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VfB Stuttgart Fired Star Coach Giovanni Trapattoni  
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1146 times:

Here is a nice thread for Andreas and LOT767-300ER.  Wink

According to this article (sorry, only in German) from sport.ard.de has the Bundesliga team VfB Stuttgart fired it's coach Giovanni Trapattoni yesterday night.

"It was not an easy decision" said the team management is a press release.

"Giovanni Trapattoni is the most successful football coach in the world but he wasn't as successful with Stuttgart as we thought, because of that we had to replace him" said VfB President Erwin Staudt.

The new coach is Armin Veh (I am not sure but wasn't he coach in Bielefeld some time ago?).

This is ridiculous in my opinion. Sure, Trapattoni wasn't really successful with Stuttgart but I think that the decision to fire him came way too quick. I will miss him.

Patrick

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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Thread starter):
The new coach is Armin Veh (I am not sure but wasn't he coach in Bielefeld some time ago?).

Farther east, in the lovable *cough, cough* city of Rostock at Hansa  Wink .

Quoting Sabena332 (Thread starter):

This is ridiculous in my opinion. Sure, Trapattoni wasn't really successful with Stuttgart but I think that the decision to fire him came way too quick. I will miss him.

That's how football works: Players are not willing to run for the millions they make, which must be the coach's, and only the coach's fault  Yeah sure . Just look at what happened to Fach in Wolfsburg.


User currently offlineTheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1136 times:

Shame, I always thought Giovanni was comedy. Anyone know where to find the video clip of him exploding at a press conference?
Thanks
Dominic



ALITALIA,All Landings In Torino, All Luggage In Athens ;)
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1135 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 1):
That's how football works: Players are not willing to run for the millions they make, which must be the coach's, and only the coach's fault Yeah sure . Just look at what happened to Fach in Wolfsburg.

Exactly! I don't understand that the coach has to suffer at first when the team isn't doing well. Ok, it is the easiest solution but not always the most successful.

Quoting TheSorcerer (Reply 2):
Shame, I always thought Giovanni was comedy. Anyone know where to find the video clip of him exploding at a press conference?

Go to http://sport.ard.de/sp/fussball/ then scroll a bit down and click on "Trapattonis "Flasche-leer"-Rede [12. März 1998]". This was definitely the best press conference ever in the history of the Bundesliga. Big grin

Patrick


User currently offlineYooYoo From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 6057 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1130 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 3):
Ok, it is the easiest solution

That's exactly it. Goes for all sports.

Done to shake up a team, it may put positive results in the short term, but after a few games it becomes evident that the "problem" goes deeper and all you can see are players faces that don't meld with the entire team philosophy.



I am so smart, i am so smart... S-M-R-T... i mean S-M-A-R-T
User currently offlineCamAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1122 times:

VFB is a boring club., they played unattractive soccer (the remis and 0:0 team).. if they drop in the 2nd devision with that East German Veh, no onw will miss them Big grin  Wink

I rather prefer these clubs as Freiburg, Bochum (they grey mouse), St. Pauli etc, who have style and players with passion, along with a healthy fan community, as pposed to tehse boring "Schwaben"  Smile


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1116 times:

It is sad to see that charismatic coach having to leave  Sad
I have feared for this already for quite some while, but still think that any coach should be given more (moral) support by the respective club´s management.
It really is no friendly working environment in some football clubs - while other stick with their coach for more than 10 years, even if the club play unsuccessful for some time !
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1108 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Thread starter):
the Bundesliga team VfB Stuttgart fired it's coach Giovanni Trapattoni yesterday night.

Heard that he now goes to Barcelona. While I thought he might be the right man to go to New Orleans to bring REAL football to that place. Of course in close co-operation with the mayor of that city. Mr Trappatoni and the Mayor of N.O. would be an absolutely unique team !  duck 


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1096 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 7):
Heard that he now goes to Barcelona.

Trap is going to FC Barcelona now?  Wow! Where did you hear that?

Patrick


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1091 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 7):
Heard that he now goes to Barcelona.

I hope you mean Espanyol, as there is no chance in hell that Barca will fire Gullit.


User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1080 times:

Quoting CamAir (Reply 5):
VFB is a boring club., they played unattractive soccer (the remis and 0:0 team).. if they drop in the 2nd devision with that East German Veh, no onw will miss them

Oh no the mighty god from Eintracht Frankfurt has spoken...let me bow my head to your AOL.de subscribing self.

Actually Ive cracked to who you really support......Energie Cottbus. Comeon mate, dont deny it! Speak Up Speak Up!  Silly

Quoting Sabena332 (Thread starter):
Here is a nice thread for Andreas and LOT767-300ER.

