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Danish And Norwegians: Are You Scared?  
User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

This goes to Danish and Norwegian aneters and is posted because I am curious. Are you scared that Muslims can attack your country? It certainly is not a good feeling watching your embassies being destroyed and your flags being burn.
And also, I wanted to say that I support you 100%!!! It must be a terrible sight. Europe has to unite now to defend their countries and citizens from muslim fanatics.
Adam


Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
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User currently offlineLazyshaun From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2347 times:

The Muslims will get over it soon enough...


I came. I saw. I conquered
User currently offlineJap From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2342 times:

Yes. Especially now that the Al Qaeda members have escaped. You're really not meant to be scared, because that is what terrorists want... but then again, I don't want to see people die or suffer over a bunch of cartoons...

Yes, I'm scared. And I'm pretty sure groups will at least attempt to attack our country somehow, sometime...


User currently offlinePilotsmoe From United States of America, joined May 2005, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2314 times:

Quoting Jap (Reply 2):
Yes, I'm scared. And I'm pretty sure groups will at least attempt to attack our country somehow, sometime...

As long as Osama is out there you better be scared, very scared! He could get you in a dark alley! Well, Denmark is a good ally of the US, helping us in Iraq, so any attack against Denmark would be considered as an attack against the US(isn't that conmforting, W dosen't know were Denmark is! )


User currently offlineIceTitan447 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2306 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Are you scared that Muslims can attack your country?

Ever notice how cowardly these Islamo Fascist are?
They wear masks to cover their cowardly faces.


You guys be strong, They will forget soon enough, or get tired of being idiots.


User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6387 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2293 times:

First of all - my Danish flag has NOT been changed. I have kept it here for years.

And yes, I am scared. But nothing more than after 9/11, the London/Madrid bombings, and the counless bombings at tourist sites mainly in Egypt. Etc.

I'm always scared of what what can be done in the name of allah.

The fact that a religion with more than a billion followers seem to have the purpose to suppress its people and seek conflict with all other major religions in the world, that is scaring.



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2280 times:

Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 5):
The fact that a religion with more than a billion followers seem to have the purpose to suppress its people and seek conflict with all other major religions in the world,

the religion in question does NOT have the purpose of either surpressing anybody nor to seek conflicts. That people cause trouble in the name of God is not a new phenomena however. And that political demonstrations often get violent, not least as being used by intentional trouble-makers is another troublesome aspect.


User currently offlineJap From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2231 times:

Quoting Pilotsmoe (Reply 3):
Well, Denmark is a good ally of the US, helping us in Iraq, so any attack against Denmark would be considered as an attack against the US(isn't that conmforting, W dosen't know were Denmark is! )

Didn't seem to bother them on 9/11 or when they bombed the London Underground- almost TWICE.

They don't care if they get 75% of the world on their tails for this. Because if they die, they become "martyrs"  Yeah sure


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2223 times:

Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 5):
The fact that a religion with more than a billion followers seem to have the purpose to suppress its people and seek conflict with all other major religions in the world, that is scaring.

that's right...that is why the 1 billion plus muslims are going on a suicide mission and a path to salvation.....

oh wait, its only the approximately 500 million men, because according to Islam, the women are to be treated nothing short of slaves and animals..

 sarcastic 



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlinePilotsmoe From United States of America, joined May 2005, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

I think it's time for George W to use some tactical neukleur  Wink bombs on them and take them out! Osama gives me nightmares, I won't leave my house or go to work until they get him!

User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2375 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2195 times:

I am not scared at all... bring it on!

User currently offlineOYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 78 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2181 times:

Personally I can be pretty scared when I'm on a train.
Especially if the train is full. And I ride through the busiest station as well every day.


User currently offlineLY7E7 From Israel, joined Jun 2004, 2234 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2136 times:

Whoever of you is scared - please don't be. That's the exact reaction they are are seeking.




2 things are endless: ignorance and space
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

Quoting LY7E7 (Reply 12):
Whoever of you is scared - please don't be. That's the exact reaction they are are seeking.

Indeed. And it isn't usually the reaction they get after violence. Take Londoners, they weren't scared, they were just bloody angry.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineHimmelstormer From Denmark, joined Mar 2005, 143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

I'm not scared but of course it is a bit worrying. However, I have trust in my people and our NATO-allies should things get really bad. I don't think we'll get there but we must also be prepared to defend ourselves both through reason(if possible) or force(if necessary).

