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Police Dog Gets A Hero's Funeral  
User currently offlineJspitfire From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 308 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4803 times:

A couple weeks ago, a police dog here in Vancouver died in the line of duty. He was caught under a train while trying to catch a robber. Yesterday the Vancouver police had a huge funeral for the dog, with over 700 police officers from as far away as Ontario attending. The dog received the full ceremonial funeral, with a color guard and pretty much everything a human officer would have received.

Many people have complained that this was only a dog, and that the ceremony has been overkill.

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/ne...28c603-836c-42ea-96ff-d2431c1bf6e1

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...206/nitro_funeral_060206/20060206/

What is your opinion? Does Nitro deserve the hero's funeral that he received?

Jason

86 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4797 times:

Quoting Jspitfire (Thread starter):

Many people have complained that this was only a dog, and that the ceremony has been overkill.

Like any other officer - that dog wore a badge and put his ass on the line for the citizens of Canada . . . damn right he deserved his funeral - with honors.

Salute Officcer Nitro.


User currently offlineAGC525 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4791 times:

Absolutely. I know in America police dogs are considered a law enforcement officer, and are even issued badges. I know plenty of police K9's and I care as much about them as the their human counterparts.

Myself as a volunteer firefighter, I feel the same towards our arson dogs. They provide the same level of service to the community. I would most certainly attend the service in my Class "A" uniform and show the respect the animal deserved.



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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4784 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Like any other officer - that dog wore a badge and put his ass on the line for the citizens of Canada . . . damn right he deserved his funeral - with honors.

 checkmark 



This picture is the answer:



Loyal dogs mean everything to a good man, and a good man means everything to a loyal dog.

Man's best friend. May you rest in peace, Nitro.




-NWA742


User currently offlineDamirc From Slovenia, joined Feb 2004, 724 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4779 times:

Agree also - he worked and put his life on the line - so he gets the full honors.

D.


User currently offlineWukka From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1017 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4776 times:

My best friend when I was growing up had a K9 cop for a dad.

His dogs were just as much a part of the family as they were part of the police force. Badge and all.

One of his partner dogs was shot during a drug bust, and received a full officer's funeral. I don't think that it's all that unusual.

Some might find it a waste of time and resources, but realistically, isn't any funeral?



We can agree to disagree.
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21528 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4765 times:

I have no problems with a police dog getting the full honors for a funeral. In fact, I don't think I'd have it any other way. They are just as much a member of the force as any human officer, and they deserve the same respect when they are killed in the line of duty.

-Mir



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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4724 times:

The dog deserved it and thanfully got it!


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User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4715 times:

Interesting subject.

One time I was down in Marion County and as I walked up to the courthouse a sheriff's deputy was walking an elderly, gimpy German Shepherd down the walk. I asked "What kind of criminal is that going to catch?" The deputy says "Oh, this is Gypsy, he was our drug dog, he's retired now from the arthritis but every once in a while the sheriff asks someone to take him out for a ride in the squad car-he really likes it."

Gypsy was cop, all the way to the bone.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4696 times:

I have to agree that this Officer/Dog died while working and deserved everything that was given.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineRyangooner From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 969 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4684 times:

In fact in my experience Police dogs are far more braver than some human officers!!!

without fear or favour......

Another fallen colleague....

Ryan



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User currently offlineChrisjake From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4674 times:

..its too bad we cannot do this for ALL our canine friends.


chris



Well nothing's dead down here, just a little tired
User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3207 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4661 times:

I'm sorry but I'm not really an animal person, my personal view is that, yes the dog should be recognized for its work but I think what has happened here is OTT.

Quoting Jspitfire (Thread starter):
with over 700 police officers from as far away as Ontario attending

This shocks me, 700 police officers, who could be out enforcing the law are attending the funeral of a DOG!?!?

Please remember this is my opinion.



Religion is an illusion of childhood... Outgrown under proper education.
User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4658 times:

Quoting Ryangooner (Reply 12):
In fact in my experience Police dogs are far more braver than some human officers!!!

Not to mention looks and intelligence... Big grin
Uh-oh, there comes ANCFlyer...  duck 

(Just kiddin', several good friends of mine are cops...)


User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4651 times:

I wouldn't take it too serious. I mean, I was really surprised not to find him complain about Nitro not being allowed to carry a gun to defend himself, so that he could have shot the robber and would not have get killed by the train...  Yeah sure

User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4641 times:

Seems like a waste of time, money and resources. Sure, it's a shame the dog was killed and a funeral of some sort is certainly in order. Something of this magnitude, however, is overkill. (no pun intended) But as long as my tax dollars aren't paying for it, I don't have an issue.

