StevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2213 times:
Related to the Alito confirmation today...what are the chances that another justice will step down due to health reasons or otherwise in the next 3 years? Who is the most likely...Kennedy? Stevens? Ginsburg, maybe?
For Bush's sake, he better hope it happens this year, before the new Senate comes in next year.
StevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2206 times:
Quoting Pope (Reply 1): I'm sure that Stevens went to the tattoo parlor this afternoon and had DO NOT PULL THE PLUG - REVIVE AT ALL COST tattooed across his chest.
DrDeke From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 830 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2194 times:
Quoting Pope (Reply 1): I'm sure that Stevens went to the tattoo parlor this afternoon and had DO NOT PULL THE PLUG - REVIVE AT ALL COST tattooed across his chest.
I hope so!
-DrDeke
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Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2194 times:
Quoting Pope (Reply 1): I'm sure that Stevens went to the tattoo parlor this afternoon and had DO NOT PULL THE PLUG - REVIVE AT ALL COST tattooed across his chest.
The president needs to pull a few strings and get some solid republicans on the ambulance crews stationed near the Court and the justices' homes
SFOMEX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2184 times:
Quoting Pope (Reply 1): The next justice will be one hell of a fight if W's still in office.
The same was said about the replacing of Justice O’Connor and it did not happen. I’m confident that another mainstream conservative, in the mold of CJ Roberts, could be easily confirmed by a GOP controlled Senate. Let us cross our fingers!
SATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 8 Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2165 times:
Quoting StevenUhl777 (Thread starter): For Bush's sake, he better hope it happens this year, before the new Senate comes in next year.
The democrats my have a few hated Hollywood folks on their side, but they also have both Christian America and Corporate America strongly aligned against them. There will be no "new Senate" anytime soon. Most of America may not appreciate the current Senate, but they won't replace them with more democrats anytime soon. Why hold the mess in Iraq and lack of Osama's capture against the Republicans when you can simply hold your niece's abortion and your neighbor's civil union against the democrats instead?
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Halls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2160 times:
Quoting Pope (Reply 1): I'm sure that Stevens went to the tattoo parlor this afternoon and had DO NOT PULL THE PLUG - REVIVE AT ALL COST tattooed across his chest.
The next justice will be one hell of a fight if W's still in office.
I think every Supreme Court justice appointment will be a fight, regardless of who is in office - for the foreseeable future, at least. The politics of appointment have become so tainted with partisan bile that a sane, sober and contemplative evaluation process is likely no longer possible.
SATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2153 times:
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7): I think every Supreme Court justice appointment will be a fight, regardless of who is in office - for the foreseeable future, at least.
Not unless you meant "cakewalk" when you said "fight". Give me a break. It's a rubber stamp at this point.
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7): The politics of appointment have become so tainted with partisan bile that a sane, sober and contemplative evaluation process is likely no longer possible.
What is the point of this statement? That the democrats should have all voted for the last justice? What would that have proven?
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Halls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2150 times:
Quoting SATX (Reply 8): Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7):
The politics of appointment have become so tainted with partisan bile that a sane, sober and contemplative evaluation process is likely no longer possible.
What is the point of this statement? That the democrats should have all voted for the last justice? What would that have proven?
Yes. Just like virtually all republicans voted for Ginsburg, despite the fact she was considered too liberal by their standards. They voted for her confirmation because she was qualified - just like Alito.
Remember Justice Brennan, one of the more liberal SC justices? Several of his former law clerks have publicly spoken out against the way partisan politics have infected the confirmation process, and urged liberals to stop whining and accept the fact that conservative presidents get to appoint conservative justices, just like liberal presidents get to nominate liberal justices.
SATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2148 times:
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 9): accept the fact that conservative presidents get to appoint conservative justices, just like liberal presidents get to nominate liberal justices.
That's called...
1. A rubber stamp?
2. Total lack of 'checks and balances'?
3. Yet another conservative guilt trip?
4. All of the above?
The idea that the democrats are partisan but the Repulicans are not just doesn't hold any water with me. It's my opinion that Alito is farther to the right than many democrats were comfortable with based on the information they had available to them. I'm under the impression that today's GOP is in no mood to put any truly moderate judge on the bench and, to me, that's the most partisan part of all. But, of course, here on liberal A.net we get to blame the democrats for being partisan and simply ignore the possiblity that the Republicans had anything to do with it.
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Halls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2144 times:
Quoting SATX (Reply 10): The idea that the democrats are partisan but the Repulicans are not just doesn't hold any water with me.
Nor with me, since I'm not saying that republicans aren't partisan - they are. but in the case of Justice Ginsberg's nomination, they weren't.
Quoting SATX (Reply 10): It's my opinion that Alito is farther to the right than many democrats were comfortable with based on the information they had available to them.
I'm willing to bet that Ginsburg was considered to be too far to the left for some republicans, but they voted to confirm her regardless.
Quoting SATX (Reply 10): But, of course, here on liberal A.net we get to blame the democrats for being partisan and simply ignore the possiblity that the Republicans had anything to do with it.
No, here on Anet we get to ignore the instances where republicans have in fact not engaged in partisan political practices in order to justify democratic examples of the very same conduct.
Again - people on both sides of the political divide are increasingly comfortable with the increased partisan tenor of judicial confirmation hearings. How can you continue to ignore this?
AerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2139 times:
Quoting StevenUhl777 (Thread starter): Related to the Alito confirmation today...what are the chances that another justice will step down due to health reasons or otherwise in the next 3 years? Who is the most likely...Kennedy? Stevens? Ginsburg, maybe?
I wasn't going to go for Stevens, but then I heard that he wanted to step down during a Republican administration for the reason that he was appointed by one. If this is true, and given his advanced age, then perhaps Stevens will indeed be the next to step down.
