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User currently offlineAloges From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1546 times:

Good evening all,

long after deciding I don't want icons cluttering up my Windows desktop, I've found something else to do that with - Konfabulator, now known as the "Yahoo! Widget Engine". This neat little software (for Windows and Mac OS X) allows you to choose from a plethora of useful, funny, nonsensical, geekish and/or entertaining little widgets for your desktop. I've been using a calendar and a weather forecast widget for a few months now, and decided to get a few more today: a simple reminder, a WiFi signal display, a CPU and a RAM usage display and a radio stream.

So, if you already use it - what widgets do you have?

If you don't know it yet, give it a try. You might just fall in love with it!  Silly

Cheers,
aloges
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User currently offlineKlaus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1525 times:

OS X since 10.4 Tiger has integrated Dashboard for this purpose, which is rather similar to Konfabulator. Apple - Mac OS X - Dashboard

I currently use the following widgets:
• One "FlipClock" set to NY time, another set to SF time.
• "SunlitEarth" for an overview of current day/night/sunlight
• "Sol" for local sunset/sunrise times
• "iCal Events" showing the next pending calendar events
• The standard "Weather" widget
• Monthly calendar
• "*nix manual" for command-line reference
• "SysStat" for current system status
• "MAMP control" for Apache / MySQL control
• Standard stock market widget
• Standard currency widget
• "Pcalc" calculator
• Standard "Dictionary" widget


User currently offlineAirdolomiti From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

I think I first read about Konfabulator/Yahoo!Widget Engine on this forum a few months ago... I decided to give it a try and now I'm hooked!

On my laptop I currently have:

-Yahoo weather forecast
-Laptop battery status indicator
-RSS news feed from CNN and BBC World
-Google search
-big digital clock
-audio volume control
-calendar

Federico


User currently offlinePipoA380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

I personally don't have any spyware  Wink

User currently offlineAloges From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1496 times:

Quoting Airdolomiti (Reply 2):
I think I first read about Konfabulator/Yahoo!Widget Engine on this forum

Speaking of how I foundout about it - I think it was after the umpteenth time of lamenting the lack of a thermometer anywhere near me. Then I remembered a reading by a Russian/German comedian, Vladimir Kaminer, where he referred to the "Harry Potter generation" pulling all kinds of computerised stunts to simplify life - even if the stunts ended up being more complicated than old-fashioned solutions, such as not going online to check the weather but looking out the window. Well, the weather I was able assess - but not the °C, so I looked around for software that could be helpful at that. And I found Konfabulator.  goodvibes 

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 3):
I personally don't have any spyware

Pardon?


User currently offlinePipoA380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1482 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 4):
Pardon?

Oh well, do I really need to explain this?


User currently offlineAloges From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1470 times:

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 5):
Oh well, do I really need to explain this?

Well, all my firewall alerts me of is the widget engine connecting to yahoo weather. Ad-aware and Spybot don't seem to have a problem with it either... the "offered" installation of additional yahoo software was easy to avoid, and lastly I've looked around a bit (using google) and haven't found anything bad about the widget engine containing spyware. So please, what did I miss?


User currently offlineGdodds From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1467 times:

I downloaded these a few days back, and have been quite handy telling me time (even though the taskbar already does that), Date and Weather etc.
My Widgets: Weather, Clock, Calendar. Might add more but i'll need to find the folder first


User currently offlineAloges From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1462 times:

Quoting Gdodds (Reply 7):
Might add more but i'll need to find the folder first

My Documents > My Widgets could be it


User currently offlineSkidmarks From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

Wots a widget?

Andy  old 


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1454 times:

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 9):
Wots a widget?

Its a little HTML and Javascript based program that displays helpful information within a very limited scope.

For example, you may have a dictionary widget which looks up the word entered at dictionary.com, parses the result and shows you it, without you having to open up a web browser, visit dictionary.com etc.

Yeah, Ive written a fair few for both Dashboard and Konfab over the past two years.


User currently offlinePipoA380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1448 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 6):
Ad-aware and Spybot don't seem to have a problem with it either...

SB and AA don't have a problem with a lot of things. That's often a problem to me  Wink

Quoting Aloges (Reply 6):
about the widget engine containing spyware

It doesn't contain spyware. To me, it IS spyware. But that's personal, I just avoid this kind of things, it got me too much trouble.


User currently offlineKlaus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1442 times:

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 11):
To me, it IS spyware.

To qualify as that, it would have to transmit individual information about you or your system into the net.

Does it do that?


User currently offlineTimology From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1438 times:

I got:

-Random Photo's
-Wheater Forecast
-Memo
-Alarm
-iTunes Remote
-iTunes SleepTimer


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 11):
It doesn't contain spyware. To me, it IS spyware. But that's personal, I just avoid this kind of things, it got me too much trouble.

Your browser sends out the following to each and every website you download stuff from:

1. your operating system version and patch level
2. what browser you are using
3. if you have .net installed
4. the page address that contained the link you just clicked
5. a timestamp

So I guess it would fit your definition of spyware.


User currently offlinePipoA380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1425 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 12):
it would have to transmit individual information about you or your system into the net.

Don't be naive. They don't offer you this service cause you have beautiful eyes or whatever! That's called push&pull marketing action. They take some info on you, and then they can target advertisement better.

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 14):
Your browser sends out the following to each and every website you download stuff from:

I'm sorry I don't really get the link between the two?


User currently offlineAloges From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 15):
That's called push&pull marketing action. They take some info on you, and then they can target advertisement better.

