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Hugo Chavez Calls For Independence Of Puerto Rico  
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2567 posts, RR: 31
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4365 times:

The president of my country has told the US to let Puerto Rico become independent so that they can free themselves from "U.S. Imperialism".

Interesting to note that this wacko wakes up every day demanding the US to stop interfering with Venezuela's and other countries' internal affairs and at the same time he tells the US to let go of Puerto Rico...

Source:
http://www.angolapress-angop.ao/noticia-e.asp?ID=412241

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis

42 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4343 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4363 times:

Um, haven't the folks in PR voted on this very question two or three times? Seems they like it just the way it is.

I do find it interesting that Chavez spends a lot more time talking about the US than we do talking about him? I smell serious inferiority complex  Wink



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

Guy sounds more and more like a cross between Fidel Castro and Charles DeGaulle.  Silly

User currently offlineScamp From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
wacko

Interesting take on your president. Do a lot of people down Venezuela way think he's a nut job?



If it pisses off the right, I'm all for it.
User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8667 posts, RR: 43
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

Awww sweet... in return, I demand the Isla Margarita!


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User currently offlineMacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1026 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

angolapress??? WTF!

Luis, what are you reading old boy????
 biggrin 

and let me tell you that we love your wacko over here
 mischievous 



I exchanged political frustration with sexual boredom. better spoil a girl than the world
User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4327 times:

Chavez spoke with his arms wrapped around shoulders of visiting American peace activist Cindy Sheehan, whose son was killed in Iraq, and Elma Beatriz Rosado, the widow of slain Puerto Rican independence activist Filiberto Ojeda Rios. All three joined in condemning George W. Bush`s government.

We mostly know this guy is a nutjob. But WTF is Cindy Sheehan doing down there? I will say I can understand her frustration and think it would be nice of Bush to have sat down with her etc, and I admired her dedication to this. But going down to Ven and hanging with Chavez as he declares support for PR independance, not a smart move Cindy.
On a Chavez note, I think this guy is more cooked than the Iranian president calling for the destruction of Israel.


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2567 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4319 times:

Quoting Scamp (Reply 3):

Interesting take on your president. Do a lot of people down Venezuela way think he's a nut job?

Yes, many people do. And we have hard times here. People that cannot prove that they support the govt, are fired from their public office jobs. When we had the presidential recall election in 2004, we had to first sign a petition to get the recall started. Someone in the Pro-Chavez corrupt electoral council gave a database with all the names of the people who signed the recall petition to the Govt. So that means that if you want to seek a job in govt. office they will first run a search of you to see if you signed asking for the recall election. Talk about discrimination....

Take a look of some anti-chavez protests ( I participated in all of them, the ones Im posting)


http://www.urru.org/11A/imagenes11D/LadoOeste4.jpg


http://www.urru.org/11A/imagenes11D/LadoOeste1.jpg

Quoting Macc (Reply 5):
angolapress??? WTF!

Luis, what are you reading old boy????

It was the first link to the story in English that I found in Yahoo!

Link In spanish: http://www.eluniversal.com/2006/01/30/pol_art_30106E.shtml

Quoting Macc (Reply 5):
and let me tell you that we love your wacko over here

Thankfully that you aren't Venezuelan and you can't vote for him. You can love him all you want from Europe, I don't care, as long as that doesn't affect the election results here.

Looks like many people around the world love Chavez because he joined the Bush-Bashing bandwagon... there's no doubt that bashing Bush earns you popularity worldwide. I think GWB is the worst president the US has had since I was born, but then again it is up to the American citizens to decide who runs their land, I respect them.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineScamp From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4313 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 7):
And we have hard times here.

Good luck to you then. If you want the guy out, I hope that you are successful in your endeavor.



If it pisses off the right, I'm all for it.
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2567 posts, RR: 31
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4313 times:

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 6):
Chavez spoke with his arms wrapped around shoulders of visiting American peace activist Cindy Sheehan, whose son was killed in Iraq, and Elma Beatriz Rosado, the widow of slain Puerto Rican independence activist Filiberto Ojeda Rios. All three joined in condemning George W. Bush`s government.

We mostly know this guy is a nutjob. But WTF is Cindy Sheehan doing down there? I will say I can understand her frustration and think it would be nice of Bush to have sat down with her etc, and I admired her dedication to this. But going down to Ven and hanging with Chavez as he declares support for PR independance, not a smart move Cindy.
On a Chavez note, I think this guy is more cooked than the Iranian president calling for the destruction of Israel.

