Clipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 13 Posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 975 times:
Ahhhh yeah sure.
Rolling Stone has to do something to boost lagging sales by putting a photo of West as Christ on their cover. Too bad they have to offend a few people to do it.
I wonder if Rolling Stone would put a photo of say Martin Luther King as a homosexual in pink tights? Would we be as happy with that? Probably not I'd dare say.
Let's not offend anyone Rolling Stone and try to be sensitive to your readers.
Usnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 55 Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 944 times:
AirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 930 times:
STLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8976 posts, RR: 28 Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 920 times:
I think anything Mel Brooks' has done to poke fun at Je$u$ or Moses (while I find it all utterly hilarious) would be more 'offensive' by association than a black Je$u$.
But look at how Like A Prayer turned out. Classic!
Quoting Clipperhawaii (Thread starter): I wonder if Rolling Stone would put a photo of say Martin Luther King as a homosexual in pink tights? Would we be as happy with that? Probably not I'd dare say.
He wanted equal rights, didn't he?
Quoting Superfly (Reply 5): Big deal.
I still don't see why there would be any outrage over this.
exactly.
[Edited 2006-01-25 11:25:54]
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Gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3460 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 918 times:
Is it really neccessary for you to object to anything that's even the slightest bit contraversial? You've posted a thread like this once or twice a week since I've joined a.net. No disrespect intended here, this just doesn't seem like it's worth getting that excited about...the guy thinks "Gold Digger" was the best song of 2005! I think music is going down the shitter too Kanye, but I'll give it a little more credit than that.
STLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8976 posts, RR: 28 Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 915 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 8): I always thought that it was silly to portray Jesus as a White man with blue eyes and blonde hair. Look at the region Jesus came from.
exactly, and the way he was able to get his hair to grow out. dude was stylin.
i always liked his shoes, though, and a few years ago at Saks Fifth Avenue i found a pair of D & G sandals that were severely marked down that looked just like Je$u$'s shoes. i couldn't pass up the opportunity to get them and to this day everyone comments on them being Je$u$ sandals when i wear them.
if i come to Vegas, i'll bring them just for you.
[Edited 2006-01-25 11:26:14]
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Brendan03 From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 951 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 903 times:
I think it's sad that he's posing as a saviour (of any kind) and posing as a hard done by black man from the ghettos when he's nothing more than a spoiled little rich kid from Chicago... I mean... come on... Why wouldn't someone find this insulting?
Gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3460 posts, RR: 11 Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 902 times:
Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 11): I think it's sad that he's posing as a saviour (of any kind) and posing as a hard done by black man from the ghettos when he's nothing more than a spoiled little rich kid from Chicago... I mean... come on... Why wouldn't someone find this insulting?
This is actually a relevant point. I guess I don't know much about Kanye's upbringing...do you have some sources to back your "spoiled little rich kid" statement up? Not trying to stir the pot, just looking for some reason why anybody should care about this.
Brendan03 From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 951 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 900 times:
Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 12): do you have some sources to back your "spoiled little rich kid" statement up?
I don't now, No - I read it a while ago on my old computer (which is now dead) - I'll try and find it for you but no promises (It may not have even been true... even still It's stupid for anyone to pose as someone who's a saviour to an entire religeon)
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 38485 posts, RR: 80 Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 896 times:
What difference does it make what Kanye West's upbringing was?
Unless Clipperhawaii or likeminded clone can come up with a concrete reason to be outraged, people will see it as his skin color being the main issue.
Would Clipperhawaii be upset if it were Denzel Washington or Blair Underwood portraying Jesus?
Gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3460 posts, RR: 11 Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 896 times:
Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 13): still It's stupid for anyone to pose as someone who's a saviour to an entire religeon)
Why? Jesus doesn't mean much to me, but I still think Kanye West is pretty stupid. Those of you that object to this photo shoot should be asking why Kanye is posing as Christ (i.e. "what's the symbolism here?") instead of just posting objections on a.net. Not to say that this is a particularly earth-shattering moment in American culture, but the world would be a pretty boring place if somebody didn't stir the pot every once in awhile. By freaking out over this magazine cover, you're giving a self-indulgent celebrity exactly what he wants. Ignore it and let it go.
STLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8976 posts, RR: 28 Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 886 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 10): STLGph:
You know it's ironic. If someone who looked like Jesus walked in to a fundmentalist Christian (Baptist) church today, he'd be kicked out!
