HKA From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 148 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1693 times:
people need to understand that publishing antismetic cartoons or anti-islamic cartoons is one thing and publishing a Holy Prophet's cartoon is another especially if he is potrayed as a terrorist.
Did the Iranians say they were having cartoon contest of Jesus or Moses. No!
A muslim would never do that.
All muslims have deep respect for all the Holy Prophets and you will never see a depiction of any prophet in any muslim country or by a muslim.
I have seens tons of cartoons of sadam, osam bil laden and even anti-islamic but no muslim took them seriously.
It is shame how the X-tians and jews depict their prophets. See the movies and the numerous artworks. Looks like they are treating their prophets as art objects...and by the way Moses, Jesus, Abraham etc are also holy Prophets of the muslims too.
Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8724 posts, RR: 43
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1693 times:
Quoting HKA (Reply 6): you will never see a depiction of any prophet in any muslim country or by a muslim.
Sorry, but there have been numerous. I can't seem to find what I've read on it now, but the images I've seen were of similar nature as historic depictions of Jesus.
Quoting HKA (Reply 6): It is shame how the X-tians and jews depict their prophets.
Joseph Ratzinger would probably agree. I think a majority in "the West" has chosen their definition of freedom as part of their ethical world picture or religion, if you define it as such. Most people can argue for hours about things like naturalisation, civil rights and so on, but if you asked them to discuss the life of Jesus they'd be quite unlikely to know much that they could discuss about, myself included.
I think most people in Germany strongly agree with Christian ethics you can find in the New Testament (and the old one, too) because the way they're usually interpreted is just the same as our definition of justice, mercy and decency. Thus, religion is a fairly abstract thing for many Westerners. They'll gladly discuss its implications on modern societies, but wouldn't dream of going to church more than once a week at most. This is why we they (or "we") don't take lampooning Jesus or Christianity very personally - we have a lot of questions and doubts of our own anyway, and as long as we can somehow agree on the basics, the rest is fair game.
Quoting HKA (Reply 6): Looks like they are treating their prophets as art objects
as explained above, not necessarily "objects", but rather "ideas"
Iconoclasm isn't all that popular in Christianity, especially Catholocism. Lutheran (my affiliation) churches usually don't have many images, which I like for its simplicity. Baroque Catholic churches on the other hand are laden with images and statues of saints, angels, prophetes, God, Jesus and everything else remotely associated with or completely unrelated to the religion. So you can definitely say the church itself played the first major role in making an art object out of religion and its various characters.
Quoting HKA (Reply 6): and by the way Moses, Jesus, Abraham etc are also holy Prophets of the muslims too.
Abraham as well? Didn't know that, but it sure was nice when I first heard Jesus is a holy man in Islam, too. Makes it a bit easier to find excuses for not hating one another.
Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.