It is particular infuriating to see the embassies burn because they are sovereign land of the respected countries, and I see the unwillingness of the Syrian government to stop the riots as an attack on Denmark. But what can you expect from an oppressive regime who is supported by the fascists in Iran. The only way these regimes can exist is to direct the internal rage that comes out of oppression toward an external "other".


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5980 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

Scared? Hell no!
Pissed off at certain islamic clerics living in Denmark, who knowingly have been pushing for this to happen? Hell yes!


User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Quoting LY7E7 (Reply 12):
Whoever of you is scared - please don't be. That's the exact reaction they are are seeking.

Exactly. Don't be afraid. If you are, then these [insert expletive] have achieved a smal victory over the civilised world. Instead, stand tall, carry on with your daily routines, and show them that they can never, and will never win.



7L

[Edited 2006-02-06 14:39:34]


Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2080 times:

Turn your fear into Vigilance.

Be watchful . . . but don't change your daily habits . . .

If you ride the train, ride the train - but pay attention.

If you take a bus, take a bus - but pay attention.

If you shop at a certain place, continue to shop there - but pay attention.

It called vigilance . . . not paranoia - vigilance.

And remember to watch out for those that can't watch out for themselves . . . children and elders.

And don't let the extremist bastards win. . . . .



User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2070 times:

Incredible what some people do in the name of God. But these people doing the burning, the killing; are just a bunch of cowardly punks. They cover their faces, they attack un-armed people, they murder in a barbaric manner; they should be hunted down and squashed like the vermin to society they are.

User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2042 times:

Quoting Himmelstormer (Reply 14):
and I see the unwillingness of the Syrian government to stop the riots as an attack on Denmark.

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here an update :
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a new report about Syria in the Daily Star (Beirut) :
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Syria steps up security after attacks on embassies
Compiled by Daily Star staff
Monday, February 06, 2006
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Syria steps up security after attacks on embassies
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Syria stepped up security at Western embassies on Sunday after being criticized for failing to protect the Danish and Norwegian embassies from attacks.

"More protection has been placed on diplomatic missions. Syria is committed to international conventions regarding the protection of foreign embassies," the Syrian Foreign Ministry said. "The Foreign Ministry expresses its regret regarding the violent acts which accompanied the protests and caused material damage at some embassies," it said in a statement.
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The world's leading Islamic body condemned the burning of the Danish and Norwegian embassies in Damascus. "Overreactions surpassing the limits of peaceful democratic acts ... are dangerous and detrimental to the efforts to defend the legitimate case of the Muslim world," the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) said in a statement. OIC Secretary General Ekmaleddine Ihsanoglu "expresses his disapproval over these regrettable and deplorable incidents," the body said.
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Syria's grand Mufti Badreddine Hassoun, told the government newspaper Al-Thawra that the attackers did their country harm. "We feel sorrow that these people who were driven by passion reached the stage where they have undermined our dialogue with the Norwegian and Danes," he said.
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User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 47
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2028 times:

No not scared, but pretty fed up by how the situation is escalating.

Some of the things I react to:

* Jyllandsposten, the Danish newspaper, go ahead and publish drawings of the prophet Muhammed, despite the fact that Islam strictly forbids his face to be drawn.

Bad, bad move. And what else could they expect as a reaction from the Muslims? I am all for freedom of speech, but what purpose to these drawings serve other than to provoke Muslims? Jyllandsposten: I blame you for starting this mess.

* The Norwegian Christian publication "Magazinet" publish the drawings which appeared in Jyllandsposten.

Way to go. This should calm the already furious Muslims.

* Outraged Muslims demand an apology from the Norwegian and Danish government.

Bullshit, you need the ones who published them to apologize, not the government. An entire nation can not be held responsible just because some idiots decided to publish blasphemic images.

* Muslims begin to riot, and set fire to Scandinavian embassies.

Very unnecessary. The people doing this are mainly using the publication of the drawings as an excuse to perform violent actions. Once the embassy was burnt to the ground, they torched and destroyed several cars in the area. How is that a protest against Norway or Denmark?

* Extremists call upon all Muslims to boycott Danish and Norwegian goods/trade, and in some cases encourage holy war and terrorist attacks on the two countries.

