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Cindy Sheehan At It Again  
User currently offlineIceTitan447 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1248 times:

Is this an act of freedom of speech, or has she crossed the line into treason?
What a lovely woman

Anybody else think she has tarnished her sons name, and what he stood for?

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User currently offlineSATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1234 times:

Quoting IceTitan447 (Thread starter):

Anybody else think she has tarnished her sons name, and what he stood for?

Well, since her son isn't here to comment I'm not sure who would know him better than his own mom. I think she's doing what she feels is right and I don't think she's trying to hide anything. It must take some guts to go against such a popular war. Err, I mean it must take some guts to go against such an unbelievably vocal group of hawks and pundits who claim that anyone who stands against them might be committing treason and harming the morale of our troops.



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User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1234 times:

Why do you guys get so worked up over her? Why do you even worry about what she's up to? I've never seen one person- Ann Coulter and Jeffrey Dahmer included- inspire so much anger in people.


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1225 times:

Quoting IceTitan447 (Thread starter):

Anybody else think she has tarnished her sons name, and what he stood for?

About 6 months ago . . . or whenever she stared all that    invoking his name.

If it were my Mother, I'd haunt her ass from the grave.

Edit: Typo  Embarrassment

[Edited 2006-01-25 04:01:39]

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12147 posts, RR: 49
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1211 times:
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Not having kids or ever having them for that matter I can only imagine the pain this woman is living through. And I believe this is her way of honoring and remembering the short life her son had on this planet.


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User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1207 times:

She is an absolute disgrace, regardless of her son.

She went way beyond reasonable discourse to absolute idiocy with her comments.

Her recent actions confirm what she really is....a far leftwing activist who is USING her dead son to advance her ideology, which by any charitable standard is way out of the American mainstream.



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User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1207 times:

I am not sure what is worse, the news covering this psycho, or some of her tactics for staying in front of the camera....


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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1207 times:

I agree with SATX. Until Alito is placed on the Supreme Court and attempts to curtail more of your rights, she still have the right to speak out on what she believes. While I have seen photos of her over the past couple of years, my humble opinion is that she is close to a breakdown, but then again many parents have suffered the same fate after losing a child.

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 2):
Ann Coulter and Jeffrey Dahmer included- inspire so much anger in people.

In no way can Ms. Sheenan be compare to the Queen of Hate, Ann Coulter or Jeffrey Dahmer.


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4902 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1207 times:

Well her heart is in the right place but she is not going about things in the right way. Besides, she will not get anywhere till she gets positive coverage from right leaning media outlets such as Fox News - and we all know they're too busy diddling about in the white sands of Aruba looking for Natalee Holloway  Yeah sure.

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User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1196 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 7):
I agree with SATX. Until Alito is placed on the Supreme Court and attempts to curtail more of your rights, she still have the right to speak out on what she believes.

You have been reading toooo many blogs...  Smile



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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1182 times:

Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 9):
You have been reading toooo many blogs... Smile

Just look at his voting record on the appeals court, how many times he has been overturned by the Supreme Court and how many times he has been the lone dissent vote in decisions regarding privacy rights, individuals vs. corporations. Even he fellow judges on the 3rd Circuit (a very conservative court) can't understand his decisions. Remember he was choice #2.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1178 times:

Another conservative attempt to deflect attention to a non-issue. Big deal. None of you really have the right to question what she's done. You haven't walked a mile in here shoes, so what you believe isn't really important. What I believe on this isn't really important. As a free person, she has the right to do this, and there's nothing wrong with that.

User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1165 times:

Quoting IceTitan447 (Thread starter):
Anybody else think she has tarnished her sons name, and what he stood for?

Completely.  checkmark 

Quoting SATX (Reply 1):
Err, I mean it must take some guts to go against such an unbelievably vocal group of hawks and pundits who claim that anyone who stands against them might be committing treason and harming the morale of our troops.

 redflag  Typical. And not one ounce of substance.

Quoting AirCop (Reply 7):
Until Alito is placed on the Supreme Court and attempts to curtail more of your rights, she still have the right to speak out on what she believes.

 redflag  Problem is, no one gives a rat's ass what her rights are. She's disgracing the death of her son in the way she is choosing to go about her 'views.'

