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NME Names Top Ten British Albums Of All Time  
User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3505 posts, RR: 9
Posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3038 times:

http://www.nme.com/news/nme/22062

The Top Ten (as voted by NME writers) is as follows:
1. The Stone Roses 'The Stone Roses'
2. The Smiths 'The Queen Is Dead'
3. Oasis 'Definitely Maybe'
4. Sex Pistols 'Never Mind The Bollocks'
5. Arctic Monkeys 'Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not'
6. Blur 'Modern Life Is Rubbish'
7. Pulp 'Different Class'
8. The Clash 'London Calling'
9. The Beatles 'Revolver'
10. The Libertines 'Up The Bracket'

I found this list to be extremely surprising, mostly because I can't fathom how anyone could even suggest that "Never Mind the Bollocks" is a better album than "Revolver", let alone "London Calling" (although that might be because I think that almost any twelve Clash songs put together would make a better album than "Never Mind the Bollocks, but what do I know). I submit my personal favorites as follows...

1. The Clash-"London Calling"
2. Radiohead-"OK Computer"
3. The Beatles-"Revolver"
4. The Smiths-"The Queen is Dead"
5. The Beatles-"Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band"
6. The Clash-s/t
7. Radiohead-"Hail to the Thief"
8. The Specials-"Specials"
9. Buzzcocks-"Singles Going Steady"
10. The Jam-"This is the Modern World"

Any thoughts on NME's list, my list or lists of your own are encouraged, especially if you're from the U.K. Cheers.


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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3032 times:

The NME has long been discredited as a serious music paper.

They employ people who go out of their way to be achingly avant garde, who produce lists like the above to appear to be so in tune with popular music that no one dare challenge them.

Real musicians regard the NME as toilet paper and point to the numer of times they have derided a new band which went on to sell millions and be huge. The NME employs the equivalent of 21st century hippies, the sort who were writing lovingly about Pink Floyd in the 1970s and totally missed out on punk.

Note also the total lack of any black British artists in their 'list'.


User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3505 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3031 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 1):
The NME has long been discredited as a serious music paper.

I was hoping so, but it's nice to hear it from someone closer to the source.



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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3027 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 1):
They employ people who go out of their way to be achingly avant garde, who produce lists like the above to appear to be so in tune with popular music that no one dare challenge them.

Couldn't have said it better!!! It reminds me in a very unpleasant way of a saying about critics:

A critic is like a castrate...he knows exactly how to do it right...unfortunately he himself can't!

And another thing that disturbs me greatly is the fact that there are still some poor schleps who take these lists as the "word of God".

Just forget it!! There is no such thing as 10 best British albums ever...there are many fine albums, depending on what you LIKE to listen to...if you're not into the Beatles or think that Oasis is 20% fine music and 80% totally overblown PR then stick to your personal taste and do the only thing these lists are good for: Use it as toilet paper...but be careful, you might just end up with a black a$$  Wink



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3022 times:

So the Arctic Monkeys and the Libertines both produce albums better than anything by the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, the Who, Pink Floyd, Queen etc etc, whilst Oasis produce something better than the band they copied from start to finish?  Yeah sure

I know lists like this get produced to court controversy, but there does need to be some grounding in reality.



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User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3021 times:

These polls always reflect the views of the current readership and are not a true reflection of what is actually good. How else could the Artic Monkeys album be considered one of the greatest albums ever when most of the true classics are missing?

User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3505 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3011 times:

I think the fact that Oasis is on the list says it all. My list is only a reflection of personal taste...any respectable list would include Zeppelin, the Who, Stones, etc. Not sure about Queen  Smile.

Again, Oasis. C'mon.



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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3010 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 4):
So the Arctic Monkeys and the Libertines both produce albums better than anything by the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, the Who, Pink Floyd, Queen etc etc, whilst Oasis produce something better than the band they copied from start to finish?

Of course not, you grumpy old git, but it is exactly that quote that identifies you as exactly that...a grumpy old git, and even worse, a "mainstreamer"!!

And you cannot really expect a superior human being with excellent musical taste to out himself officially as being just another grumpy old git, who loves to listen to Led Zep, wearing a longhair wig and playing air guitar all over the living room!



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 6):
Not sure about Queen

Personally, they wouldn't be on my list. But they would be on a great many other peoples'. Hence the mention!  Wink



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3002 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 7):
And you cannot really expect a superior human being with excellent musical taste to out himself officially as being just another grumpy old git, who loves to listen to Led Zep, wearing a longhair wig and playing air guitar all over the living room!

