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Bob Dylan - Do You Like?  
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19243 posts, RR: 52
Posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1521 times:

Do you like the music from Bob Dylan? Although I don't have any of his CDs, I think some of his music is great (I've listened to a couple of his CDs/tapes). I like a number of his songs, including Just Like A Woman (especially the intro), The Times They Are Changing (or whatever it's called) and others I can't now remember.


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User currently offlineFumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1517 times:

There are about 15 of his songs that are incredible to me. Some are very annoying and I can see why people don't like him. Overall, he was one of the first to use music as protest in our society and influenced our modern culture in ways that we can't even fathom.



[Edited 2006-02-07 00:24:36]

User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1515 times:

A hell of a songwriter. I own a few of his albums and enjoy them lots. His voice can wear on some people. But in terms of being able to put lyrics to music, the guy is simply a genius.

User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1505 times:

Dylan certainly has had his ups and downs - something to be expected over a 45-year career. To me, he was the single best songwriter from 1962-1966, and I'd put his albums from this period: The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, The Times They are a-Changin', Another Side of Bob Dylan, Bringing it All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, and Blonde on Blonde in amongst my favorite records of all time. Other notables are:

Blood on the Tracks
Desire
Infidels
Knocked Out Loaded
Oh Mercy

And, the best live recording: The "Royal Albert Hall" - Bootleg Vol. 4, actually recorded in Manchester, UK in May 1966.


User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1502 times:

Love his songs...can't deal with his 'voice'


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User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1488 times:

Which Bob Dylan?

Druggie, Christian, etc.

Some great stuff despite the voice - as noted above many others sing his songs well also.

There's also some stuff that's bad enough I wouldn't let Michael Bolton's dog shit on it.



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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14127 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1487 times:

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 1):
Overall, he was one of the first to use music as protest in our society

With you being an American, haven't you heard of Woody Guthrie, the Weavers, the Almanac Singers, the late 19th century and early 20th century labor union songs etc.?

Acvtually the use of music to air protests or a political opinion goes much further back, I could give you examples from the Peasant's wars of the late middle ages.

Jan


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1484 times:

Yes, I love Dylan's music and especially his lyrics. Logan22L is absolutely right about his best period, but he had some nice lyrics later, too. One of his songs that I really like is "Is Your Love In Vain".

Unfortunately, his concert in Belgrade was pure disaster. He showed up drunk (I was very close to the stage and it was obvious) constantly bitching at his other musicians and was in one of the improvisation phases. He changed his songs so much that I had to read in the newspaper a day later that the opening song was "All Along The Watchtower".

As of his live recordings, I used to listen double LP "Dylan at Budokan" time and time again. The concert was in 1979 and came with a nice booklet with his lyrics.

The songs that I really like are:
Just Like A Woman
Blowin' In The Wind
Senor
Is Your Love in Vain
Simple Twist Of Fate (sang also by his former girlfriend Joan Baez)
All Along The Watchtower (OK, Jimy Hendrix did it better)
Mr. Tambourine Man



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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1480 times:

I'm a big fan of Bob Dylan. My favorite record of his is Nashville Skyline:



There's a duet with Johnny Cash on the record which is my favorite.



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19243 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1480 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 7):
Blowin' In The Wind

That's a great track.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 7):
Mr. Tambourine Man

Was Dylan the first person to have that? Or was it The Byrds (1965)? Am listening to The Byrds' version now. Brilliant.  Big grin



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1477 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 9):
Was Dylan the first person to have that?

It is most definitely Dylan's song.

Oh, BTW did you listen Joan Baez? Many years ago, I even personally met her and spke with her for some 5-10 minutes. Lovely lady who definitely was one of the significant musicians in 1960s.



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19243 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1468 times:

These lyrics are great. I love Mr Tambourine.  Big grin

Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me,
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to.
Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me,
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.

Take me on a trip upon your magic swirlin' ship,
My senses have been stripped, my hands can't feel to grip,
My toes too numb to step, wait only for my boot heels
To be wanderin'.
I'm ready to go anywhere, I'm ready for to fade
Into my own parade, cast your dancing spell my way,
I promise to go under it.

Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me,
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to.
Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me,
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.

Though you might hear laughin', spinnin', swingin' madly across the sun,
It's not aimed at anyone, it's just escapin' on the run
And but for the sky there are no fences facin'.
And if you hear vague traces of skippin' reels of rhyme
To your tambourine in time, it's just a ragged clown behind,
I wouldn't pay it any mind, it's just a shadow you're
Seein' that he's chasing.

Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me,
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to.
Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me,
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.

Then take me disappearin' through the smoke rings of my mind,
Down the foggy ruins of time, far past the frozen leaves,
The haunted, frightened trees, out to the windy beach,
Far from the twisted reach of crazy sorrow.
Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky with one hand waving free,
Silhouetted by the sea, circled by the circus sands,
With all memory and fate driven deep beneath the waves,
Let me forget about today until tomorrow.

Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me,
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to.
Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me,
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1466 times:

Pe@rson, if you're interested in 1960s visit this thread:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/1090901
Click on the link there and you can download some interesting clips from Woodstock. All of them are Quick Movies.



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19243 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1465 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 12):
Pe@rson, if you're interested in 1960s visit this thread:

Haven't you seen my other previous threads, although they featured rather more obscure artists and bands; indeed, only me and KevinL1011 replied to some.  Wink



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User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1463 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 9):
Was Dylan the first person to have that? Or was it The Byrds (1965)? Am listening to The Byrds' version now. Brilliant.

That was one Robert Zimmerman who penned that classic. The Byrds version is also great.

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 6):
Overall, he was one of the first to use music as protest in our society

With you being an American, haven't you heard of Woody Guthrie

I missed that. Our resident engineer is correct; protest music had been going on for a hundred years in American Music. Dylan actually visited Woody Guthrie in his hospital bed in 1960 or 1961.

Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 4):
Love his songs...can't deal with his 'voice'

While no one would mistake him for Ian Gillan or Van Morrison, I think his voice is very well suited for much of his earlier material. Songs like Boots of Spanish Leather, The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll, Bob Dylan's Dream, A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall, Chimes of Freedom, Subterranean Homesick Blues, It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding), Desolation Row, Visions of Johanna, and Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands had this edginess about them that were the perfect foil for his less-than-perfect voice.


User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1457 times:

Bob Dylan to me is like Tim Horton's to a Canadian.

Signed, Logan22L



"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1457 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 13):
Haven't you seen my other previous threads

I've seen some but with a delay of a day or two  banghead  and always wondered whther to jump in the conversation or not. It just seemed that I was a bit late.



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1453 times:

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 14):
A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall

there are so many of his songs that I simply knew I will forget to mention some that I really like. Thanks for reminding me of that one  bigthumbsup 

Another one:
Knocking On The Heaven's Door



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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1451 times:

His songwriting skills are incredible, and I really enjoy most of what he's written, I just prefer that someone else sing it. I'm one of those that just cringe when I hear his voice.


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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1441 times:

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 2):
A hell of a songwriter. I own a few of his albums and enjoy them lots. His voice can wear on some people.

One of the best songwriters of the 20th century. Too bad he's one of the worst singers of the same century.

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 18):
His songwriting skills are incredible, and I really enjoy most of what he's written, I just prefer that someone else sing it. I'm one of those that just cringe when I hear his voice.

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User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 19):
Too bad he's one of the worst singers of the same century

Again, see reply #14 above. I think his dry, sarcastic voice is the prefect accompaniment to his oft-vitriolic lyrics and delivery.


User currently offlineIceTitan447 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1429 times:

He has to be the worst performer ever, even worse that RUSH. He sucks so bad, out of tune and, well out of tune!

User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1427 times:

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 20):
Again, see reply #14 above. I think his dry, sarcastic voice is the prefect accompaniment to his oft-vitriolic lyrics and delivery.

Early in his career, maybe. After Nashville Skyline his voice became simply painful to listen to.


User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1426 times:

Quoting IceTitan447 (Reply 21):
He has to be the worst performer ever, even worse that RUSH. He sucks so bad, out of tune and, well out of tune!

You cannot have listened to his best stuff. He works with the best sidemen, writes the best lyrics, and, in his prime, was the single most influential musician on earth. He could not have sucked as much as you say.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 22):
Early in his career, maybe. After Nashville Skyline his voice became simply painful to listen to.

Check out "Blood on the Tracks," 1974.


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1424 times:

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 23):
Check out "Blood on the Tracks," 1974.



Quoting Logan22L (Reply 20):
I think his dry, sarcastic voice is the prefect accompaniment to his oft-vitriolic lyrics and delivery.

