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User currently offlineAirworldA320 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 316 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1674 times:

To all you GB rail enthusiasts what is your opinion of the Class 47 locomotive, mine is, good looking and great sounding workhorse. http://www.class47gallery.co.uk/gall...gesphoto/47477-newport-070392.html


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User currently offlineSATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1664 times:

I must be predisposed to American designs, because that unit doesn't look very good to me. Also, how come those units have bumpers (for lack of a better term) and US units do not?


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User currently offlineGman94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1662 times:

I love the old diesel locomotives as you say great sounding but my all time favourite is the Class 43, Intercity 125. http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=57423


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User currently offlineAirworldA320 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1661 times:

Quoting SATX (Reply 1):
I must be predisposed to American designs, because that unit doesn't look very good to me. Also, how come those units have bumpers (for lack of a better term) and US units do not?

We do have American designs here in the UK

http://www.miac.btinternet.co.uk/66003.htm
http://www.class67.co.uk/main.htm

Both built by GM in Canada and the US

[Edited 2006-01-27 00:04:33]

[Edited 2006-01-27 00:06:08]


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User currently offlineStuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1644 times:

Sorry, NOTHING has the rugged good looks and brute pulling power of the GE AC6000CW!

http://64.246.11.82/images/2/2003_1013_130326AA.JPG.70921.jpg
http://64.246.11.82/images/m/MVC-010F.JPG.41160.jpg

Except, perhaps, the good old Dash 9 in AT&SF colors!

http://64.246.11.82/images/s/SF_659_Kingman_Canyon_Wed_050495.jpg.65189.jpg


User currently offlineAirworldA320 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1640 times:

Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 4):
Sorry, NOTHING has the rugged good looks and brute pulling power of the GE AC6000CW!




Except, perhaps, the good old Dash 9 in AT&SF colors!





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Gotta admit cannot beat that!!!!!!



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User currently offlineGman94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1626 times:

Quoting SATX (Reply 1):
Also, how come those units have bumpers (for lack of a better term) and US units do not?

They are like shock absorbers that match up with train carriages and the buffers at railway passenger terminals in the UK. You can just make out the red buffer in the bottom right hand corner of this picture.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=117814



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User currently offlineStuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

Quoting AirworldA320 (Reply 5):
Gotta admit cannot beat that!!!!!!

Hey, those 47's are good ol' power units, too! And they'll keep you out of the rain if you have to work on them! I'd love to see one of them working some day! From what I've read, they have a very unique sound.


User currently offlineAirworldA320 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 7):
Hey, those 47's are good ol' power units, too! And they'll keep you out of the rain if you have to work on them! I'd love to see one of them working some day! From what I've read, they have a very unique sound.

http://www.brdw.co.uk/sounds.html
Just look under Class 47!!!!!



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User currently offlineStuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1606 times:

Quoting AirworldA320 (Reply 8):
Just look under Class 47!!!!!

Looks like the stuff I read was correct! They sound a lot like a radial aircraft engine idling. It's also really easy to hear the turbo spooling up!

Have you seen this site? See if it looks familiar!
http://www.railpictures.net/


User currently offlineAirworldA320 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1602 times:

Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 9):
Looks like the stuff I read was correct! They sound a lot like a radial aircraft engine idling. It's also really easy to hear the turbo spooling up!(Sulzer diesel)

Have you seen this site? See if it looks familiar!
http://www.railpictures.net/

Nothing can beat the CL47 but give me your GM SD-70MAC and I might be pursuaded!!!!

[Edited 2006-01-27 00:57:47]


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User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3702 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1581 times:
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The Class 47's looked best in the two tone BR green with the yellow panels.

Unfortunately I can remember when they all looked like that.


User currently offlineCandid76 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 742 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

Maybe Americans would be more familiar with the sound of a class 57 (which still retains the good looks of a class 47 of course)

User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

Quoting VC-10 (Reply 11):
The Class 47's looked best in the two tone BR green with the yellow panels.

Unfortunately I can remember when they all looked like that.

... and they had easy to remember 4 digit numbers. My favourite and the one that always seemed to be at Paddington when I went was D1661 "North Star". A quick check revealed that although no longer in traffic, this loco has so far avoided the cutters torch. It will be 41 next month.


User currently offlineMattWS From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 40 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1476 times:

Your research isn't quite correct, D1661 became 47077, then 47613 and is now 47840 and was noted only two days ago taking some scrap slam-door trains from South London to Essex for scrapping.

The locomotive has become something of a celebrity in recent years since it was repainted in the old 1970's style BR Blue.



Matt


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1448 times:

I used to live in Glasgow and travelled to Edinburgh pretty regularly in the early 80s. The service then was a 47/7 coupled to a push-pull set with a driving cab on the other end, pretty unique at the time. It was fast too.

That was a great ride! So with the diesel hauled trains I used to catch from Manchester to Preston (electric to Glasgow) I got to ride behind a lot of Classs 47 locos.

Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 7):
From what I've read, they have a very unique sound.

The 47 has a Sulzer engine, nice sounding power unit. They were the workhorse for the old British Rail, and the American-owned EWS inherited quite a few too. Nowadays some have been reborn with a GM power unit and classed as the 57, but with the same box shape.

There were also a lot of engines at the same time which had the classic 'American' profile such as the 40, Peaks, 37s and Deltics. But the 47 was truly the workhorse of the network.


User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

I'm curious as to why Diesel (and Electric) locos aren't streamlined like their coal-burning predecessors, and instead present a blunt profile. Is it because that the overall aerodynamics of the train set makes this a small gain? Even the Amtrak Metroliner loco, a 120+ mph train, has a blunt nose.

User currently offlineStuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

Quoting Comorin (Reply 16):
I'm curious as to why Diesel (and Electric) locos aren't streamlined like their coal-burning predecessors, and instead present a blunt profile. Is it because that the overall aerodynamics of the train set makes this a small gain?

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