Quoting Superfly (Reply 14): Would Clipperhawaii be upset if it were Denzel Washington or Blair Underwood portraying Jesus?
yes
Quoting Superfly (Reply 14): No one is accusing you yet Clipperhawaii.
too late!
Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 11): I think it's sad that he's posing as a saviour (of any kind) and posing as a hard done by black man from the ghettos when he's nothing more than a spoiled little rich kid from Chicago... I mean... come on... Why wouldn't someone find this insulting?
it's okay for Ted Neeley, white rocker, to play Je$u$ but a black man can't.
hrmmm. however, i bet you loved Yvonne Elliman as Mary Magdalene.
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Brendan03 From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 951 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 886 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 17): How about Mel Gibson and many other actors in the past that have?
Have you seen the movie 'Last Temptation of Christ'?
No real interest... You mean "The passion of the christ" ? Or something else...
I'm an athiest, I mean, If they're playing the part of jesus that's telling a story in a visual form... I don't think It's so bad, but you've made me second guess myself and I'm not really sure what I think now...
I just don't believe in anyone saying that they are a re-incarnation (or the sorts) of Christ himself (I'm an athiest but I don't think doing something like this is very respectful to a religeon)
Just like those Jesus/Mary is my Home boy/girl Shirts
STLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8976 posts, RR: 28 Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 885 times:
Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 19):
Just like those Jesus/Mary is my Home boy/girl Shirts
those are great!
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Gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3460 posts, RR: 11 Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 885 times:
The skin-color factor is interesting. I recall similar outrage back in 1999 when Nas and Puff Daddy appeared in the "Hate Me Now" video on crosses with crowns of thorns. Puff Daddy had his scenes withdrawn before the video aired, but Nas stood his ground and caused quite a stir. I suppose we can't make a lot of inferences off of this since there's not really any equivalent to this where a white man is posing as Christ, but you raise a good point.
To be honest, I think they're amusing but I still think they're disrespectful but in the saying that, If I see someone wearing them out in public, I don't really pay much more attention than I notice them and thats it
I guess I'm conflicted on what I think, I guess It's not all that bad though...
The fact that Kanye West is depicted as Christ makes me want to subscribe to Rolling Stone -- but only so that I can immediately cancel it with a scorching, and condemnatory, complaint.
25 Usnseallt82: I didn't see Mel claiming his addiction for pornography while casting for Jesus: http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Musi.../24/people.kanyewest.ap/index
26 CactusA319: I think it was stated best in "The Big Lebowski": "You don't f*ck with the Jesus." Especially not if you're black and half of the US population think
27 AerospaceFan: Sure did. I wonder how long will it be before they pose Madonna as, well... the Madonna?
28 ConcordeBoy: No Joke! What's even more amusing are the ones who actually get upset/offended when the man's not shown as white! ...as if it's a violation of what's
29 Srbmod: This was mentioned on Howard Stern this morning, mainly because about 10 or so years ago, Howard was photographed for a Rolling Stone cover doing the
30 N229NW: Even more ironic that if he walked into some of those same churches preaching what he actually preached about tolerance and charity and loving thy ne
31 WellHung: Looks disturbingly similar to: Yet I don't recall any objections to the movie poster. Objections to the movie itself, yes. But I can't remember anyon
32 VSLover: yes, such a shame. its too bad other major broadcast companies and the US government cannot kowtow to the evangelicals for fear of sensitivity and lo
33 ConcordeBoy: ...or bring back Celebrity Death Match!
35 MD-90: And you know that because you've spent how many years as a member of fundamentalist Baptist church...? I don't read Rolling Stone, never will subscri
36 AA777: Did any of you think that maybe he isnt posing AS Christ, but rather comparing himself to Christ in some way...? I think it would have been a lot more
37 Clipperhawaii: Came across this little tid bit on a blog. "If he's REALLY trying to get attention, he should've posed as Mohammad instead of Jesus. But of course the
38 Usnseallt82: Yeah, but I think its more because this guy is just an idiot. If it were anyone else, it would probably cause some dissension and chaos, but not as m
39 CactusA319: It means some people have a problem with a black person portraying themselves as Jesus on a magazine cover. As much people try to downplay it, racism