Sponsor Message:
Non Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
The Axis Of Homophobia  
User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2480 times:

Interesting little story...

http://uk.gay.com/headlines/9523

In a vote as to whether two lesbian and gay groups should join the UN’s Economic and Social Council, the US joined Iran, Zimbabwe, China, Cameroon and Egypt in blocking the groups. Strange bedfellows indeed...

129 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2463 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Thread starter):
the US joined Iran, Zimbabwe, China, Cameroon and Egypt in blocking the groups

Three words W....T....F???????


User currently offlineBR076 From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 1086 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2457 times:

The land of the free, right  Yeah sure


ú
User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2452 times:

Quoting BR076 (Reply 2):
The land of the free, right

BUT if you change the punctuation..

"The land of the free right". Now that's more like the reality.  Wink


User currently offlineAPFPilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2448 times:

are you guys having fun with your little american CJ?

User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2448 times:

It is to much about gay and gay rights. 1-2 % of the population in any country is homosexual. But the gay lobbyist have a much larger voice. And that is not real democracy when small but strong groups takes over the agenda.

User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3769 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2443 times:

So can we safely say now that the US is as fucked up as those other countries?  duck 

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 2438 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 5):
1-2 % of the population in any country is homosexual.

Actually, it is more like 10%



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineKevinl1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 48
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 2430 times:

In my 15 years of independent business ownership, I find Gays and Lesbians typically (i'm going to generalize here) more financially responsible, better organized and better educated (in general) than the average client. The UN can only benefit.

My only "homophobic" moment was in 1978 at a "New York Dolls" concert at the Hollywood Palladium. I went alone and got "hit on" by a couple of guys and I didn't know how to react. I wound up asking a lesbian couple if I could sit with them to appear straight (which I am). They got a chuckle out of it and joked THEY didn't want to appear straight! Later, I offered to buy a round of drinks but they made it clear that was where they drew the line. I respected that.



474218, Carl, You will be missed.
User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 2424 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
Actually, it is more like 10%

No. People who ONLY have sex with people of the same sex is 1-2 % of the population.

A US survey of more than 10,000 persons by the National Center for Health Statistics indicates that homosexuals and bisexuals combined amount to approximately 1.5 percent of the population (in the USA).


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 2406 times:

Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 4):
are you guys having fun with your little american CJ?

nothing worth saying?

No answer?

Thought not. If in doubt, make a cheap shot. How very Karl Rove of you. Unfortunately it doesn't hide the truth, does it?


User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 2404 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 5):
1-2 % of the population in any country is homosexual.

Actually, it is more like 10%

Both numbers are likely incorrect. The Kinsey report which "established" the 10% figure in the 1940's used very liberals terms in questioning, whereas the more recent Guttmacher study which yielded the 1.1% number used ridiculously strict terms. The effect was that under Kinsey, if you had ever engaged in sexual contact with a person of the same sex, you were counted as "homosexual", whereas with Guttmacher the opposite was the case. The truth, naturally, is somewhere in-between.

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 5):
And that is not real democracy when small but strong groups takes over the agenda.

The purpose of a democracy is to protect the rights of the minorities. It is actually a very detrimental system for the goals of the majority, but that's why we picked it - by 1789 we were all sick of being dominated.



Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 2396 times:

So who else voted against the inclusion of those two groups? I'll bet it wasn't just those six nations. Seems like gay.com wanted to put their spin on it to make it look especially bad.

Despite receiving some support initially, the vote blocked the groups joining.

So, out of 191 voting member states, six were able to vote down the proposal. Just six, right? Heaven forbid that we ever agree with Iran about anything, eh?


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 2391 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 9):
A US survey of more than 10,000 persons by the National Center for Health Statistics indicates that homosexuals and bisexuals combined amount to approximately 1.5 percent of the population (in the USA).

Which was completely skewed and false. Honestly Bofredrik, I expect more from you



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineAPFPilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 2391 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 10):
Thought not. If in doubt, make a cheap shot. How very Karl Rove of you. Unfortunately it doesn't hide the truth, does it?

Did you read what I wrote about it in your other thread? Go do that and then come back and apologize.