The best I can say for his voice is that, yes, it did 'fit' some of his songs, in the sense that they both made you uncomfortable, which was his intent. Beyond that the nicest I could come to is 'distinctive'. Just never developed an appreciation for it.



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25 IceTitan447 : You must be a big fan. I would say GNR did Knockin on Heavens Door 150% better. He wasn't much talent in my eyes, sorry.
26 Post contains images Logan22L : You are certainly entitled to make yourself look like a two-bit rocker with no true appreciation of talent. No skin off my nose at all. Truth is Dyla
27 LHMARK : I agree. And Limp Bizkit's cover of Behind Blue Eyes was way better than the original version by The Who.
28 TomTurner : His phrasing is rather interesting; quite good to my ear. Though his songs have been covered well on occasion, its hard to imagine many good ones don
29 TomTurner : Absolutely correct. But in the context of popular music filtered through what many were hearing A.M. or Top40 radio at the time, Dylan's lyrics were
30 Psa53 : I got introduce to Dylan with,"Like A Rolling Stone" on AM radio top 40.I thought it was a great tune with also, Jimi Hendrix doing a live version of
31 Post contains images IceTitan447 : You got to be kiddin me. I think Dylan was a waste of space and I'm a two bit rocker? You have no clue what I am, I know what you have yourself out o
32 Post contains images Logan22L : Easy mate, you missed my , or perhaps you chose to ignore it. To label Dylan a waste of space is true ignorance, however. He single-handedly changed
33 Post contains images Aleksandar : Nicely said
34 MD11Engineer : I've listened to her at a concert in Berlin's Waldbuehne open air stage. Great voice she's got! Jan
35 Fumanchewd : I hope that your are kidding. If not I will place the photograph I took of you from the bushes outside your window in the trash.
36 Gunsontheroof : Bob Dylan's music is amazing. I will say that some of his songs suffer from being too long and repetative, but for the most part, he has a very solid
37 Aleksandar : Yes, she does have amazing voice. At one point, in her Belgrade concert, she pushed the microphone aside and sang "Amazing Grace". That performace wa
38 Post contains images IceTitan447 : I cant believe that I feel this way, and am called ignorant. Do you think everyone likes him. He may have changed your life with horrible singing, ug
39 Aerobalance : I'd rather listen to fingernails dragged across a chalkboard.
40 Sabena332 : Bob Dylan's songs are great, my favourite is "Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again". Patrick
41 Logan22L : Forget what I think of him. It is of no consequence. Dylan was the single most influential force on arguably the most important R&R band of all time,
42 Aerobalance : Hard to say the most influental - consider Elvis, Carl Perkins, Little Richard and the Beach Boys as other main influnces - and considering that most
43 Post contains images Logan22L : No question, Tony. However, the Beatle albums that changed music were not the first several albums. It really started with Rubber Soul (late 1965) an
44 Post contains links NoUFO : Look, what I found an hour ago: Bob Dylan & Patti Smith live
45 IceTitan447 : I did just that, and was called ignorant. Imagine that. You wouldn't have called names if it didn't bother you. We have bands or performers we like,
46 Logan22L : Ignorance is simply the lack of understanding of something. You said: and I replied: It only bothered my that you said he was a waste of space, not t
47 Halls120 : No one with any sense challenges Dylan's legacy as a songwriter. His voice, on the other hand, was at best interesting, and at worst simply awful.
48 Logan22L : Some of it, mostly in the last 15 years (way to narrow it down, Logan), was downright embarassing. I'll stand by much of his earlier work. IceTitan??
49 Post contains images Vaporlock : Wow, now that was an amazing song!!! Bob Dylan will always be one of the greats!!! Phyllis
50 Aleksandar : How on Earth did you remember that one? I almost forgot about it. But that's the way things are in popular music since a long time ago. If you mentio
51 Bimmer202 : He is awesome! And rumor has it that he is currently making a new album this week in NYC. He has been doing this for 45 years! Simply amazing.
52 Post contains images Searpqx : What part of "No one with any sense" didn't you get. . .
53 Logan22L : You just earned yourself a free chip in Vegas.* * Note offer is not tranferable and may expire at any moment. Non-negotiable in Nevada. May cause gen
54 Post contains images Searpqx :
55 Columba : My father has every Bob Dylan record available so I grew up with Dylan´s music. I think his best time was when he playing with "The Band" but also hi
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