Amy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 1150 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 922 times:
Came about in the 1920s as a rough fusion of Ragtime, spiritual and Marching band music.
First popular genre to based around improvisation.
Generic Jazz band consists of 'Rhythm Section' - Guitar, Drums and Piano and a varied collection of band instruments such as Sax, Clarinet, Trumpet and Trombone.
Bases of Early Jazz were Chicago and New Orleans.
Most famous early Jazz Musicians were Louis Armstrong (band leader and Trumpeter) and Duke Ellington. Whilst Armstrong's music was based on improv, Ellington's was some of the first Jazz to be notated.
Lost favour in the 1950s with the further development of Rock and Roll which took some elements of Jazz like 12 bar chord patterns and the concept of solos.
Still had some popularity in the 50s and 60s with Miles Davis and 'Kind of Blue' which is hailed as one of the best albums of all time.
Has spawned an uncountable number of subgenres such as trad jazz, cool jazz, chilled jazz, smooth jazz, acid jazz etc. etc.
Contempoary Jazz is mostly art music and is very contrived.
Erm... that's all I can remember at the moment, it's been a while. I could go get some books... but I can't be bothered
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19188 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 914 times:
How would you describe the 20s-40s kind of jazz? Traditional jazz? Original jazz? Do many people still listen to 20s-40s jazz? I know I sound stupid asking these probably easy questions, but hey - I know bugger all about it.
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Amy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 1150 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 909 times:
20s-40s stuff I would consider traditional jazz, being big on 12 bar patterns, improv, short pieces, lots of clarinet (which was less common in later jazz).
If you can find 2 different recordings of the same Armstrong piece that would be really beneficial as you can hear how different they are, because they are largely improvised.
Also worth a look is George Gershwin who was a kind of classical/jazz fusion composer, you'll probably recognise a lot of his themes.
Do people listen to Jazz? I don't. It was a pivotal part of the formation of the 20th century music industry and the move towards popular music, but I think for the most part people who listen to Jazz are historians or artists.
There is of course Big Band Jazz which is still alive and popular in most places of education, and marching band music is still big in the USA which is one of the prerecursors of Jazz and I would imagine has had some influence from Jazz .
Klaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21406 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 909 times:
I wouldn't call myself an "expert", but I still thoroughly enjoy some of the earlier artists. Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, Billie Holiday and many others made recordings which for ne are among the all-time greatest despite the limited technical quality. (Diana Krall has also done some great stuff quite recently, I agree with that.)
First and foremost any music is there to enjoy - and Jazz has such an extensive range that most people can find some style or artist they can connect with. There are many very different styles of Jazz around, so just give it a try!
Sabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 899 times:
I always liked jazz, there is one evening I will always remember:
I was on a trip through California with a friend, in the last week of our trip we stayed at his aunt and uncle near Los Angeles, his uncle was part time teaching music at an university and part time professional musican (he also wrote articles for music magazines, etc.).
One night he invited us to attend a "practise evening" with his fellow band members (most of them were playing together with Harry James and the band's name is still "The Harry James Band"). We drove to some house in Manhattan Beach where my friend and I could experience absolutely great jazz music while we had a few beers on a bar and overlooking the living room where a big band with ~25 people was playing (yes, the dude's living room was indeed so big to accommodate 25 jazz musicans incl. their instruments).
By the way, Buddy Rich is also one of my favourite jazz musicans!
Logan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 874 times:
As a bassist who was active in the Boston/Eastern Massachusetts jazz scene from 1996 - 2002, I can tell you what most influenced me. Forget the history, listen to the music. First of all, you need to define your favorite styles:
Swing (inherent in ALL jazz, actually, but here I refer to late 1930s-early 40s dance music)
to name several. My tastes are mainly in the Hard Bop school, but of course I love a good ballad. In my mind, almost anything of the following artists is worth listening to :
Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers
James - feel free to e-mail me. I'd be glad to discuss at length. BTW, AMy gave a nice summary.
Kevinl1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 48
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 866 times:
I upped my Dish Network package last night to to include "Speed Channel" as the Daytona 500 is coming up. My new package includes Sirrius which has at least 5 jazz channels. Very nice! Listening to Wes Montgomery playing a nice melodic octave lead. Damn he was way ahead of his time.
Andreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 859 times:
Wow, a jazz thread...that's new on a.net.
Ok, so I'm going to out myself as a jazz fan though I admit I'm not much into the more traditional styles (ok, no more...I loved that stuff in earlier years, nowadays it's limited to cool jazz, that came up in the 50ies, still I love to listen to Miles Davis and Gil Evans, THAT music is indeed so frigging cool!!!) except swing...I very much love the fact that so many younger musicians have a go at it and keep it alive and kicking.
It's the newer styles I'm into, musicians that work nowadays, that go boldly where no other man...ok, no, let's not get pathetic, that fell absolutely free to cross over into other musical styles without losing their jazz roots at all...like Norwegian Nils Petter Molvaer, Bugge Wesseltoft, Sidsel Endresen and Arve Hendriksen (yes, many Scandinavians out there), Bluebox, Siffling and Nighthawks from Germany, Dutch Marc Moulin, French Garcia-Fons and Michel Portal or Jacky Terrasson etc etc etc. but also those modernising traditionalists like Patricia Barber and the likes.
Try it..it's fun if you don't stick to the old stuff only!