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Was 9/11 A Part Of A Conspiracy?  
User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 22
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3223 times:

Some disturbing news.
I will admit, I do not know what to believe anymore.
Why would a group of well-respected men come out publicly and say that the greatest tragedy in the history of the United States was a hoax? A Con. A ploy to rally public opinion to the whims of not just a President, but a government gone wildly out of control?
Here's an article from Yahoo News:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20060130/bs_prweb/prweb339303_5

And here's another, the Miami Herald:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/columnists/13760721.htm

It leaves me, never one to give in to conspiracy theories, reason to question just what our government is up to.

Has our country really changed so much that such a travesty of justice could have happened? Please, tell me that those crying out of a hoax, are themselves the hoax.
Because if not, borrowing the words of David Bowie & Pat Metheny, "This is Not America"


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3220 times:

Oh, come on . . . . . . not AGAIN!?!?!?!?

I can't even believe this is posted here.

Wait, wait - yes I can.

Ask the widow of my friend Sergeant Major Lacey Ivory is it's a hoax, okay.

I'm not even going to entertain it any damned further.

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WARNING, WARNING . . . . . BS to follow . . . . . WARNING, WARNING!!!

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User currently offlineKevinl1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

Oh yeah!!!!

It's true! It was done by the same group who faked the moon landing.

And Elvis isn't dead.....he just went home.  biggrin 



474218, Carl, You will be missed.
User currently offlineRoger136913 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

Man, these things will never stop will they!!!!!!

User currently offlineCosec59 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3202 times:

As a Brit I find it staggereing that this is happening.
What do some people get off on? Ok, so there are some unanswered questions but it didn't look like a hoax to me


User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3200 times:

I'm dissapointed in you, Stirling. This piece wouldn't belong in the National Enquirer, much less an aviation website.

Complete and utter nonsense is what this piece is.



Tort reform now. Throw lawyers in jail later.
User currently offlineSpinalTap From New Zealand, joined Mar 2005, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3200 times:

Yes of course it was and by the way Dick Cheney is definitely a robot


"I get what they call a stipend, a stipend is like money but its such as small amount they don't really call it money"
User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3180 times:

Without the benefit of seeing all the evidence rebutted, the material that these conspiracy theorists market as facts can paint a compelling and scary scenario.

But the reality is, like anything remotely political, you have to view all sides and then make the judgement from there.

As has been said, there are many unanswered questions, as there will be with such a complex and catastrophic series of events. Likewise, those handling the lead up and follow up to the event made errors along the way, as people do. Again, with such a complex scenario people are bound to make mistakes. This adds further fuel to the inside job/conpiracy theory.

I think there was a video documentary posted on this site a while ago that went through all this, but the thread was quickly removed, (Dick Cheney is actually a moderator on this site).


User currently offlineDrDeke From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 830 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3175 times:

Look, I'm not one to put a lot of faith in the government in certain respects, but I don't really see any new information in either of those articles that seems particularly credible in debunking the "official" version of the 9/11 events. The articles pose a lot of seemingly good questions, but there are answers to most if not all of them; answers which fit into the "official" version of the events pretty well for the most part.

-DrDeke



If you don't want it known, don't say it on a phone.
User currently offlineAAFLT1871 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2333 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3167 times:

Ok, then please tell that to the families of 3 friends I lost that day

http://www.september11victims.com/se...ber11Victims/VictimInfo.asp?ID=236

http://www.september11victims.com/se...ber11Victims/VictimInfo.asp?ID=239

http://www.september11victims.com/se...ber11Victims/VictimInfo.asp?ID=274

ANCflyer this one is for you.

http://www.september11victims.com/se...ber11Victims/VictimInfo.asp?ID=279

R.I.P my friends. May i one day see you again

[Edited 2006-02-04 07:41:52]

[Edited 2006-02-04 07:55:52]

[Edited 2006-02-04 07:57:08]

[Edited 2006-02-04 08:00:53]

[Edited 2006-02-04 08:03:06]


Where did everybody go?
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

Quoting AAFLT1871 (Reply 9):
ANCflyer this one is for you.

I knew him since we were both E4s back in Germany together in the late 1970s. Hell of a man.

Thanks AAFlt.


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

I swear. Every forum I'm a member of has this same crap comes up once every few months like clockwork. I guess some people just see black helicopters everywhere and wear tin foil hats 24/7.




"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3107 times:

yes, it was all a plot by Bushitler and Haliburton to have an excuse to steal the Iraqi oil and Afghan poppies.
They used the secret CIA mind control devices to have the entire world believe that those aircraft were hijacked and crashed into those buildings, then disappeared all the people in those buildings to secret Mossad extermination camps.