I can't find anything else about this anywhere on the web including the UN's website. Can you provide another source Whitehatter?

[Edited 2006-01-26 09:53:54]

User currently offlineIRelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1073 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 2378 times:

It doesn't surprise me. Don't say "the US" though. Use the term "The Bush Administration". There are parts of the US that are very overtly homophobic and parts that are neutral or even pro-homo. Same with almost every other country, except on a larger scale.

Despite what a lot of people may think, the US is a pretty liberal country compared with almost every other nation on the planet. Sometimes a few loudmouths will pretend to represent the majority and drown out all of the other voices, but rest assured the US is not as f***ed up in this area as you may have assumed reading the news.

-IR


User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 2376 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
Which was completely skewed and false. Honestly Bofredrik, I expect more from you

Sorry! That survey was not approved by the Gay groups...

We can take Canada & Australia then...

CANADA
1.3% of men and 0.7% of women considered themselves homosexual.
0.9% of women, compared with 0.6% of men, said they were bisexual.
Source: Canadian Community Health Survey, June 2004. A Canadian government survey of 83,000 people. Ref: Statistics Canada.

Australia
Nationwide figure - 1.2% of adults identify as homosexual or lesbian.
* 1.6% of adult men identified as homosexual and 0.8% of women as lesbian.
* 1.4% of women and 0.9% of men said they were bisexual.
Source: The 2003 'Sex in Australia' survey of 20,000 people, with a special weighting to Sydney's homosexual centre. Conducted by the Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health & Society (ARCSHS) at La Trobe University. Published in Australian & NZ Journal of Public Health, Vol 27 No 2 2003 ISSN 1326 0200.


User currently offlineAPFPilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 2374 times:

Funny how you leave all of this out
(fair use from wikipedia; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...n_and_Gay_Association"Controversy and loss of UN consultative status)

In the summer of 1993 the ILGA gained consultative status on the UN Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) as a Non-Governmental-Organization, joining 3,000 organisations throughout the world. However, that status was suspended in 1994 after a campaign led by Jesse Helms focussing on NAMBLA's membership in ILGA. ILGA members voted 214-30 to expel three pedophile groups but despite this was not able to convince the UN that it had no member organisations that promoted pedophilia.
ILGA had passed a resolution in 1985 which stated that "young people have the right to sexual and social self-determination and that age of consent laws often operate to oppress and not to protect." In spite of this apparent agreement with NAMBLA on the age of consent issue just nine years before, ILGA, by a vote of 214-30 expelled NAMBLA and two other groups (MARTIJN and Project Truth) in early 1994 because they were judged to be "groups whose predominant aim is to support or promote pedophilia." The UN removed ILGA's consultative status "based on concerns raised about its member organizations or subsidiaries that promoted or condoned paedophilia". [3]
ILGA applied to have its consultative status reinstated in 2000 [4], but on 30 April 2002 the United Nations' Economic & Social Council voted 29-17 not to grant this application. [5] The Washington Times reported that opponents blocked ILGA's attempt to regain consultative status because the association had not provided sufficient evidence that it had eliminated NAMBLA and the other pedophile groups from its membership roster, ILGA having refused to provide UN officials with a list of its member organizations. ILGA justified keeping its membership secret on the grounds that, in many countries, homosexual activity is still criminalised and such a list would identify its groups and put them in danger. [6]


User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3621 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2335 times:

There is no way in hell 10% of the American population is truly homosexual.

User currently offlineNordair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2335 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Thread starter):
n a vote as to whether two lesbian and gay groups should join the UN’s Economic and Social Council, the US joined Iran, Zimbabwe, China, Cameroon and Egypt in blocking the groups

Somewhere in Cleveland someone is doing a happy dance.  Smile


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20542 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2279 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 5):
And that is not real democracy when small but strong groups takes over the agenda.

Name one democracy on planet earth. (I know, the U.S. will come to mind, maybe Germany and France, but they're all republics.)

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 18):
There is no way in hell 10% of the American population is truly homosexual.

And there is no way that so many would get their fanny in a baws over 1.5% of the population, either.



