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Abu Hamza Guilty  
User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 942 times:

Developing story, guilty of soliciting to murder

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4688846.stm

"Mr Abu Hamza faces nine charges under the Offences Against the Person Act 1861, which allege that he solicited others at public meetings to murder Jews and other non-Muslims."

[Edited 2006-02-07 14:15:11]

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User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 912 times:

Not too surprising..

User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7407 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 905 times:
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Good, This guy needs to be removed from society. To bad he can't be beheaded and mounted on Traitors Gate, just for free speech reasons


Made from jets!
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 892 times:

He's got 7 years.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4690224.stm



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 884 times:

The more time he spends in the slammer the better.

User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 875 times:

Thanks goodness for that, pity we can't ship him back home to serve his time.

Now lets move on to those "protesters" from last weekend.....



Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7407 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 862 times:
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Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 5):
Thanks goodness for that, pity we can't ship him back home to serve his time.

Considering the fact that a terrorist mastermind escaped from a prison in Yemen(with inside help most likely), I don't really have much faith in the mideast region holding these nobs.



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User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 842 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 3):
He's got 7 years.

Long enough to finish reading his encyclopaedia of Afghani Jihad. Why don't we just boot him out for good and let Bush have him?  Smile


User currently offlineIbhayi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 836 times:

Oh well, I wonde what is running through his mind right now?

I hope as a favour to him the judge handed him a bottle of ANAL lube cause he is gonna need it. Despite him being incarcerated with other reprobates, im sure they will use some proudly British mentality on him....... just to make it hurt more.

"And allah will strike u down", wham up the but. No one striking him down, lets see his faith now.

Yo see the swollen black eye he has already?

It's gonna be a long long seven years my son.


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13184 posts, RR: 77
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 827 times:

The US does indeed have a interest in 'Capt Hook'.
So he might yet leave the UK prison frying pan, to go to a US Supermax fire.


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 817 times:

Quoting GDB (Reply 9):
The US does indeed have a interest in 'Capt Hook'.
So he might yet leave the UK prison frying pan, to go to a US Supermax fire.

whichever way, he's in the shit when he comes out.

The US can apply for his extradition, or he can be tossed out as his British citizenship has been revoked. If and when he comes out it may well be straight back into Belmarsh to await deportation.


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 808 times:

Personally, I think they should chop his hands off!

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 801 times:
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Quoting Ibhayi (Reply 8):
It's gonna be a long long seven years my son.

Less time served and good behaviour, he could be out in 2. What a system.



After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13184 posts, RR: 77
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 798 times:

One thing he won't be able to do inside, to pass the time, is to knock one out!

User currently offline11Bravo From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1718 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 785 times:

The US indictment includes charges that merit the death penalty. Under UK law it is my understanding that the US Government would have to sign a formal agreement that precludes a death sentence or there can be no extradition.

From the DoJ Press Release:

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2004/May/04_crm_371.htm

Quote:
Following Hamza’s arrest in London, an 11-count indictment returned by a federal grand jury on April 19, 2004 in the Southern District of New York was unsealed. The indictment charges Hamza with hostage taking and conspiracy to take hostages, in connection with an attack in Yemen in December 1998 that resulted in the death of four hostages. The indictment also charges Hamza with providing material support to terrorists, and specifically to al Qaeda, for allegedly attempting to set up a terrorist training camp in Bly, Oregon, from October 1999 to early 2000. The indictment also includes charges of providing material support to terrorists, specifically to al Qaeda and the Taliban, for facilitating violent jihad in Afghanistan.

The maximum sentence for the hostage taking charges is the death penalty or life imprisonment. Hamza also faces a maximum sentence of up to 100 years in prison on the additional charges contained in the indictment.

If he is convicted in the US, he will undoubtedly spend the rest of his life in prison.



WhaleJets Rule!
User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 771 times:

Quoting GDB (Reply 13):
One thing he won't be able to do inside, to pass the time, is to knock one out!

well anyway that jerk they locked up today has got a job waiting for him in the jug. He can save us a few quid and be Hamza's arse wiper.

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 14):
If he is convicted in the US, he will undoubtedly spend the rest of his life in prison.

if he gets extradited, if not he'll be going back to Egypt as he's no longer a UK citizen.