Now are you happy?



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineAAFLT1871 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2333 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3092 times:

I went to school with Romeo and Angela, and Donna lived right down the street. A day I'll never forget


Where did everybody go?
User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

Last time this was posted I did extensive research on the conspiracy websites, most of it you can rip to shreds, some of it is soooooo whacky you wonder if the sites claiming hoaxes are hoaxes themselves.

Best one was the site that said the rebar (reinforcing rods in the concrete) used in the WTC Towers was pre-coated with plastic explosives during building (what? 20 odd years ago?) ready for the day the US needed an excuse to have a war or invent the TSA...good grief, sales of tin foil hats must be going through the roof!!!

It happened, it was bad, all the "scenarios" put forward by the whackjobs are so complex and so far-out it just would never have happened...the govt just isn't that well organised for one thing!!

Let them rest...


User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3041 times:

Only in America............................

Andy  old 



Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional
User currently offlineKevinl1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 48
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3041 times:

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 14):
I did extensive research on the conspiracy websites

Did you see the one where the US created the tsunami by detonating an underwater nuke to wipe out Muslim nations?
Sheesh.



474218, Carl, You will be missed.
User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3019 times:

Quoting Kevinl1011 (Reply 16):
Did you see the one where the US created the tsunami by detonating an underwater nuke to wipe out Muslim nations?

Bugger! Missed that one, can you IM me a link? I could do with a laugh!!


User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2998 times:

Well, there's a handy phone number so you can ring up the "distinguished expert" Mr Fetzer and tell him that he's talking out of his arse.

UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA
James Fetzer
218 724-2706


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 7):
there are many unanswered questions

There are really no unanswered questions. The events of 9/11 have been thoroughly documented, and only the nut jobs looking to make a profit from this are regurgitating this nonsense.

Quoting Kevinl1011 (Reply 16):
Did you see the one where the US created the tsunami by detonating an underwater nuke to wipe out Muslim nations?
Sheesh.

Yeah, I am also waiting to hear that Israel was at fault for the sinking of the ferry off the coast of Egypt.


User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2865 times:

HEY! OP! I WAS IN NYC AND SAW PEOPLE DIE AND KNEW PEOPLE WHO DIED (Sadly, I did not know any of these brave people well) AND SAW BUILDINGS FALL! I think America needs to move past 9/11 but to pretend it did not happen. YOU ARE A TOOL.

User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

First of all, it is incorrect to call it a hoax, unless of course you are ignorant enough to believe that none of it ever happened. Although that can be countered easily by the lack of buildings, people who never came home and planes that no longer exist. If we are going to say that it was the Bush administration that was behind it then we had best get off calling it a hoax and call it what it really would be if that were the case. A Conspiracy.

Now, it clearly has happened, I knew a few people at Sandler O'Neill & Partners through my dad. But to suggest that this whole thing was a conspiracy set up by the Government of the United States has been watching the movie Conspiracy Theory one to many times.

It is a sick and twisted thing to not only write, but perpetuate the circulation of material such as this. 1000's dead in the buildings, FDNY & NYPD suffered huge losses, military personelle in the pentagon were killed. The memories and legacies of all these people who perished deserve much better than this.

May they rest in peace.

- Neil


User currently offlineCasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4432 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

I just cry that stirling is actually that gulliable.....
Oh well.

I bet he owns tons of stock in tin foil companies.



Older than I just was ,and younger than I will soo be.
User currently offlineCasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4432 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2843 times:

Ok , how many posts till this gets locked?


Older than I just was ,and younger than I will soo be.
User currently offlineCorocks From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2799 times:

I am trying to figure out why a professional philosopher is a "distinguished expert" when it comes to the melting point of metal and structural engineering. I thought by definition a philosopher was a "bullshit artist" anyway (according to Mel Brooks!)

If you look at their list of members, they are all journalists, motivational speakers, lawyers, philosophers, etc. The only ones with real degrees are from community colleges. One of the members actually has "conspiracies" as the only thing listed for his credentials.