Fortunately most Muslims are not extremists, so very few will support an attack on Norwegian/Danish targets. Yet still an expert on terrorism in Norway says he'll be surprised if no attack of any kind is carried out in the country within the week of the drawings being published.

Personally I think it is only a matter of time before such an attack takes place in either Norway or Denmark, but I doubt it will be as serious as 9/11 or the Madrid bombings. Some idiot is bound to go all the way...

* The editors of Jyllandsposten and Magazinet are threatened on the web. A short animation show images of the two, illustrating them being shot in the head. The text reads, among other things, something like "Death to the two men who made the drawings of Muhammed"

One could argue that the editors had it coming. One simply does not f**k with religion when it means as much to people as Islam does to Muslims. However, the fact that some Muslims believe the editors actually drew the cartoons, shows that there are many misunderstandings and misinterpretations out there.

* The drawings are published in more and more newspapers all over Europe.

I am sad to see the attitude which is developing in western countries. "They are only funny drawings, get over it, Europe will kick the Muslims ass any day". These attitudes do no good in trying to patch up an already fragile relationship between Westerners and Muslims.

I hope things will calm down soon, but the way Muslim extremists and certain Europeans are acting, it could get worse before it gets better.

Thom@s



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineOYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 78 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2017 times:

Quoting LY7E7 (Reply 12):
Whoever of you is scared - please don't be. That's the exact reaction they are are seeking.

Yeah I know that I shoulnd't be scared. I was never really nervous before when I took the train or the bus. And I take the train dailly from my home to work.
But after all these threats against us lately I do get a little nervouse when I see a middle eastern man entering the train with a big jacket and a backpack.


User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 47
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 21):
But after all these threats against us lately I do get a little nervous when I see a middle eastern man entering the train with a big jacket and a backpack.

I can understand this. I was rather alert when sitting on a Bus in England shortly after the 7/7 bombings last summer, when a man with similar appearance as that bombers, wearing a cap and hood, left a huge bag at the front of the bus, before taking a seat all the way at the back.

During such times, it is only natural to become more paranoid and suspicious I suppose.

Thom@s



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineHimmelstormer From Denmark, joined Mar 2005, 143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1888 times:

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 20):
Bad, bad move. And what else could they expect as a reaction from the Muslims? I am all for freedom of speech, but what purpose to these drawings serve other than to provoke Muslims? Jyllandsposten: I blame you for starting this mess.

I find that your comment here extremely obnoxious and infuriating. However, I don't start threatening you - see what I mean?

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 20):
One could argue that the editors had it coming. One simply does not f**k with religion when it means as much to people as Islam does to Muslims. However, the fact that some Muslims believe the editors actually drew the cartoons, shows that there are many misunderstandings and misinterpretations out there.

So you feel the editors had it coming. What exactly do you mean by that? I often get offended when something I hold dear is ridiculed but you cant' pick and choose when it comes who and what you offend. In a free society it is open season on everything. And that means that the courts - and ONLY the courts, decide what is acceptable. Of course that doesn't mean you can't show consideration and restraint. But bottom line is: Don't tell what to think or say...or draw for that matter.


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1867 times:

Quoting Himmelstormer (Reply 23):
Bad, bad move. And what else could they expect as a reaction from the Muslims? I am all for freedom of speech, but what purpose to these drawings serve other than to provoke Muslims? Jyllandsposten: I blame you for starting this mess.

I find that your comment here extremely obnoxious and infuriating. However, I don't start threatening you - see what I mean?

While I fail to see what about his statement might have been "obnoxious/infuriating" I can see what you mean, to some extent at least. You see, not too long ago, a customer of our company in writing demanded that we sack a particular employee, because that employee apparently dared to joke about his going to church EVERY Sunday. The "writer" threatened to go to court against us in regard to violation of religious freedom, damaging his personal right, and severe insult. So much for "take it easy" !  wave 

[Edited 2006-02-07 20:13:56]

25 Himmelstormer : The fact that he blames Jyllandsposten for "starting this mess" as if the newspaper is responsible for all the violence. That is in my view infuriati
26 ME AVN FAN : ok, ok, ok, you may be right in so far as they could NOT FORESEE "all the violence" and I happily admit that I when I heard about the problem a month
27 Thom@s : And they ARE responsible for starting it. If they hadn't printed the cartoons, the muslims wouldn't be in uproar. I sincerly hope you didn't gather I
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