He is a liberal Justice, and possibly the second-most liberal after Justice Ginsburg.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12329 posts, RR: 12 Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2132 times:
Most likely due to his advanced age, Stevens will most likely the next one to leave office - either by illness causing him to retire or just die one day. He is still alive in body and brain. As I have suggested in other posts and elsewhere, we should have a maximum age of 70 to 75 that any level Federal Court judge can serve until. Most states have similar rules as to max ages of service. This would keep the desirable concept of long tenures in the court system, but it would push out judges before they become more likely to die, become sick or seinile. It would also mean higher turnover in the courts and have judges that better reflect more of US society.
Texdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1266 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2131 times:
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 13): Most likely due to his advanced age, Stevens will most likely the next one to leave office - either by illness causing him to retire or just die one day. He is still alive in body and brain
So long as Bush is in office, Stevens will have to be carried out horizontally.
No way he retires, no way. If he becomes incapacitated, his clerks will simply write or ghostwrite his opinions. Look at Rehnquist's last year.
If a Democrat wins in 2008, I look for Ruth Bader and Stevens to retire ASAP, possibly as early as June 2009. If a Republican wins, I look for both to stay at least a little while, and retire only if they are seriously ill.
Don't for a moment think that these Justices don't know the stakes involved...and don't think for a moment they won't know exactly when to retire so that their favorite party gets to make their replacement.
In the meantime, Rush gets to wish ill on Ginsburg and Stevens, and Julianne Malveaux gets to wish ill on Thomas and Scalia.
AerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2127 times:
Quoting Texdravid (Reply 14): In the meantime, Rush gets to wish ill on Ginsburg and Stevens, and Julianne Malveaux gets to wish ill on Thomas and Scalia.
Don't forget Coulter, even though she wished ill upon the liberal justices in jest.
If what you say about Rush and Malveaux is true, then to all three of them I say: For shame!
SATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2112 times:
Quoting Texdravid (Reply 14): So long as Bush is in office, Stevens will have to be carried out horizontally.
I'm not so sure about that.
My guess is that the GOP will get to pick 1-2 more justices at least. Some people on here think that the war in Iraq, the lack of a captured Osama, the mess with Katrina, and the various lobbying scandals in the news will hurt the GOP. My guess is that they will not, at least not enough to turn the overall tide. The GOP has too many friends in high places. Everyone who says they're shaking in their boots is wrong. There is a constant GOP-friendly drumbeat all over most of the cable spectrum, the AM radio, and most politically active church groups. It would take a miracle for the democrats to overcome that brainwashed base.
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Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2107 times:
Quoting Cfalk (Reply 4): Quoting Pope (Reply 1):
I'm sure that Stevens went to the tattoo parlor this afternoon and had DO NOT PULL THE PLUG - REVIVE AT ALL COST tattooed across his chest.
The president needs to pull a few strings and get some solid republicans on the ambulance crews stationed near the Court and the justices' homes
And once again you display your crassness in public, that basically puts you in the erstwhile company of Ann Coulter, that other public promoter of murdering Supreme Court Justice .
I wonder what you teach your children. The poor things.
In any case, for all of you hoping that Stevens will keel over and die, I doubt that will happen any time soon. His health is excellent, even at 85. Like Rehnquist, I think he will hang on until his last dying breath, even if that means being on the Court until he's 105. Of course, he could pop off tomorrow, and if that happens, and if Bush nominates a Bork-ian nutcase (instead of Alito or Roberts who could command the votes of some of the opposition), I think all hell will break lose.
AerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2069 times:
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 17): and if Bush nominates a Bork-ian nutcase (instead of Alito or Roberts who could command the votes of some of the opposition), I think all hell will break lose.
The Republican bench is deep. There are several female U.S. Judges who were up for consideration besides then-Judge Alito. One of them would do nicely, and their female status would help protect them against Borking.
FDXMECH From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 38 Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2065 times:
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7): think every Supreme Court justice appointment will be a fight, regardless of who is in office - for the foreseeable future, at least. The politics of appointment have become so tainted with partisan bile that a sane, sober and contemplative evaluation process is likely no longer possible.
Hit the nail on the head.
Quoting SATX (Reply 8): What is the point of this statement? That the democrats should have all voted for the last justice? What would that have proven?
I'll let you answer that question if a Dem is elected president and nominates a liberal justice. Kennedy and the boys will reap what they sow. This'll will be their legacy, a shame really..
Though if they had a lick of sense, these dumba$$es would have all voted, yea. Even after their disgraceful showing at the hearings.
Advocating the death of a Justice of the Supreme Court is a prime indication of a fabulous sense of humor.
Imagining the death of a supreme court justice CAN be funny. I can prove it.
Imagine Ruth Bader Ginsberg found dead, electrocuted by a malfunctioning vibrating dildo, wearing a Tinkerbell costume and Aqua's "I'm A Barbi Girl" repeating over and over on the stereo.
StuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2044 times:
Quoting Cfalk (Reply 22): Imagine Ruth Bader Ginsberg found dead, electrocuted by a malfunctioning vibrating dildo, wearing a Tinkerbell costume and Aqua's "I'm A Barbi Girl" repeating over and over on the stereo.
25 Texdravid: I completely disagree. Even though Stevens in over 80 and Ginsburg has had cancer, they are in NO MOOD to retire and hand over control of the SC to B
26 Halls120: And when the democratic president appoints a liberal to replace them - as would be his/her right - some dumb-ass republican will start complaining ab
27 Texdravid: Of course the roles with be completely reversed with a Democrat President and Republican Congress. But the gauntlet has been thrown down with these A
28 StevenUhl777: I'm more of a fan of Roberts/Alito...but dear god...please don't post something like this...I'll wake up at 2am with an awful visual...
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