25 AA777 : You guys say "respect the families of the dead". Yet you think its bad to investigate these questions that are very cogent and which seem to represen
26 GDB : WHAT BBC reports? There was an issue around ID of those involved initially, unsurprisingly,, the network might well have reported on the vast number o
27 NeilYYZ : Amen!
28 Jafa39 : One theme through the conspiracy sites is the "Metal doesn't melt at XXX degrees" and they stubbornly ignore the fact that no-one said the steel melte
29 Kevinl1011 : No he's not. I'm sure he's having fun pushing some buttons. Yours sure went off. When enough users have their buttons go off.
30 BN747 : Well, there does seem to be an over abundance of experts here on this board with unlimited expertise to discredit such charges... But, I've to hear an
31 AvObserver : Although I'm willing to believe the U.S. government does a lot of crap they don't want us to know about, I seem to recall an internationally acknowled
32 FlyKev : Right............. 1000's of people died, Billions of dollars have been lost... of course it was a Hoax. Get real man. come on, pay some respect to th
33 DL021 : No...it was not a hoax. The US government did not mastermind the attacks, and Elvis is not returning with the Hale-Bopp comet. Diebold did not fix the
34 KiwiinOz : I think the nature of the purported hoax does not dispute that 1,000's of people died. This is consistent between the hoax and the official version.
35 Mirrodie : while I am not sure what to believe exactly, I have read and seen ideas that point to a lot of cover ups in 9/11, but no HOAX, per say. I DO ask that
36 Post contains images Aleksandar : Why we see things like that? Too many people were killed in a matter of minutes and such theories just insult the memory of them. Oh no, he fixed my m
37 NeilYYZ : Who can really say why the building fell, it could possibly be due to the great seismic shifting that WTC North & South created while they fell, ther
38 Post contains images DL021 : I'm sorry there, pumpkin....of course he's alive and well. He's going to be helping the Easter Bunny put out the eggs this year. He's also got a new
39 Post contains images Aleksandar : He told me all about it while fixing my microwave Mozart was the producer. I'M NOT CRAZY, I'M NOT CRAZY
40 Post contains images EA CO AS : So let me see if I've got this straight - a press release, issued by a group of "experts" with no official credentials listed to support expertise in
41 Post contains images DL021 : It's ok....I mean..yeah, you're crazy...but it's ok....
42 Post contains images Halls120 : "well-respected?" I'm amazed anyone continues to believe this sh*t. I'm surprised someone hasn't brought up the "no airplane ever crashed into the pe
43 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Oh please . . . . I already had one reply in here deleted, don't force my hand Halls . . . Conspiracy theorists ought to get off the drugs. The fact
44 Dtwclipper : 36,000 gallons of diesel fuel was stored in diesel tanks just above and at ground level to run the emergency back up center for New York. Let's burn
45 Post contains images Aleksandar : I'm usually quite normal, but that shortage of proper medications... But, Elvis was real and he was also abducted by the aliens, just like me. You mu
46 BN747 : Well thanks for the only one who didn't reach for the "Shut up and stop talking about it" "Shut up and stop asking questions" "Shut up and accept wha
47 Post contains images Mirrodie : while I am not sure what to believe exactly, I have read and seen ideas that point to a lot of cover ups in 9/11, but no HOAX, per say. apparently, it
48 NeilYYZ : You're welcome! I'm not against questioning but if there were concrete evidence that the government did in fact bring down tower 7 I think that it wo
49 Backfire : I think I'm more scared of the people walking around who've been so brainwashed, who are so gullible as to believe their own warped no-evidence theori
50 NeilYYZ : I agree that the conspiracy theories are a big part of the problem. People who feel that the government is out to get them and that the government is
51 DL021 : Hey....I'm with you on that....Elvis was definitely real. He was the King, baby! TCB Mirrodie....As you know, I absolutely respect your right to make
52 Mirrodie : funny I just watched 2 CDs on hoaxes and while they harp on facts that were never brought to light, they are SO corny and poorly made that you have to
53 Post contains images Aleksandar : OK, OK, I realized typing mistake more than 30 minutes after I posted it. I meant Elvis is king and ALIVE. And who messes with The King, messes with
54 CX777Fan : Like the conspiracy theory that Iraq had WMD, posed a serious threat to the western world and was directly linked to Sept 11?? That makes..ummm...wha
55 Post contains images StuckinMAF : OK. Those that are crying out of a hoax are themselves a hoax. Satisfied?
56 David L : When the questions first came up, no. But they've come up so many times and been shot to pieces so many times that there just comes a time when most
57 DL021 : OK...well, then...you and I are on the same page. Viva Elvis!
58 Falcon84 : I do not believe there is a conspiracy. But if it were ever established that officials within the government did create 9/11 for such reasons, the exe