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4629 times:
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I was half way reading this to my wife and we were both in tears.

Well Hung and Daleaholic, I hope the police dog that could have saved your ass sits and watches while your life slips away. I can't stand such heartlessness, the dog gave his life doing his duty without a thought for his own safety. In this country there was a recent telethon to raise money for bulletproof vests for K9 "officers" and the response was overwhelming.



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User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4620 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 22):
I was half way reading this to my wife and we were both in tears.

That alone tells me that you cannot approach the topic rationally. Therefore, your subsequent comments can be dismissed out of hand.

Quoting Andz (Reply 22):
I hope the police dog that could have saved your ass sits and watches while your life slips away.

I think wishing ill will on strangers on the Internet because they don't think such a monstrosity of a funeral and wake is necessary really shows who has the issues here.

[Edited 2006-02-08 19:52:18]

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4610 times:
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yeah and having read the drivel you post on here most of the time shows that this should have been the first and last time I react to your crap.


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 31
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4587 times:

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 16):
This shocks me, 700 police officers, who could be out enforcing the law are attending the funeral of a DOG!?!?

700 officers from multiple departments, and also its not as if an entire department went. Same thing as when a police force marches in a parade, those officers are marching, there are still others, or reserve officers patroling the streets.

Quoting WellHung (Reply 21):
Seems like a waste of time, money and resources. Sure, it's a shame the dog was killed and a funeral of some sort is certainly in order. Something of this magnitude, however, is overkill. (no pun intended) But as long as my tax dollars aren't paying for it, I don't have an issue.

This dog was a police officer. Period. I dont care if he walks on two legs or four. He was doing his duty, Protecting and Serving. Just because he diddnt speak, carry a gun or actually make arrests doest even matter here. Furthermore, I dont beleive tax dollars paid for the funeral any way. Have some compassion man. That officer lost a friend, pet, fellow officer, and partner, all in one shot. Not to mention the fact that if the dog lived with kids, Billy and Suzie lost the family dog.

Quoting Andz (Reply 22):
I was half way reading this to my wife and we were both in tears.

Well Hung and Daleaholic, I hope the police dog that could have saved your ass sits and watches while your life slips away. I can't stand such heartlessness, the dog gave his life doing his duty without a thought for his own safety. In this country there was a recent telethon to raise money for bulletproof vests for K9 "officers" and the response was overwhelming.

 checkmark  Well said.



Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4582 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 24):
this should have been the first and last time I react to your crap.

Agreed. If you can't help yourself from flying off the handle and saying you hope a person dies anytime someone offers a viewpoint different than yours, you should certainly keep it to yourself, lest you disobey the site rules and raise your blood pressure. In fact, if you react so strongly to so-called 'drivel' on the Internet, you have more issues than originally apparent. I think they have drugs to help that nowadays.


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 31
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4576 times:

Quoting WellHung (Reply 26):
Agreed. If you can't help yourself from flying off the handle and saying you hope a person dies anytime someone offers a viewpoint different than yours, you should certainly keep it to yourself, lest you disobey the site rules and raise your blood pressure. In fact, if you react so strongly to so-called 'drivel' on the Internet, you have more issues than originally apparent. I think they have drugs to help that nowadays.

Umm, I beleive Andz was mearly stating that it was sad that you had no compassion for a police unit that was killed in the field. But the fact that you reacted so harshly to someone who happend to disagree needs to take a dose of his own advice and calm down. You know what the best medicine for that is? Turn off your computer and walk away. Period, just stop posting.



Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4566 times:

I wonder if tax-paying Canadians get a funeral like that from the state when they cop it?

User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 25):
This dog was a police officer. Period. I dont care if he walks on two legs or four.

You are just making that up because even the actual Vancouver police officers don't describe him as a police officer. They simply call him a 'member of the police department'. No argument there. He certaily was a member of the police department.

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 25):
He was doing his duty, Protecting and Serving.

Indeed.

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 25):
Just because he diddnt speak, carry a gun or actually make arrests doest even matter here.

But he could lick his own balls! Hmm... so he's a police officer, but he's not a police officer. Maybe he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 25):
Furthermore, I dont beleive tax dollars paid for the funeral any way.

The article states that they don't know how it will be paid for. I just said that although it's extreme, I don't care that they did it, but I wouldn't want my tax dollars going toward such an extravaganza.

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 25):
Have some compassion man. That officer lost a friend, pet, fellow officer, and partner, all in one shot.