International Homo of Mystery
User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2269 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Thread starter):
US joined Iran, Zimbabwe, China, Cameroon and Egypt in blocking the groups.

Just like the US executes a number of people just like Saudi Arabia and China...  Smile



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineFrequentflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 736 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2253 times:

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 18):
There is no way in hell 10% of the American population is truly homosexual.

Is that an abstract concept or a wish?

Open your eyes a bit.



Take off and live
User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2239 times:

Do any of the people here who are complaining about the US action to block this particular group have a comment about the following?

"The UN removed ILGA's consultative status "based on concerns raised about its member organizations or subsidiaries that promoted or condoned paedophilia". [3] ILGA applied to have its consultative status reinstated in 2000 [4], but on 30 April 2002 the United Nations' Economic & Social Council voted 29-17 not to grant this application. [5] The Washington Times reported that opponents blocked ILGA's attempt to regain consultative status because the association had not provided sufficient evidence that it had eliminated NAMBLA and the other pedophile groups from its membership roster, ILGA having refused to provide UN officials with a list of its member organizations."

The reason I ask is that I was just about to join the "what a stupid move by the US" crowd when I read this, because I don't see why a gay rights group ought to be excluded from membership in the UN as a NGO. However, if it is true that the ILGA refuses to sever its ties with a group that promotes pedophilia, why should they be be allowed back in the economic and social council?


User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2239 times:

F***´m faggots

signed,
George W Bush.