59 BN747 : Exactly, this isn't top secet... why no answers, why no investigaions, why does no one care that this crucial bit of information was destroyed? We ar
60 Post contains images Halls120 : Why California? Because your idiot legislature passed a "de-regulation" bill that set the stage for the state getting gouged, that's why. The second
61 BN747 : Wow.. now how did I know you'd be very 1st to respond? I'll feign surprise here. So if a state deregulates a sector of commerce.. that's green light
62 CX777Fan : BN 747, I'm with you. I think so long as questions are being asked, it's reasonable enough to expect real answers instead of emotional and emotive cri
63 Gilligan : I read both stories twice and don't see any reference to how they know those tapes even existed in the first place. Maybe I missed it but it doesn't
64 Post contains images David L : Or you could just take a look at the many, many open discussions with references on the subject here over the past couple of years. People keep bring
65 Post contains links Halls120 : The problem is, California didn't de-regulate. They instituted a different form of regulation. It was the creation of a bunch of legislators who appa
66 BN747 : If you read the newspapers often enough Gilligan, some tidbits of information does surface. USA today reported the tape distruction story. I did save
67 David L : Now, you see, it's comments like that which make me wonder how rationally you're thinking about this. Where did I tell anyone they have to 'shut up a
68 Halls120 : Sorry to burst your bubble, but the AG doesn't consult with me when mapping the Department's strategy. What they "may" have done wrong? There's no "m
69 David L : I confess I took my eye off the ball on that one. Anyone got any links?
70 Jacobin777 : I thought you were going to sign off after reply 1, what happened??? though this whole tradgedy wasn't a hoax, even if it were, you know OBL would ha
71 KSYR : No conspiracy theories on 9/11 have ever offered any proof as to their view of what happened- they only question. If they offer evidence, it is all ba
72 MDorBust : People who bring this topic back from the dead should be perma-banned from this forum. This has become non-sensical, ill-logical, and embarrassing to
73 BN747 : I'm not going to go into what the California Leg. did or did not do.. but if I were Lead Counsel for the looming Enron Trial.. I'd supoena you, Halls
74 MDorBust : Like I said before. The first twenty times were enough. If the same evidence isn't presented for a twenty-first time, that does not mean it no longer
75 VSLover : this, evidence to the contrary it does not make. i'm really quite shocked by all the responses in here. its seems most people cannot separate the two
76 N229NW : BN747, I very often agree with you, and you are right that big business at the top operates on a level of sleaze and secrecy that is massive. But: I'm
77 Halls120 : Of course you aren't. It's too painful to deal with for an apologist like yourself. It would require you to face the fact that what the legislature d
78 Post contains images David L : Aha! You're obviously one of the conspirators - busted! That's a good one. Hell, I fell for it for years! Some people go to so much effort to explain
79 Post contains links and images BN747 : So sad? Talk about a whimper for an answer... that doesn't even qualify as anemic. That's because YOU can't find a single answer to this in your supp
80 KSYR : BN747, WTC building 7 was not 70 stories. IIRC it was 40. You can't compare a building in NYC with a building in LA that is completely different. Tha
81 Post contains links MDorBust : you mean these non-existant ATC tapes? http://www.airdisaster.com/cvr/atcwav.shtml BTW: Full transcripts can be found here in: http://www.faqs.org/do
82 Saxdiva : And along these lines, I'd treat anything listing PRWEB in the byline as immediately suspect. It's a corporate marketing news release service that AN
83 Gilligan : I'm glad because I've done several searches in my free time today and can't find a thing on it and this is the first I've ever heard of that. These p
84 Post contains links BN747 : First off, let me say 'thanks' to the few are attempting to discuss and an explain their take on what could have happened. WTF? Okay. I asked 2 questi
85 Itsjustme : Are you seriously comparing the collapse of two 110 story buildings to that of a measly 4.0 earthquake? Out here, when a 4.0 hits, it barely gets not
86 Post contains links BN747 : C'mon, of course a 4.0 is nothing (to us)... but that's a serious jolt of power and you're seriously underestimating it. Yes, I'm saying the impact o
87 Halls120 : Back in the 1989 San Francisco earthquake, it was not uncommon for one building to suffer a pancake collapse, while the building next door remained s
88 Post contains images AGM100 :
89 Gilligan : It also goes on to say they have been unable to reach this person to get him to confirm what he allegedly said and/or meant. Still not a definitive a
90 Post contains links CasInterest : WTC7 analysis, It took a hell of a hit to the SW corner. PDF analysis No on is quite sure why it went down, but it took a lot of damage. If you have n
91 BristolFlyer : There was 1 million tons of debris that fell (from as high as quarter of a mile up) and made a 5 storey high pile - what qualifies you, BN747, to clai
