CFCUQ From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 712 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1322 times:
It's interesting how the gov't can release snippets of "evidence" to support their case before any court action has even been scheduled. If this whole thing is found to be an error or mistake, or even totally accurate, people's lives have been destroyed in the court of public opinion. What if the wiretaps that purportedly implicate Gretzky also contain the words "WTF are you talking about?"and are conveniently left out of the press releases?
YooYoo From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 6057 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1312 times:
Ya, when this first came out, Gretzky was asked a question about his wife's' involvement and his answer was to the effect..."I don't know anything, why don't you ask her?"..and said with a smile to boot.
I thought that a very strange comment to make. This is his wife they are asking about,.... a very serious allegation. Deflect the question, avoid it......"no comment"...sheeesh
$500,000 possibly bet?...if so, he would have to have some knowledge that this was going on...common. He's a smart guy.
I'd like to know of the other players involved. And why name Gretzky's wife and not others?.....i have a silly theory.
It was done to throw off the Canadian Olympic hockey team. Gretzky is the head of the team, Tocchet is Canadian.....The American's really want to win. We know they have no chance of winning even with the Canadians in the middle of a controversy, but they just want every advantage to place higher than them. I also blame G.W.B. for theses actions.
I am so smart, i am so smart... S-M-R-T... i mean S-M-A-R-T
Arrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1301 times:
Gretzky's first response to questions about his wife's involvement (and they've been married for nearly 20 years) was to express surprise and tell reporters they'll have to ask Janet.
The normal response, if you don't know what's going on, would be to say something like "that's preposterous, my wife would never do that." Later, you can express shock and disappointment. I think the Great one has already telegraphed, in that first response, that he had some knowledge of this. It doesn't help that Tocchet is a good friend as well as assistance coach.
I know Gretzky has millions, but if the $500,000 figure is correct he'd have to be aware of that much money disapearing from an account over a couple of months. It's not exactly mad money.
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Well, with alleged ties to organized crime, the potential for influencing the outcomes of other sporting events certainly is there. Consider the absolutely shoddy refereeing in the Super Bowl and that Janet Jones Gretzky allegedly bet $75,000 on it.
AirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1223 times:
Isn't the American way, you're innocent until proven gulity. I suppose in a marriage with the wealth that Wayne has, its possible he didn't know what his wife was doing? I'm sure he has a professional money manager that handles in affairs, and since now he is a head coach, I guessing he is gone quite a bit, and how would he know if she gamble while he was got, although the Coyotes were home the week prior to the Super Bowl in which "not a single call was missed."
Logan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1163 times:
Quoting AirCop (Reply 9): Isn't the American way, you're innocent until proven gulity.
Of course. No one here seems to be villifying anyone. We're just speculating on the news we've heard. No matter what, it's certainly not what the NHL needs after finally getting through a labor dispute, having a sucessful season, and having it blown up right before a two-week layoff for the Olympics so everyone can talk about it.
Anyone wonder if it was a coincidence that the allegations were announced right after the Superbowl? This is big shit, and heads will roll, IMO.
And Aircop: notice the words I used in my short previous post.
Tom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1075 times:
Quoting Jutes85 (Reply 18): You are all just pissed that we won the Gold Medal in hockey in Salt Lake.
We got over that after about ten minutes. On the other hand, the Russians are still pissed that we won in 1980. Besides, we had other national hockey issues at at the time: ie Chelios, etc. after they got through trashing their SLC housing..... .
Tom at MSY
"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16367 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1073 times:
It just does not seem logical that JJ could have bet large sums without Wayne's knowledge. All their wealth is his -- she has no appreciable assets of her own. Unless he gave her several million to play with, along with no questions. Which is unlikely. Or is it? She does not strike me as a sports nut who would feel confident to make her own sports betting decisions.
Quoting Boeingfanyyz (Reply 20): just the thought of the "Great-One" losing his enormous reputation...mind-boggling!
Not to me. He's just a hockey player with mediocre intelligence, and far too much cash. Combine that with an airhead actress wife and scandal will rear its head (the only surprise is that it took until 2006 to happen).
He should stay home from the Olympics. He's lost the high moral ground to appear there.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.