Somehow I doubt he'll walk out of Belmarsh as there is plenty of crap waiting for him in the US and elsewhere. He could even face further charges here.

One possibility is that he has appealed. The appeal court could even extend his sentence.


User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 757 times:

good stuff. didnt realise he had been in prison for 2 years already? longer the better anyway

Quoting GDB (Reply 9):
So he might yet leave the UK prison frying pan, to go to a US Supermax fire.

hah. reverse rendition!

its a thought though. i mean no way he is going to be allowed to have those hooks in a prison is he, so what are they going to stick on his arms insted?

some kim and aggy rubber gloves? Big grin


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13985 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 753 times:

Isn't the Egyptian government waiting to get their hands on him as well?

Jan


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 728 times:

To: Charles Clarke, Home Secretary

From: Steve Hodgson, Head of Human Resources, Prison Service

Date: 7th Feb 2006

Subject: Enabling New Customers


Dear Charles,

Please accept my belated thanks for the Christmas card and small bottle
of vintage malt whisky. I wasn't aware that Asda possessed their own
distillery. How very knowledgable of you, it I may say so, Home
Secretary.

As a Key Grade One Stakeholder in the ongoing Enabling Customers
Working Group, I hope you won't object to my opportunism in sending
this memorandum. I understand from recent press reports that the
radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza has just received a sentence of seven
years. May I personally congratulate you on this success. Thanks to
you, we can all sleep more safely in our beds at night. Well, at least
we can when we're not on duty.

As you may be aware, there will be fierce competition amongst the
prison governors to secure Mr Hamza's custom. Had you given any thought
to which prison he might chose? Whilst I would be the first to applaud
your wise policy of 'Customer Choice', I think you should consider
limiting Mr Hamza's options to the larger establishments. In
particular, I would strongly advocate selecting a prison which has a
thriving entertainments initiative.

The governors of Belmarsh and Wormwood Scrubs have already been in
contact asking for permission to amend their theatrical programmes to
provide for a seasonal Christmas pantomime. Coincidentally, both have
alighted upon PETER PAN.

Far be it from me to seek to influence you on this matter, but I
thought you might like to reflect upon the prifitable photo
opportunities that could arise from such a venture were Mr Hamza to be
involved. Christmas is the perfect time to put aside cultural and
social enmity and heralde our commonly shared values (even if Muslims
don't actually celebrate Christmas). By engaging Mr Hamza in an
empathy-inducing social activity we could demonstrate to the world at
large that not only had we broken the cleric's extreme resolve, but
that we are a tolerant and forgiving society.

His hook would also come in very useful.

Yours sincerely,

Steve Hodgson


User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 710 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 2):
To bad he can't be beheaded and mounted on Traitors Gate

No, but Britain can tell him to sling his hook in 7 years!



Breakfast in BHX, lunch in FAO, dinner in TIP, baggage in YYC.
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 708 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 18):
By engaging Mr Hamza in an
empathy-inducing social activity we could demonstrate to the world at
large that not only had we broken the cleric's extreme resolve, but
that we are a tolerant and forgiving society.

His hook would also come in very useful.

LOL !!

Btw, how did

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 16):
its a thought though. i mean no way he is going to be allowed to have those hooks in a prison is he, so what are they going to stick on his arms insted?

An enema bottle, perhaps?


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 708 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 18):
By engaging Mr Hamza in an
empathy-inducing social activity we could demonstrate to the world at
large that not only had we broken the cleric's extreme resolve, but
that we are a tolerant and forgiving society.

His hook would also come in very useful.

LOL !!

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 16):
its a thought though. i mean no way he is going to be allowed to have those hooks in a prison is he, so what are they going to stick on his arms insted?

An enema bottle, perhaps?


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 706 times:

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 19):

No, but Britain can tell him to sling his hook in 7 years!

he'll probably try and claim all the back money for the Incapacity benefit and top rates of Disability Living Allowance he was claiming due to his injuries.

Oh and the Motability car as well.

Abu Hamza's desire to overthrow the British establishment by violent means and "hoist the black flag of Islam over Downing Street" somehow did not include claiming as much money off the State as he could. As long as there were a few taxpayers still left alive after the Jihad to pay for it....


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