Yes, but you are confusing the issues here. This circus of a funeral has nothing to do with one man's pain and suffering. I certainly feel for the man. I don't think such a charade is warranted.

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 25):
Not to mention the fact that if the dog lived with kids, Billy and Suzie lost the family dog.

Plenty of people lose their dogs every day and it isn't easy for any of them. So this point does not resonate whatsoever.


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 26):
But the fact that you reacted so harshly to someone who happend to disagree needs to take a dose of his own advice and calm down. You know what the best medicine for that is? Turn off your computer and walk away. Period, just stop posting.

You think that was harsh? You need some thicker skin, bro. But I guess you don't hear much pushing that lawnmower around all day.  rotfl 


25 WellHung : Depends on how many people's legs they hump.
26 Dragon-wings : That dog deserved every bit of that funeral. Not only do those dogs put their lives on the line protecting the public, but will put their lives on the
27 Mdorbust : He's an officer that died in the line of duty. Of course.
28 FSPilot747 : Are you and your wife both women? It was a dog. You think it knew it was on the police force "putting its ass on the line"? Do you know how much mapl
29 Cadet57 : "And the most in-sensitive post of the year goes to....."
30 Post contains links and images WellHung :
31 Post contains images Daleaholic : People die each day, dogs die each day. Why should that dog get EXTRA special treatment because it helped catch criminals? Fair enough it did a lot o
32 FSPilot747 : "And the most in-sensitive post of the year goes to....." The Maple Syrup was a joke, just poking fun. However, maybe you were refering to: I think if
33 Daleaholic : AMEN to that brother! I totally agree with FSPilot747 on this matter.
34 MDorBust : It's plain to see which people in this thread have put thier lives on the line, along side these dogs, and which people are no nuts internet jockies.
35 TEBguy : This may just be the dog lover in me speaking, but, a police dog is as much a police Officer as his 2 legged partners & is most definitely entitled to
36 FSPilot747 : Yeah, because he went through Police Academy right? And consciously chose to do his duty and is fully cognizant of his job. Very nice, compare a trai
37 Post contains images ANCFlyer : How many constables from Vancouver did you speak with to arrive at this conclusion? Sounds like to me. Incorrect. In most jurisdictions ni this count
38 AAFLT1871 : Have you seen the size of Canada? Seeing police departments run on average of 3 shifts, 7a.m to 3 p.m, 3 p.m to 11p.m, and 11:00 p.m to 7:00 a.m. So
39 DL021 : Funerals are for the living, and the officers who attended feel a special bond with the animals who work alongside them, and upon whom they must rely.
40 FSPilot747 : Ok. I don't see how it eliminates my credibility. And it is precisely in the same ball game. I don't see how. The dog died, was given an overly elabo
41 MDorBust : I stand corrected. I had forgotten the two fallen Capital Police officers.
42 ANCFlyer : There are also other non-military "American Heroes" buried at Arlington . . . the point being is the comment from FSPilot was made more out of ignora
43 FSPilot747 : Officer Nitro? Good heavens. There was nothing ignorant about what I said. Where did I misstate something about Arlington? I pointed out that dogs ar
44 KaiGywer : Who says they were supposed to work that day? You know, cops get days off too sometimes...
45 Post contains links MDorBust : That would be the proper form of address. It doesn't matter if you believe he was a police officer, he quite simply was. This will piss you off then:
46 Post contains links ANCFlyer : Bingo! Military Police Working Dogs can be buried there. Go here, read this, make yourself smarter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlington_National_C
47 AAFLT1871 : You are about 10 chapters behind ANCFlyer, you have a long way to go. Yes, I do. I am not a police officer, but I served in the Marine Corps. I know
48 NWA742 : Pretty much the right way to go about it -- waste of time. You can only laugh or shake your head at the know-it-all high-horse attitude. (hey Horus,
49 FSPilot747 : Don't get too excited. Anyway, I skimmed it and I didn't see anything about dogs, but you know more about that stuff than I do so I'll take your word
50 A346Dude : We give a police dog a full and noble funeral, and shed a tear for its demise. We eat a pig, cow, or lamb for dinner. Yep, makes perfect sense to me!
51 FSPilot747 : No, chief, I don't. I just thought it was interesting that someone cried over a dog that he read about in the paper. Different if it was his dog, lik
52 Cadet57 : Actually I beleive I read somewhere, IIRC in CA a gang member got life for shooting a police dog in the line of duty. So yes, it is possible, maybe n