Dida, Cafu, Lucio, Roque Junior, Roberto Carlo, Emerson, Ze Roberto, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Adriano, Robinho, Ronaldo
25 Post contains images Frequentflyer : In my opinion gay groups should be relentless in their fight against those sick people.
26 AeroWesty : And the reason for excluding the Danish group?
27 Halls120 : Don't know why they were excluded. If it wasn't for the same reason as the ILGA, then they should be allowed back in.
28 Dougloid : Nothing new here. I did the same as you, I googled the subject and came up with the same results-not only the same results but a history of votes on
29 DrDeke : Oh really? So we should deny rights (that everyone else gets) to 1-2% of the population, and it is "too much" to talk about not doing so? If we don't
30 ConcordeBoy : Correct. You couldn't possibly be more wrong: A true democracy, as mentioned by Bofrederik, is little more than a sanctioned state of perpetual mob m
31 APFPilot1985 : I have a hunch it may be because they all were on the same resolution and it was a one or nothing thing. Funny that we haven't heard from whitehatter
32 Post contains images Redngold : I think it's funny that the gay and lesbian community wants to be accepted into the mainstream... and then goes ballistic when it isn't acknowledged a
33 Erikwilliam : what is that supposed to mean?
34 ConcordeBoy : I'll 2nd... what the heck was that supposed to me??
35 Dvk : You are absolutely hopeless. Since you are unwilling to be educated, but insist on interjecting your bitc** opinion into every gay thread, why don't
36 A332 : Since when are gays/lesbians a 'race'...? Oh wait... remark posted by the board's favorite fundamentalist: Redngold... 'nuff said.
37 Falcon84 : Yes, welcome to United States foreign policy defined by wacked-out Christian Fundamentalists with an ax to grind against those they hate. If you had
38 APFPilot1985 : and if you did a little bit of your own research instead of relying on what is provided to you, you would see that the ILGA, used to be recognized by
39 AeroWesty : I think it's funny that the radical fundamentalist christian community wants to be accepted into the mainstream.
40 MD-90 : Oh, so they didn't interview men in prison, like Kinsey did, to get his 10% number? If it doesn't support your position, then it must be completely s
41 CXA330300 : Bloody bastard Bush is.......the difference between him and bin Laden is one wears a turban and the other a cross, Many LGBTs are in the closet their
42 APFPilot1985 : Have you just glossed over all of the reasoning for the vote that has been provided in this thread in order to satiate your rabid need for america ba
43 Dvk : You have absolutely no basis in life experience for making such a statement. And by the way, Kinsey interviewed far many more people who were not in
44 Searpqx : This is not a slam, but a fundamentalist christian virgin is the last person I would consider the definitive or even credible source for determining
45 Falcon84 : Dude, I wasn't even addressing that point. MD-90 wanted to know who voted against it, and I provided the information. I didn't even comment on the IL
46 Post contains images Redngold : There is only one global race: the human race. The rate of genetic variation between "races" is identical to the variation within individual "races."
47 Post contains images JeffSFO : So much for the Civil Rights movement then...
48 APFPilot1985 : When you follow it up with a comment like that though. Granted the Nations we voted with might be pretty tyrannic ones, but that doesn't change the f
49 Falcon84 : It also doesn't change the fact that the "Land of the free" is lead by a bunch of homophobes.
50 APFPilot1985 : So because they said the expelled NAMBLA they should be taken at their word? Why is it a big deal to provide proof?
51 Searpqx : I normally just ignore you, but I can't pass these up. Every gay person I know is perfectly happy to be treated just like everyone else, but WE'RE NO
52 MDorBust : As reported by the ILGA, this vote: 10 against 5 for 4 abstain 2002 vote 29 against 17 for Now, either ECOSOC has really shrunk, or something isn't be
53 Falcon84 : With all respect, my friend, tell the President that, because it is he and his party that tries to make gays second class citizens. It's repugnant to
54 APFPilot1985 : I'll agree with you on that, however I am sure that even an abstain would have triggered this kind of thread.
55 AeroWesty : The real question here is whether or not gays and lesbians should be included in debates on social issues before the UN. I think we should. We're par
56 Post contains links APFPilot1985 : Because if you go back and read, they were on the same resolution, it was an all or nothing vote. http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2006/ecosoc6184.d
57 We're Nuts : I'm curious about what would constitute "proof". Pedophiles are very good at hiding. Are we talking Spanish Inquisition? Cheney's Little-Shop-O'-Horr
58 Jalto27R : Always gotta have the American bashers pop into these topics. America is a rather liberal country; sorry if our politicians stopped caring about their
59 AeroWesty : They voted on the applications of 11 groups. 9 passed, 2 didn't. How is that all or nothing?
60 APFPilot1985 : Nope, Just a membership roster would be sufficient i am sure. Nice try bringing the Bush Administration into it though. "The Washington Times reporte
61 AeroWesty : Note the plurals in your link: "by votes of 10 in favour of denying the applications to 5 against, with 3 abstentions, in both cases. "Emphasizing th