As for push & pull: You can easily deny installation of all yahoo software. The rest isn't true either, I have not received a single spam e-mail due to installing Konfabulator/YWE - and I even have an e-mail account at yahoo.

Sometimes, freeware may just be freeware.

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 15):
I'm sorry I don't really get the link between the two?

I think he was referring to YWE not necessraily transmitting more than the average browser, after you've registered.


User currently offlineKlaus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1418 times:

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 15):
Don't be naive. They don't offer you this service cause you have beautiful eyes or whatever! That's called push&pull marketing action. They take some info on you, and then they can target advertisement better.

Even under Windows you would see such unauthorized communication with your firewall. And five minutes after someone noticing it would be all over the net. I can't vouch for Konfabulator, but I'd say it is rather unlikely that it was spyware.

Dashboard is an integral component of MacOS X, so there would be no point in spying either.

A certain level of paranoia is quite sensible, but a bit of evidence would be nice before starting to make accusations.


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1411 times:

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 15):
I'm sorry I don't really get the link between the two?

You download and install SPECIFICALLY the Yahoo! Desktop Widget engine, and then you install the widgets. These widgets then go and get information from wherever they are programmed to get it from, its exactly the same as if you had opened up your browser and gone to that website - hell, Konfab uses the IE rendering engine for it!

The link is - how is a widget doing it for you any different to you doing it manually? It isnt.

Widgets and the widget engine are no more spyware than anything else you run.


User currently offlinePipoA380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 16):
You can easily deny installation of all yahoo software

I've denied a lot of installations that got through on my computer... that's what I meant

Quoting Klaus (Reply 17):

A certain level of paranoia is quite sensible, but a bit of evidence would be nice before starting to make accusations.

I'm not paranoiac, but spyware has caused so big problems I take nothing that looks or smells like it. I'm not making any accusation, just saying this goes in the kinda thing I personally wouldn't install.

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 18):
its exactly the same as if you had opened up your browser and gone to that website

I don't know, somehow I just don't trust this kinda things. I'd rather do it myself than have it done wrong Big grin

Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying what you guys do is wrong, just saying that you gotta be careful with these things, it can be great, and a second later, it can be a total mess....


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 19):
I don't know, somehow I just don't trust this kinda things. I'd rather do it myself than have it done wrong

What are you relying on a computer for then?


User currently offlineAloges From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 19):
I've denied a lot of installations that got through on my computer... that's what I meant

Not in this case - no yahoo software to be found anywhere on it. Just good old Konfabulator with its new, bland name.

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 19):
you gotta be careful with these things, it can be great, and a second later, it can be a total mess....

Certainly - but you must have had one very bad spyware experience to avoid downloaded programmes like the plague.


User currently offlineSearpqx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 9):
Wots a widget?

Doesn't ACME make them?


User currently offlineMhodgson From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

What effect to these widgets have on RAM etc? Noticeable?

User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1383 times:

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 23):
What effect to these widgets have on RAM etc? Noticeable?

Depends on the widget, the skill of the programmer who made it, and the task the widget is doing.

I personally turned off Dashboard because it was too memory hungry and I found i didnt use it.


25 Post contains images Skidmarks : Hmmmmmm, so they explode on impact and have devastating effects on coyotes and piigs? Andy
26 Post contains links and images Andz : I hate icons cluttering my desktop too, I just use the quick launch toolbar:
27 Post contains images PipoA380 : How else could I visit a.net with no computer?
28 Brendan03 : Hmm... This sounds like a cool little contraption... Too bad I only have 224mb of ram to spare... Got dual monitor operations happening here and the s
29 Post contains images Centrair : I use Dashboard a whole lot. No RAM problems at all. The first time your run it (after turning on), it is slow but then it updates regularly. F12 and
30 Klaus : I agree, the Dock is an excellent tool once you know what it can do. Plus, under Tiger you can find many things faster by using the integrated Spotlig
31 AirEuropeUK733 : Lame, Skidz, really lame !! But what's even worse is that I didn't have to read it twice to know what you were talking about!! AE733
32 Post contains images Skidmarks : Lame? 10 o'clock Sunday morning and you want acerbic wit? No chance!!!!! Andy
33 AirEuropeUK733 : More to the point, what were you doing on a.net on a Sunday??? Were you supposed to be working??!! AE733
34 Post contains images Skidmarks : Oh do be brief! I only work 9-5 weekdays (and then only in between posting on A.net ) Andy
35 Post contains images AirEuropeUK733 : Repeat after me... 'My Name Is Skidz and I Really Ought to Stop Posting on A.net and Get a Life'... AE733
36 Brendan03 : Can someone post a screenshot of these Widgets running on a Windows? I'm tempted to give it a try, Got a heapa unused desktop space on the spare Monit
37 Post contains images Skidmarks : At the risk of getting banned - bugger orf! Andy
38 Cornish : Pot. Kettle........:D
39 Post contains images AirEuropeUK733 : You can talk Mr C - it wasn't me who was in the top 10 last week AE733
40 Post contains images Aloges : Sure, here you go: #1 is just the desktop, #2 is after hitting F8 so the widgets appear in front of all running applications. There's nothing better
41 Andz : I learned about file and directory structures many moons ago on a Unix course, since then I am pretty finicky about them, even in Outlook, it amazes
42 Racko : I have yet to find a widget software that can make widgets behave exactly like a desktop background, i.e. I can put icons over it, it stays when i you
43 Post contains images Skidmarks : Whats wrong with that then? Andy
44 Post contains links Aloges : One widget I'd like to recommend is this one: http://widgets.yahoo.com/gallery/view.php?widget=38449 I'm finishing a short presentation I'm giving tom
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