Picture Copyright Miraflores Press 2006


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8667 posts, RR: 43
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4307 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 7):
Quoting Macc (Reply 5):
and let me tell you that we love your wacko over here

Thankfully that you aren't Venezuelan and you can't vote for him. You can love him all you want from Europe, I don't care, as long as that doesn't affect the election results here.

I really hope that smiley  mischievous  was meant to represent Macc's irony... if not, I'll agree to diasgree with him - I certainly don't love la-la-land demagogues.



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4297 times:

At first glance, of the above photo it looked to me like Chavez has his arm around her with his finger doing the "fishhook!" but with a closer look it is her giving the thumbs up. But regardless as someone who before was not a Sheehan supporter, but lets say a "sympathizer" this has given me a bad taste in my mouth.
Luis when are the next elections down there? would he win again?

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 7):
I think GWB is the worst president the US has had since I was born,

As someone who was born two weeks after Reagan was inagurated, I couldnt agree with you more. I have gone back and said he was the worst president since Hoover, but thats just my opinion.


User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4297 times:

Thats simply idiotic. Considering that PR has had numerous votes on this AND voted to keep things status quo obviously means there is no "struggle" for independence. The mere fact that the US is allowing PR to decide for itself is anything BUT imperialistic. But I guess those that suck up the crap this guy throws out don't think about that.

Venezuela is a great country and the people are wonderful. They deserve a better leader than Chavez.



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User currently offlineSenorcarnival From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4293 times:

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 6):
Chavez spoke with his arms wrapped around shoulders of visiting American peace activist Cindy Sheehan, whose son was killed in Iraq, and Elma Beatriz Rosado, the widow of slain Puerto Rican independence activist Filiberto Ojeda Rios. All three joined in condemning George W. Bush`s government.

He probably tapped that shit...

It's sad to see a Latin American country moving in the direction most of the continent has been moving away from for at least 25+ years.

On another note: Luis, is Internet access monitored under Chavez's regime?  Wink


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2567 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4282 times:

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 11):
Luis when are the next elections down there? would he win again?

Presidental Elections are due in June/May. Would he win again? it is possible since he has complete submission of the Electoral Council and the Supreme Court of Justice. Surveys say that Chavez holds a 25% of hardcore supporters, the opposition has around 25% Chavez haters and the other 50% are people that might swing their vote at the last time. Of that 50%, most of them would vote right now for Chavez because there isnt a good opposition candidate or electoral promise. If the oposition manages to come up with a strong leader and gets the majority of those 50% of undecided voters, then Chavez's days in office are counted. Also the opposition will need to overcome the electoral dirty tricks played by Chavez's supporters who run the Electoral Council.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29786 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4270 times:



Is he picking her nose?



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13473 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4255 times:
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Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 6):
We mostly know this guy is a nutjob. But WTF is Cindy Sheehan doing down there? I

Desperately applying defibrillator paddles to her Fifteen Minutes of Fame.  banghead 



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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4226 times:

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 1):
Um, haven't the folks in PR voted on this very question two or three times? Seems they like it just the way it is.

Of course they have. They recognize that to become independent would mean their economy and standard of living would take a nosedive.


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7401 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4210 times:
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Quoting L-188 (Reply 15):
Is he picking her nose?

No, she's giving him a reach-around, can't you see that? lol.



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User currently offlineSolarix From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4159 times:



Nice to see Cindy down in Venezuela snorting cocaine with Hugo  Smile


User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4896 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4150 times:


Either she's pickin' a piece of spinach between her teeth, or injecting anesthesia for a tooth extraction, or a thumbs-up with a wierd index finger, or...



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4137 times:

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 6):
But WTF is Cindy Sheehan doing down there? I will say I can understand her frustration and think it would be nice of Bush to have sat down with her etc, and I admired her dedication to this. But going down to Ven and hanging with Chavez as he declares support for PR independance, not a smart move Cindy.

That is why Bush did not meet her. She's a nut. Sorry about her son, but she's a nut. Sen. McCain found that out by meeting her, and she embarassed McCain to the press afterward. Why would Bush subject himself to her abuse?

Quoting L-188 (Reply 15):
Is he picking her nose?

It's more like "Smell my finger"


User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4137 times:

LMAO! that's all I can say.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 2):
Guy sounds more and more like a cross between Fidel Castro and Charles DeGaulle.

He just sounds more like what he is, a retard.


By the way, I heard the other day CHavez was changing the country's flag and some other national symbols? Wonder how the new flag will look like..
Will it include a sketch himself and Fidel hugging?

Quoting Senorcarnival (Reply 13):
It's sad to see a Latin American country moving in the direction most of the continent has been moving away from for at least 25+ years.