53 AAFLT1871 : As it was easy for you to pick on a guy because he cried over a story he read. Just remember everyones emotions are different. Don't call him out bec
54 FSPilot747 : It wasn't a joke. And I'm not laughing. If you're really getting this disturbed, then either grow a pair or stop opening this thread. Or maybe you di
55 NWA742 : Gotta laugh at these individuals who think that using over-simplistic lines of thought on the world make them sound smarter. Hate to break it to you
56 FSPilot747 : I guess you're right. It was too easy. If that's all it takes for the guy to cry, he's gotta spend all day crying, because there's a lot sadder thing
57 Cadet57 : Maybe im trying to figure the logic that you seem not to get when it comes to this police officer, ya thats right i called him an OFFICER, becuase th
58 FSPilot747 : Witty.
59 Post contains links AAFLT1871 : Here is where the growing up needs to take place. Move on. Do not exploit him on here for showing his emotions! http://www.policek9.com/html/valor.ht
60 MDorBust : Third degree felony in the state of Texas.... BUT, if you are observed by an officer or armed citizen in the act of attempting to assault a police an
61 Post contains links and images ANCFlyer : We're not even reading the same book AAFlt . . . Excited? On an internet web site? Debating the finer points of a police officer named Nitro? Not har
62 FSPilot747 : Ok. Nitro was a police officer. Was my childhood cat a homeowner? He had a catbox. And kittens. I suppose he was a beloved husband and father, too. A
63 Post contains images MDorBust : You don't see it... but you won't read it... A fine product of public education. 553.15
64 Post contains links FSPilot747 : Sec. 553.15 Persons eligible for burial in Arlington National Cemetery. (a) Any active duty member of the Armed Forces (except those members serving o
65 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I don't know, I had a Himalayan named Stormy at one point. She was damn sure in charge at my house! You're becoming monotonous . . .
66 FSPilot747 : Good point. Yeah I know.
67 A346Dude : I'm not looking to sound smart, I'm looking to have a consistent view of the world - something you are clearly lacking. What, exactly, is the differe
68 Itsjustme : Hey ANC, just curious....what's the penalty in your neck of the woods for a shithead found guilty of killing a police dog in the line of duty? Here it
69 ANCFlyer : AS 12.55.125. Sentences of Imprisonment For Felonies. (A) other than for manslaughter and the defendant possessed a firearm, used a dangerous instrum
70 Itsjustme : Excellent, thanks. I had to amend my first post. Punishment is up to 10 years, not 15.
71 Jspitfire : Wow I'm surprised at the response this is getting. It appears to be quite a touchy subject. I think that Nitro deserved the sendoff he got. It don't t
72 Post contains images WellHung : Coincidentally, it is also clear which of these groups can distinguish between dogs and humans. If you bothered to read the articles linked in the th
73 KaiGywer : And in Minnesota: 609.596 Killing or harming a public safety dog. Subdivision 1. Felony. It is a felony for any person to intentionally and without ju
74 WhiteHatter : I'll agree with that. Our coppers always regard their dog as the same as having another officer out there with them. It also shows respect for the do
75 KaiGywer : Or even better than another officer. A couple of sayings: When citizens need help - they call the police When the police need help - they call K9 K9
76 Post contains images WellHung :
77 L-188 : A lot of places, with encouragement from animal rights groups have moved to have the laws that govern offenses against police offices, also apply to
78 FSPilot747 : ANCFlyer, you never offered me proof that dogs can be buried in Arlington (something I find rather silly and foolish. I'm sure Vietnam veterans would
79 NWA742 : Hey if I'm put in an applicable situation where protecting my life and/or the lives of loved ones means someone else's death, I do have that right, a
80 MDorBust : Sorry, but you will have to understand that those of us who have put it on the line with these dogs can't take internet jockies seriously.. unless yo
81 WellHung : If you can't distinguis between a human and a dog, I wouldn't expect you to be able to understand what I'm talking about anyway. So no loss either wa
82 FSPilot747 : Why can't you just admit that no dog is worthy of an Arlington burial? 553.15(a): Any active duty member of the Armed Forces (except those members se
83 MDorBust : Emphasis mine. Starting to get the picture now? It's not a matter of what I think. It's a matter of what is.[Edited 2006-02-10 00:05:46]
84 FSPilot747 : Nevermind. It's not even worth it.[Edited 2006-02-10 00:18:35]
85 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Well, you're in good company Hung, PJ doesn't like paying me either . . . welcome to the club. I went as far with you as I am going to go. Your compa
86 Post contains images FSPilot747 : I don't know, but it was fun while it lasted. Seeya on another thread
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