.... Thankfully it is my mother tongue and I'm able to speak it fluently.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineMsllsmith From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 396 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1086 times:

The most fun way to learn any language I think is total immersion. I moved my kid, my dog and my life savings to Spain several years ago to start a business on an abandoned airport .... it was quite remote and not many people in the town spoke any English.... My son learned by going to school, with tutoring on the side and I learned by having a REALLY BIG dictionary which I carried with me every where. It broke the ice with the locals and they jumped in to help me learn. You have to be completely open to humorous criticism.

My Spanish stinks. But by the time I left I had a REALLY LITTLE dictionary.

I found that, "Lo siento muchas, no hablo Espanol, pero tengo un diccionario muy grande!" (forgive my spelling errors....please) and a smile got me started just fine.

I also found that getting really drunk with my chums greatly improved my learning curve....for some reason that always accelerated my language skills..... Big grin 


(Also, that's how I turned my schoolgirl French into something roughly equivilant to conversational French... moved to Corsica for a few months)

[Edited 2006-01-15 16:26:50]


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25 TACAA320 : It depends on you. But I don't think it's exactly "easy".
26 SlamClick : Except in the tourist areas like Cabo San Lucas or Cancún where we Gringoes would use the useful Spanish verb "fetchar" (to retrieve) like this: "¡
27 AerorobNZ : The most important thing is to just communicate, even if sentence structure etc isn't any good. As long as you use most of the right words they will u
28 Cory6188 : I think that conversationally, it isn't too hard to learn, but there are plenty of nitpicky grammar rules that can drive you absolutely nuts. I'm taki
29 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : And it's a wonderful place, the climate is great, the people are friendly--Ok, ok, I'll stop the shameless country promotion now. Actually, when it c
30 Post contains images Pe@rson : Thanks. I have always liked the name Carmen. Are you a quintessential beauty with dark skin, hair and complexion? Anyway, enough of my fantasies.
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