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Dr. Von Hagens' Postmortems  
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19187 posts, RR: 52
Posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

What are your opinions on Dr. Gunther Von Hagens' broadcasted experiments, examinations and postmortems?


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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1008 times:

Ummm if you're talking about http://www.bodyworlds.com then I wholeheartedly approve. The bodies are exquisitely prepared and you can get right up near them (I got within inches when I was examining the skeleton of one.) I'm not sure I would take a young child, but even my squeamish father was able to enjoy the exhibit at the Franklin Institute.


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19187 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1001 times:

He and a team of people, including a professor of pathology, examine, experiment and perform a postmortem or two on TV, while discussing the topic in hand. It is occasionally shown on TV here in the UK. Tonight it was about cancer and how the primary cancer can cause the death even when there's a lot of secondary cancer. In addition, it showed how the secondary cancer (i.e. when it has spread from the primary) can be the cause of death even after the primary cancer has disappeared. To illustrate the latter, he covered a body in foam and sawed it into sections (!).

[Edited 2006-01-18 01:33:13]


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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 991 times:

That foam and sawing is what he does to "plastinate" the bodies shown in Bodyworlds.


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19187 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 989 times:

On the Bodyworld's website, it has a link to donate your body. Could I donate Gkirk's body?  Wink


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User currently offlineBDKLEZ From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 1735 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 982 times:

Normally, I don't mind such programmes on TV, but last night I made the mistake of watching it whille in a state of personal weakness (ie long night in the pub and a bit worse for wear!). It all seemed rather surreal, and as for that poor woman, wasn't she yellow inside!


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User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3494 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 981 times:

I saw the Bodyworlds 2 exhibit at the Ontario Science Centre with my biology class. I must say it was very interesting to see what the human body looks like on the inside. I definatly support it as long as the people know what their bodies are going for.


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19187 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 976 times:

Quoting BDKLEZ (Reply 5):
Normally, I don't mind such programmes on TV, but last night I made the mistake of watching it whille in a state of personal weakness (ie long night in the pub and a bit worse for wear!). It all seemed rather surreal, and as for that poor woman, wasn't she yellow inside!

I didn't see it last night - I forgot it was on - but I'll watch it tonight and tomorrow.

The first ever time I saw it, quite a few months ago, I was drunk and in my girlfriend's best after a night out. It was, like you said, quite odd and surreal.



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User currently offline808TWA From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 701 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 968 times:

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 6):
I saw the Bodyworlds 2 exhibit at the Ontario Science Centre with my biology class. I must say it was very interesting to see what the human body looks like on the inside. I definatly support it as long as the people know what their bodies are going for.

I also paid a visit to this exhibition.

It was a phenomenal insight as to how the human being operates and functions or indeed fails to function. Seeing it first hand instead of in text books certainly helps you to understand just how complex homosapiens are.

The way that diseases and illnesses affect the body is also perfectly portrayed and described in terminology that visitors of all ages could understand.

People have stated that it is disgusting and disrespectful but to be honest, people donated their bodies to plastination while they were still in good health and Von Hagens has only performed their wish after passing.

I had completed a form requesting further information on the subject and received a very informative package in the mail just before Christmas. It's interesting that the majority of Von Hagens work actually go to universities and training hospitals but not actually for public display in the Body Worlds exhibition.

Having said this, I haven't yet had the courage to complete the form to donate my body to science.

I would like to see the examinations and postmortems as mentioned above. Not to be morbid but just out of curiousity, hopefuly they will show it over here.

-Alan



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8680 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 959 times:

I think it's become unethical and gives my uni a bad name. More later.


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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8680 posts, RR: 43
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 937 times:

Well then.

I do very much appreciate the quality of the work von Hagens put into the plastinated bodys that remain here at my university. They are a treat to study on - or rather were, when my main class still was macroscopic anatomy. What I disagree with is how he apparently got his hands on some of the bodies used in his exhibitions - dodgy, to say the least. I'm too tired to search for a proper article, but it seems some families in Asia still have no idea who or what they actually buried when they thought they buried their relatives. Second, some of the poses I've seen in photographs do not comply with my idea of respect for the dead.

That said, one of von Hagens' good friends still teaches med students here, and even though I'd venture to call him a little excentric, I feel his lectures and classes were of the more elaborate and also entertaining kind and thus made learning so much easier.



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