62 Searpqx : Well, that full article just blew any question in my mind out of the water. It's funny that our government can find common ground with Iran, as long a
63 PA110 : I was happy to sit this discussion out on the sidelines. As a gay man, I find anything to do with NAMBLA completely repugnant. However I did have to
64 Halls120 : Given the wide variety of NGO's with consultative status in the UN, it really makes no sense to prevent anyone from belonging. And after all, the UN
65 Beefstew25 : How is being bisexual making a choice?
66 APFPilot1985 : Well I'm sorry I read that wrong. I can't see any reason why the Danish NGO was blocked... I would be interested to know who these other countries we
67 Searpqx : Actually it was more a rhetorical statement than one of real surprise. Politics has always been about the art of the possible (and convenient), and t
68 Post contains images Redngold : Oh dear... Someone forgot the rule about flamebaiting... You interpret that because you've decided to have a personal animosity towards me, which I d
69 Beefstew25 : Way to display a complete lack of class....
70 VSLover : well at least we can be continually reminded about the rules that you so conveniently run for cover behind anytime you say anything "sarcastic" becau
71 Post contains links AeroWesty : They may well have been summarized by Chaucer, but he didn't invent them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins I adore the punishment for g
72 777236ER : What a joke. You don't know anyone well enough to say their relationship is a sinful one, yet you do it all the time. Saying someone's sexuality is s
73 MD-90 : 1. I can and do read 2. 2-3% is valid within my own experience, not just in Mississippi and Alabama but also Connecticut.
74 VSLover : at least an individual can make a decision to change his/her ways on that...most of the time.
75 777236ER : Exactly my point...I think? You're a virgin!
76 AeroWesty : Now see, I took that to mean he's had it off with all 2-3% of them!
77 Dvk : Red, every time you inflict your form of "education" on gay people, you are making a personal attack on each and everyone of us. You just think you'r
78 Redngold : Me: homosexual behavior is a sin. You: You're ignorant. Me: I am a sinner, everyone is a sinner. You: Your parents are bad people. See the difference
79 AeroWesty : OK, why do we need a UN Council on Women?
80 MD-90 : You don't have to have sex with someone to know if he considers himself to be straight or gay or whatever.
81 VSLover : kinda, yes. i speak for myself, and you speak for jesus, and put words in my mouth. because you've shown such interest over the last few posts of you
82 AeroWesty : (But I thought that was the whole point! Don't ask, don't tell! Don't let anyone know you're gay or straight--be asexual! Hurrah!)
83 777236ER : Saying homosexuality is a sin is a personal attack on the behaviour of members here. It doesn't matter whether it's a specific attack or not. Given f
84 777236ER : I promise you a lot of your straight-edge Bible bashing friends have 'engaged in homosexual realtions'. Doesn't mean they'll tell you.
85 Post contains links Redngold : Put words in your mouth? I'm referring to http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/1073708/ posts 27 (comment about my parents) an
86 Searpqx : Like I said, not a slam - but the very nature of your life, who you associate with, what you believe, your very values, reduce you're exposure to the
87 VSLover : because again, THANK GOD the dictaphones of his time were as reliable as those of modern times. lets get something straight. i am not engaging in a "
88 ConcordeBoy : unless some'n has changed... admitted homosexuals aren't allowed to donate blood to anyone ....of which you apparently have very little (in this rega
89 VSLover : but back on topic....yes, this all is kind of weird--but after a hearty discussion here, i think we've found a new member of that axis.
90 EWROwznj00 : Really?
91 APFPilot1985 : Yep, but that is for anohter thread
92 Post contains links VSLover : no offense, but are you serious? if so, take a look at this thread: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/1085761/
93 Redngold : Well, I say what I believe, especially if nobody else has yet represented. Someone should. Wouldn't want this discussion to be one-sided now, would w
94 VSLover : conceited much? but glad to see, for once, i didnt have to spell it out for you.
95 777236ER : No one's censoring you. We just think you're an idiot.
96 JpetekYXMD80 : Although that statement im sure fuels much skepticism, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here. You are the one whom has lived through y
97 Post contains links AeroWesty : If I began posting on the Catholic church's views on homosexuality vs. the Pope's views on "love" in this thread: First Benedict XVI Encyclical Lette
98 Redngold : Well, you and the massive group of people posting in this thread have certainly marginalized me. Or are you simply exaggerating the importance of my
99 AeroWesty : Back it up. Show me post by post where I've marginalized you without you tossing the first hoop onto the ring. I've got all night. Do it right.
100 Post contains images Gilligan : ????Try to protect the unalienable rights of the individual from the government. Really? Is that why, with few exceptions, the majority vote getter g
101 Searpqx : You really are amazing - you're very first post in the thread, which was talking about irony of the US siding w/ Iran in an anti-gay vote, was confro