When I saw the topic I knew it was going to me and Andreas with their heads in this....damn you!  Silly

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 7):
Heard that he now goes to Barcelona. While I thought he might be the right man to go to New Orleans to bring REAL football to that place. Of course in close co-operation with the mayor of that city. Mr Trappatoni and the Mayor of N.O. would be an absolutely unique team !

Barca? Good laugh.

Real Football = American Football....if you think that I truly wish you choke on a Kinder egg tonight while you sip your Miller Lite!


User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3761 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1077 times:

Quoting CamAir (Reply 5):
VFB is a boring club., they played unattractive soccer (the remis and 0:0 team)..

Maybe there is a connection between Trapattoni and this kind of playing?


User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1074 times:

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 11):
Maybe there is a connection between Trapattoni and this kind of playing?

Maybe theres a connection between Eintracht Frankfurt and 2nd division?  Silly


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1073 times:

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 12):
Maybe theres a connection between Eintracht Frankfurt and 2nd division?

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Seriously, Trap is the most successful football "Vereinstrainer" in the world, I am sure that he knows how to coach a team (especially a German Bundesliga team), it rather looks like there is an issue with the players of the VfB.

Patrick


User currently offlineTheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1067 times:

Ahhhhhhhhh shit, you need that piece of crap Real Player to watch it.
Dominic



ALITALIA,All Landings In Torino, All Luggage In Athens ;)
User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3761 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1059 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 13):
Seriously, Trap is the most successful football "Vereinstrainer" in the world, I am sure that he knows how to coach a team (especially a German Bundesliga team), it rather looks like there is an issue with the players of the VfB.

I disagree. I think the issue is that Trap is playing defensive, he did so even with Bayern M�nchen, the difference was, of course, that Bayern had players which were capable of winning games... But under Trapattoni, Bayern seldomly won with more than 1-3 goals... Certainly Trapattoni is a great coach, but I don't like the defensive "italian" way of playing football. I am not saying that the German way is a nice alternative, of course  Smile. I saw Barcelona - Real Madrid last year (2:4), that was real football... Who needs a defense when you have good attackers.

Only exemption is the German national team. I prefer winning 1:0 ten times, just we become World Champion!


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1053 times:

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 15):
I think the issue is that Trap is playing defensive

Trap is using the strengths of every team he's coaching, that is what makes him a great coach.

Patrick


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1044 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 8):
Where did you hear that?

Third hand. Somebody heard it on radio, but could NOT say which club in Barcelona.


User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1039 times:

When he coached Italy it really sucked big time on games where the money was spend. I don't know what he did at Stuttgart but I guess it was the same.

I' am an AC milan fan BTW, preferably attacking but surely capable of playing Catenaccio.
But frankly the last real catenaccio I remember was played between Italy and The Netherlands in 2000...
But Again I' am used to the Italian competition that is regarded defensive to many!


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

Bielefeld currently leads with 2:1 in the game vs. Stuttgart.  Yeah sure

Patrick


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1014 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 19):
Bielefeld currently leads with 2:1 in the game vs. Stuttgart.

That´s also final score ! Big grin
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1011 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 20):
That´s also final score !

Right, no luck with the new coach in the first game.

What was up with Schalke? 7:4 vs. Leverkusen? Incredible!  Wow!

Patrick


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1010 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 20):
That�s also final score !

That's Stuttgart's own fault. With Trapattoni, it would have been a 2:2  Silly .

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 21):
What was up with Schalke? 7:4 vs. Leverkusen? Incredible!

Awesome game, brilliant to watch, though I could have done without Kuranyi, Lincoln and Asamoah scoring a goal. But again, awesome game.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1008 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 22):
With Trapattoni, it would have been a 2:2

Exactly. Big grin

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 22):
Awesome game, brilliant to watch

Switch on your TV (Sportschau), they will show a report of the game in a few minutes after the commercials. I already saw it live on Premiere but I will watch it again now (and later again in the Sportstudio).

Patrick


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1000 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 23):
Switch on your TV (Sportschau), they will show a report of the game in a few minutes after the commercials. I already saw it live on Premiere but I will watch it again now (and later again in the Sportstudio).

Nah, no Sportschau for me. Saw it live on Premiere, saw the recap on Premiere, will watch it on the Sportstudio, and on the DSF tomorrow. Don't want to oversaturate my interest in this game  Wink .


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 997 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 24):
Nah, no Sportschau for me.

Usually I am not watching the Sportschau either, the commercials are way too annoying but at least is it better than "ran" on Sat 1 which was the most horrible Bundesliga magazine ever!

Well, I am looking forward to the Sportstudio later (live from Turin today).

Patrick


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