92 MDorBust : In pre-existing generator tanks in the basement of WTC7 genious. There was a fuel depot under the building. And no, I won't post the 500+ pages of th
93 Post contains links BN747 : I'm using simply using the dimensions of the Twin Towers themselves, take a breather Gilligan! Read the post, I know Manhattan very well, I stay near
94 KSYR : Last time I checked MDorBust was not the one who buys theories made up by kooks as exact fact and when the truth is presented to them ignores it and c
95 CasInterest : All of the building between WTC 1 and 7 were 5 floors or less and had to be demolished anyway from the damage they sustained. Saying they didn't coll
96 MDorBust : Is this the only response you can come up with in your continued denial of a below ground accelerant adjacent to main support structures that fully e
97 BN747 : That's find and dandy with you, but I'm not here be spoken to by someone I don't know like he's elected to do.. he kicks down disrespect.. that's wha
98 CasInterest : BN747 So let me get this straight? You think wtc 7 fell from controlled demo? How do you think they set that up? How long do you think it took them? H
99 BN747 : Because the owner of the property has gone on the record (PBS) to say 'he was only the line with FDNY and 'they' decided to pull it down. Either read
100 Gilligan : Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC complex, admitted on a September 2002 PBS documentary, 'America Rebuilds' that he and the NYFD decided to 'pul
101 Post contains links BN747 : Gilligan c'mon! The man is a building Tycoon, like Donald Trump... they know what they're talking about with every term that leaves thier lips. Just
102 CasInterest : Still avoided how they managed to set the explosives 747, I mean what did they do....hire Houdini? and on the ATC tapes, they are worthless anyway. Yo
103 Post contains images Md80fanatic : I'm waiting to hear about how a 767 wing thoroughly pierces a web of structural steel, whilst the exact same wing was so quickly removed from another
104 BN747 : You need to asked the owner.. the sole owner. Yes. To you ATC tapes are worthless and a trivial matter in the Crime of the Century that centers on av
105 BN747 : You need to asked the owner.. the sole owner. Yes. To you ATC tapes are worthless and a trivial matter in the Crime of the Century that centers on av
106 CasInterest : MD80 and 747, You two can twist words all you want, but your gross ignorance of physics,time, and complexity leave me to believe you are nothing more
107 Gilligan : Great, shouldn't be a problem for him to issue a statement confirming what he meant by his statement. Nor should it be hard to talk to the Fire Depar
108 BN747 : Why should he? He meant what said. Now YOU are gonna try to get him to re-phrase himeself? And call me callous??? Yes, YOUR observation and your phot
109 BN747 : LOL... I think you're confusing me with Halliburton. BN747
110 KSYR : BN747, you are grasping at straws here. To give you a taste of your own medicine, I'm making a conspiracy that says WWII never happened. It was all a
111 Post contains links Gilligan : Because obviously, by looking at just three different web sites, there is great disagreement as to what he actually said or meant. Once again, if he
112 BN747 : And with that egregiously poor analogy... you've just had an on-time departure from reality pal. I can't read any further... ...I just checked your p
113 Post contains links Gilligan : Ok, take a deep breath and go back and read your whack job sites. You will read that CDI was brought in as a consultant by one of the four contractor
114 BN747 : The key term here is 'manage' .. that's the same bag of apples as your attempted ridiculing of Controlled Demolition Inc as the 'lead' consultant'...
115 KSYR : No problem. That attitute seems to be the typical attitude that a conspiracy theorist has when confronted with the truth. Saying that 9/11 was a hoax
116 Post contains images David L : If they had been the operational tapes I'd agree. However, don't forget that the tapes in question were made by ATC personnel sitting down after the
117 BN747 : Care to point out where I (as in me) said it was a hoax? I don't deny for a second that planes crashed into the WTC. If you are going at accuse, do s
118 Post contains images David L : The point is that these were not operational tapes. I can't remember how often I or my colleagues wanted to explain to our customers (another departm
119 KSYR : Thanks for the support, David. I find it discouraging that because I am under the age of 21 people tend to not take what I say too seriously. We are a
120 OV735 : Back in the Middle Ages, we used to burn those who said the Earth was round. It's sad to see that even half a millennium later, we haven't really had
121 Post contains images David L : Good point. I don't know how well known Building 7 was in the States but I doubt many people in Western Europe even knew it existed. I certainly didn
122 BN747 : Well said OV735, 'the Shutup and stop asking questions' mentality is I'm afraid, the true state of many people in this country and abroad today. They
123 Post contains images David L : Well, I tried but now I give up. OK, BN747, you win. I'm frightened because I don't believe the US government was behind September 11th. People who d
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