Speaking out is not the problem..........her choice of how she speaks out, is.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1155 times:

Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 12):
Problem is, no one gives a rat's ass what her rights are. She's disgracing the death of her son in the way she is choosing to go about her 'views.'

I care a rats' ass about her rights, because if this government ever starts taking away those rights, we'll all start singing "Deutchland Uber Alles", and saying "Seig Heil", my friend.

We ALL have the right to dissent. It's one of the great liberties we enjoy as Americans, so you're damn right I give a shit about her rights.

And it's not for you to decide how she deals with her son's death. You are not her, and while you have the right to your opinion, to crucify someone because she is expressing her opinion is sheer hypocrisy.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1150 times:

What is she is doing is not as bad as what Hanoi Jane did.

And she has company, Harry Belefonte went down there and said pretty simular crap about GW.....Apparently he is still pissed about that Taliban song that came out about the time we started bombing Afghanistan.



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User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1144 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 11):
None of you really have the right to question what she's done. You haven't walked a mile in here shoes, so what you believe isn't really important. What I believe on this isn't really important. As a free person, she has the right to do this, and there's nothing wrong with that.



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 13):
We ALL have the right to dissent. It's one of the great liberties we enjoy as Americans, so you're damn right I give a shit about her rights.

People don't have the right to have an opinion as to way that Cindy Sheehan is handling herself, yet, we have the right to dissent.... Hmmmm?



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User currently offlineMolykote From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1342 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1144 times:
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Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 12):
Problem is, no one gives a rat's ass what her rights are. She's disgracing the death of her son in the way she is choosing to go about her 'views.'

Agreed.

A sensible discussion about the pros/cons of the Iraq war is fine.

If she chooses to invoke the memory of her dead son at every opportuninty with the intention of furthering her own agenda and/or book sales this is disgusting.

To my (limited) knowledge no evidence has been presented that her son's views represented her own. To use her son's death as a means of furthering her own agenda (particularly if her son's views were contratian to her own) is absolutely disgraceful.

Has anyone read her book? I have a tough time believing that she has anything to say. Does anyone know what she plans to do with the money from the book? (If it makes or has made money)



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User currently offlineChrisjake From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 875 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1140 times:

Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 12):
no one gives a rat's ass what her rights are

thats a unsettling response. i hope to god you're never in charge of anything.



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User currently offlineIceTitan447 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1130 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 7):
Ann Coulter or Jeffrey Dahmer.

What do the two have in common?

Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 15):
People don't have the right to have an opinion as to way that Cindy Sheehan is handling herself, yet, we have the right to dissent.... Hmmmm?

Sadly enough we have to hear Falco's rendition but doesn't want to hear ours?

I didn't know this would generate thismuch attention, I think she is disgraceful, my opinion, and she should honor her son and quit dragging his name through the mud.


User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1120 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 13):
I care a rats' ass about her rights, because if this government ever starts taking away those rights, we'll all start singing "Deutchland Uber Alles", and saying "Seig Heil", my friend.



Quoting Chrisjake (Reply 17):
thats a unsettling response. i hope to god you're never in charge of anything.

Get over yourselves.  redflag  My comment was made in the context of this thread........meaning, no one here is bitching about her rights being violated. The topic is whether or not she is disgracing her son's name.

If you paused a little longer before your tantrums, you'd realize that. I'll never question the validity of someone's rights. But in the context of the thread starter, no one give's a rat's ass in this discussion.  yes 

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 13):
You are not her, and while you have the right to your opinion, to crucify someone because she is expressing her opinion is sheer hypocrisy.

You're right, my friend, I'm not her. And I'm not going to comment on what it feels like to be the mother of a son who was killed in battle, as if I know how she feels.

HOWEVER, perception is reality and if this is her way of dealing with his death, then she sure as hell has some sort of condition like the grabbing-as-much-attention-as-possible-while-writing-books-and-milking-the-media disease.

And since you say we all have the right to dissent, then please accept my full dissension as to her choice of grieving. I can think of better, more productive ways to go about it without disgracing the other mothers who are in the same position.