102 Falcon84 : That was an assinine and totally uncalled for statement, Dvk, no matter what you feel the subject at hand is. I think you owe the lady an apology. Be
103 Post contains images JpetekYXMD80 : Ignored . What a shock, I must say. Make a completely legitimate comparison for Redngold and that is what she ignores. Perhaps it was too legitimate.
104 Searpqx : Exactly, and yet, laws that discriminate or allow discrimination, on that basis continue to exist, and new ones are being proposed with frightening f
105 Gilligan : Do you have an extra arm or leg? Does homosexuality infer some sort of mental challenge? I fail to understand how, other than the sex you sleep with,
106 Redngold : I said nothing about that. That's what I addressed, and I stand by it. Crying? - nope - pointing out another double standard. Seeing as people dissec
107 Post contains images AeroWesty : I guess I won't be getting the cites of chapter and verse to back up the claims made against me in Reply 99. Guess that says it all, doesn't it?
108 KiwiinOz : Not wanting to take the topic too far off topic by making sweeping statements, (well maybe I would!). I can't believe that the USA believes it represe
109 Post contains images Redngold : Here comes the "demanded" reply to AeroWesty in #100 and #108. "Not mainstream" generally means "marginal." Non-mainstream minority" also generally me
110 AeroWesty : What was that you said earlier? "You lose."
111 Halls120 : only if you accept being marginalized. When I was young and foolish, I was a rabid liberal democrat who was an vocal and active McGovern supporter. I
112 Post contains images Redngold : You sent me an I.M. asking me why I didn't answer your question... I kinda thought it was settled. You want the truth? Okay, I'll expose this difficu
113 Post contains images Redngold : I don't, which is why I keep speaking out. Hmmm... Pointing out irony seems to have been misinterpreted as a complaint. So you admit an attempt to ma
114 AeroWesty : Sure is! You shot the bullet and played the role of the victim all in one, then accused everyone else of having a hand on the gun after the fact. Sha
115 JpetekYXMD80 : I didn't ask anything, and I really did not desire that type of reply. That paragraph was the least meaningful of anything i said. Why don't you go b
116 Post contains links Redngold : It is a challenge, one that is extremely difficult to deal with - either one. I think I've acknowledged that in the past. See: http://www.airliners.n
117 Dvk : Nooooo, she didn't attack me personally. Telling me to isn't a personal attack, huh? Sorry, but no apology. I don't give a damn if the post is delete
118 Searpqx : Sex is a physical act - homosexuality is about a lot more than the physical act of sex with another man (or woman). I'm a homosexual because I bond w
119 CXA330300 : Well I actually earned the right to live in the United States, rather than you, who was born with it. Even though I completely disagree with Redngold
120 Gilligan : But that's exactly what it is, a coalition of minorities combining their efforts and votes to acheive a majority. It's not that they are or should be
121 Klaus : If you want to push yourself ever deeper into the closet until you're suffocating that's your (unfortunate) choice - but simply closing your eyes bef
122 Redngold : Perhaps a poor choice of words: I wasn't trying to say that you aren't human. You are human, I am human, we're all one human race. I was trying to sa
123 VSLover : *cough* horse$hit *cough* absolutly, 1000% wrong. she is indeed making a personal attack though her condescending, self-righteous statements fully in
124 Post contains images Lehpron : Democracy generally implies majority rules. The flaw in democracy is that if the majority stays the same the majoitry always wins. I think it was the
125 Kiwiandrew : What I never understand about this is how people bring their own personal religion in to the debate and try to apply it to everybody else .... wake u
126 Searpqx : No, in fact I just posted in one. But the big difference from what I see you do time and again, and my posting in those, is that what I post is my op
127 Legend500 : A major and significant difference exists between religious belief and sexual orientation. Consider: Under torture, there are many things one can do
128 Post contains links We're Nuts : We live under a liberal democracy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy#Liberal_democracy In brief it means no matter how powerful the majority get
129 KROC : Well done people. This thread has gotten completely out of hand. Whether its users calling Redngold a pie eater or attacking her weight, or Redngolds
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
The UN Security Council And The 'Axis Of Weasels' posted Thu Feb 27 2003 23:49:21 by I LOVE EWR
BBC: Holidays In The Axis Of Evil posted Tue Jan 28 2003 21:18:15 by Ben
George Bush And The Axis Of Evil - The Economist posted Mon Feb 11 2002 18:55:23 by Eg777er
'Axis Of Evil' Countries Feeling The Heat posted Tue Apr 15 2003 14:10:25 by TechRep
The Drama That Is The Life Of TedTAce (don't.. posted Fri Mar 23 2007 21:30:30 by TedTAce
The Song Of The Day Thread! posted Wed Mar 21 2007 20:00:25 by SandroZRH
The Return Of The Friday Stupid Thread posted Fri Mar 16 2007 11:45:22 by UTA_FlyingHigh
Memory To The Victims Of Madrid Bombings(3 Years ) posted Sun Mar 11 2007 18:09:17 by RootsAir
The Begining Of Justice For Jessica Lunsford posted Wed Mar 7 2007 22:21:55 by TedTAce
The Violin Of Pity posted Fri Mar 2 2007 23:35:20 by SmithAir747