No really, Banco doesn't need a wig. His hair and beard stretch down to his knees  Wink

Arctic Monkeys - hmm the album's been out a week or so and already its the 5th best of all time  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3001 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 9):
No really, Banco doesn't need a wig. His hair and beard stretch down to his knees

did you ever manage to replace your copy of the Village People - Greatest Hits?

The one you wore flat?


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2996 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 10):
did you ever manage to replace your copy of the Village People - Greatest Hits?

Sad to see it didn't make the Top 10 - can't think why  Wink



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User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3505 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2995 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 11):
Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 10):
did you ever manage to replace your copy of the Village People - Greatest Hits?

Sad to see it didn't make the Top 10 - can't think why

Wait...the Village People were British?



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2992 times:

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 12):
Wait...the Village People were British?

Oh yes - of course.

Sorry, its the Alzheimers - by the time I'd got to the bottom of the thread i'd forgotten the title of it  Wink



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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2987 times:

I see no Cliff Richard on that list. Why? Big grin

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 7):
Of course not, you grumpy old git, but it is exactly that quote that identifies you as exactly that...a grumpy old git, and even worse, a "mainstreamer"!!

I'm sorry, is there something wrong with any of that...?  Confused  Wink

Quoting Cornish (Reply 13):
by the time I'd got to the bottom of the thread i'd forgotten the title of it

Title of what?  Confused



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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2982 times:

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 14):
I see no Cliff Richard on that list. Why?

And where is Slade?

Cum on feel the noize....


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2980 times:

And not a single album from that highly respected label K-Tel


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User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3505 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2974 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 13):
Sorry, its the Alzheimers - by the time I'd got to the bottom of the thread i'd forgotten the title of it

No worries...it doesn't matter where they're from. I'm sure we can all agree that the Village People transcend the thin boundaries of nationality that separate us through their strikingly poignant and relevant music.  Wink



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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2972 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 17):
And not a single album from that highly respected label K-Tel

I believe that until his recent activities spoiled his image, you would have been something of a Gary Glitter enthusiast

[Edited 2006-02-02 12:11:59]

User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2971 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 19):
I believe that until his recent activities spoiled his image, you would have been something of a Gary Glitter enthusiast

(hehe...more double entendre)

Oi. you can cut that out  grumpy 

Did you say you had the entire George Formby back catalogue ??



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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2965 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 20):

Did you say you had the entire George Formby back catalogue

Gracie Fields.

George Formby was a bit too modern for my tastes.


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 31
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2964 times:

Is something wrong with me or with critics? Top ten British albums of all time without "Wall", "White Album"? Led Zeppelin and David Bowie are not even mentioned. Oh, boy!

Quoting Andreas (Reply 3):
A critic is like a castrate...he knows exactly how to do it right...unfortunately he himself can't!

 rotfl   rotfl  That explains a lot.



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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13208 posts, RR: 77
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2932 times:

Whilst the Arctic Monkey's have produced a superb album, way too soon for them.

I would put the Sex Pistols on there, it is a perfect rock album, not a duff track, not over long, not overblown, it's my all time favorite anyway.

The Stone Roses was a classic too.
London Calling-definitely.
Revolver- yep.
Which of the Stones 'peak period' albums; Beggars Banquet? Let It Bleed? Sticky Fingers? Exile On Main St?

Oasis ran out of steam very quickly, I was not a huge fan of the second album that broke them big time.
But their first was a classic, a much needed one at the time too.
(They put too many good tracks of b-sides for the first 18 months too).

Don't know what The Libertines are doing on there either.

Much as I love The Who, they were not a strong album band, nearest was Who's Next.

I'd add Blue Lines by Massive Attack too.


User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2915 times:

Mine, in no particular order:

Beatles - Revolver
Stones - Sticky Fingers
Floyd - Animals
Moodies - Days of Future Passed
Beatles - Sgt. Pepper
Who - Quadrophenia
Rice and Webber - Jesus Christ Superstar
Zep - Physical Graffitti
ELP - Brain Salad Surgery
Yes - Fragile


25 WhiteHatter : I'd have to have to compile such a list, but I'm sure if I had to it wouldn't be the piece of crap the NME came out with. That just looked like some h
26 Srbmod : Their list: 1. The Stone Roses 'The Stone Roses' 2. The Smiths 'The Queen Is Dead' 3. Oasis 'Definitely Maybe' 4. Sex Pistols 'Never Mind The Bollocks
27 MaverickM11 : I've never understood the appeal of this song. Every time I hear it I want to stomp on kittens.
28 Post contains images Andz : Any list without this: is incomplete.
29 Daleaholic : Look above mate, that's why there is no Cliff Richard. Their music and lyrics are masterpieces!
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