Actually Venezuela is just one of the many latin countries where the ignorant masses have voted a communist/idiot/drug trafficker into power because the candidate told them they would bring more equality for the poor. In this month alone Chile's president, a woman who is a socialist/communist took office. About two weeks earlier a native indian coca grower turned president took office in Bolivia. Fidel Castro has a playground full students he can indoctrinate and play with. Truly sad.

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 14):
Presidental Elections are due in June/May. Would he win again? it is possible since he has complete submission of the Electoral Council and the Supreme Court of Justice. Surveys say that Chavez holds a 25% of hardcore supporters, the opposition has around 25% Chavez haters and the other 50% are people that might swing their vote at the last time. Of that 50%, most of them would vote right now for Chavez because there isnt a good opposition candidate or electoral promise. If the oposition manages to come up with a strong leader and gets the majority of those 50% of undecided voters, then Chavez's days in office are counted. Also the opposition will need to overcome the electoral dirty tricks played by Chavez's supporters who run the Electoral Council.

Don't be naive Luis, Chavez just like every other communist takes power with the intentions of not letting it go. This guy has changed the constitution, now wants to change the flag.. The story in latin america is corruption leads to the vote going to the nutty communists, which end up ruining a nation even more. People are ignorant and don't know what they're in for, to them the idea of socialism and communism sounds great! ..hmm bad decision


User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4093 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 21):
Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 6):
But WTF is Cindy Sheehan doing down there? I will say I can understand her frustration and think it would be nice of Bush to have sat down with her etc, and I admired her dedication to this. But going down to Ven and hanging with Chavez as he declares support for PR independance, not a smart move Cindy.

That is why Bush did not meet her.

Actually Bush met her once - with a group of other moms who had lost their children. The controversy about Bush won't meet with Cindy was in response to HER request for an additional meeting.

I really hope she runs against Feinstein. What a circus that will be.....


User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 41
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4089 times:

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 1):
I smell serious inferiority complex Wink

other Latam leaders I'd say being able to publicly diss the U.S is more of a proof of superiority and at least he's got the guts to do it and say what he realy thins...how many LatAm presidents wouldn't wish to diss the US



A man without the knowledge of his past history,culture and origins is like a tree without roots
25 Arrow : Democracy can be a bummer, eh? Ignorant masses can elect all manner of crackpots, some of whom can even take their countries to war on false pretense
26 Derico : I think Chavez is starting to overeach. It's one thing to rant against the US and another to nose his faccia in the affairs of every single country in
27 Bongo : He´s also interfering in Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia, Argentina and Chile... not to count some other Countries.
28 Post contains images Mdsh00 : A foriegn leader can technically say what he/she wants, but there are always consequences. What comes out of this guy's mouth is often pure crap. Who
29 Falcon84 : Hugo better remember one thing: it's one thing to say he wants the "Independence" of Puerto Rico. But if it's ever found thathe's ACTIVELY working and
30 UALPHLCS : I couldn't agree more with both of you. Chavez seems to like to preach "do as I say not as I do." And Yes Puerto Rico has had numerous votes on State
31 Arrow : Chavez is clearly an idiot, full of himself, and his comments about Puerto Rico are just typical anti-American bluster. But the US's hands are not cl
32 Pope : Of course they do. They get an assload more federal dollars than they contribute. Why wouldn't they want to stay?
33 L-188 : That would explain the expression on Hugo's face
34 Falcon84 : Fully aware of that, and in no way apologizing for it. It was another idiotic move by the U.S. in a region where we've screwed up over and over again
35 Post contains images IceTitan447 : Admire he for nothing! She has disgraced her family, and her late son. Nothing will happen to her, we Americans will forget this in a week, she'll be
36 Searpqx : Other Latin American leaders frequently criticize the US and often harshly. But when one leader spends so much time and energy, frequently making bla
37 Jetjack74 : Not to mention her country. She is siding with a communist dictator. Well, to give her credit, she will banging pots and pans outside of the capitol
38 Halls120 : An unbelievable hypocrite, of course. But you need to remember that while we in the US are never supposed to interfere with the internal politics of
39 IceTitan447 : What should happen to her? It's not treason, she is a cow. You called it! By way of a anti-war t-shirt. You were right!
40 Jetjack74 : Nothing, just let her keep doing it. She's just the flavour of the week.
41 Clipperhawaii : Let the loud mouth speak. He will screw up his country even more than it is and then come begging the U.S. for some sort of aid. As usual, it's the g
42 Dtwclipper : Reminds me pf the old -Gilda Radner/ Emily Litella (the hard of hearing guest reporter): "What's all this fuss I hear about making Puerto Rico a steak
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