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User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1118 times:

It's funny how much publicity this woman has received....hmmm, actually it's not. The liberal MSM wanted something to do this summer at Crawford and she was the nearest hammer to pummel Bush with.

The families or mothers of other dead veterans did not receive 1/10 of the coverage of Cindy Sheehan. Maybe that's because most of those families supported the U.S. Military, an idea anathema to most of the MSM.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1118 times:

Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 19):
My comment was made in the context of this thread........meaning, no one here is bitching about her rights being violated.

No, no, my friend-YOU don't care about her rights' being violated. My opinion still holds. Our rights are sacred, and if we start trampling on them, especially on those we disagree with, then we're finished as a nation.

But I appreciate you clarifying your position. I understand what you're saying.


User currently offlineIceTitan447 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1112 times:

Why is it the Dixie Chicks can go to England and razz Bush, come home and be hated or maybe catch a bad draft downwind. This nasty women goes into several countries and razzes Bush, and the media eats it up?

I have an answer, just thinking out loud.


User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1102 times:

I feel sorry for Ms. Sheehan. She is being used be the left to further their anti-Bush agenda.

Do as most of the country does. Ignore her.

As for the leftists and their agenda we don't care about them or their message either.

Sorry for that lefties.



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User currently offlineSRQCrosscheck From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1098 times:

Cindy Sheehan has a 1st amendment right to not only freedom of speech and freedom of assembly, but also "freedom of association" (NAACP v. Button, NAACP v. Alabama). End of discussion. There's no "clear and present danger" from her activism. There is no "immediate injury to society that is likely if [her] speech is allowed" (dissent, Dennis v. U.S., 1951).

Quote:
The topic is whether or not she is disgracing her son's name.

If she's disgracing her son, then you could reason that that she doesn't care about her dead son. This is clearly not the case.

It's called righteous anger.

[Edited 2006-01-25 05:48:15]

25 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : Hmm.....I can't speak to who you are, don't speak to who I am. I care very deeply about our rights..........I fight for them. However, I disagree wit
26 GuitrThree : Listen, Cindy Sheehan has every damn right to say what she pleases. That's what this country is all about. I, also, have every damn right to call her
27 Cambrian : As a Brit, I find it amazing that Cindy Sheehan has incurred such wrath from the thought police in the "land of the free". What happened to free speec
28 Solarix : Sheehan doesn't give a shit about our country or our troops. I'm sure Hugo Chavez was delighted to hear about her son dying in Iraq while fighting the
29 Post contains links Skyway1 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law[Edited 2006-01-25 06:12:08]
30 Clipperhawaii : Thought police? Wrath? Typical "Brit don't have a clue sticking his nose in the business of the U.S. public" response. Free speech in the U.S. is ali
31 Nosedive : Yes, you have a right to say that, and I have the right to think "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?" But since when is loving Bush a prerequisite to loving Amer
32 MattCLE : Where's that 'Obsession' picture? -Matt
33 Cambrian : So much for the so-called "unique" Special Relationship that your illustrious leader mentioned in his speech in Kansas yesterday. As for not having a
34 Solarix : You don't have to love Bush to love America. But Cindy Sheehan loving Hugo Chavez totally proves she does not love America. I find it amazing she bit
35 Post contains images Nosedive : That's almost as if she forced him into the military, but I get what you're saying. you save that for the French
36 Clipperhawaii : You're kidding right? How laughable. Ms. Sheehan did not give up her son for her country. Casey Sheehan gave up HIS life for his country. And for tha
37 GuitrThree : It's not. But when you devote your life to it, well, that's over the line. This lady has NO business being the "media spokesperson" for the anti-Amer
38 Cambrian : Why should you be grateful for the war in Iraq? America was not threatened by Iraq in any way, nor was there any link with Al Qaeda, Niger etc. If Am
39 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : Stop.............reread his post........ Don't pull more bullshit into this than is needed. He didn't say that he was eternally grateful for the war
40 Clipperhawaii : *Yawn* That's the trouble here. People want to read what THEY want to believe and not read what is said. Enough already with the clown routine.
41 Nosedive : Sorry, I didn't even know what she looked like until this thread. Yes. I see a country that seriously needs to stop worrying so damn much about someo
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