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US Seeks Georgia's Help For Possible Iran Strike  
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2559 times:

Interesting article...
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...ename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

American officials have been quietly probing whether Georgia, situated just northwest of Iran, will be willing to allow Washington to use its military bases and airfields in the event of a military conflict with Teheran, The Jerusalem Post has been told.

The Americans have been putting out feelers, a high-ranking Georgian government foreign affairs official told the Post, in advance of a possible military strike to prevent Iran from achieving nuclear weapons capability.

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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2546 times:

And why is this news?

It makes sense . . . and I'll guarantee it's not the first time the US has gone to countries in that region seeking to negotiate for this type of support. It's called planning . . . it's done all the time.

It's not as if the State Department or the DoD woke up yesterday morning and decided, "Oh shit, we should get a base there in case we need it next month".


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2542 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
It makes sense . . . and I'll guarantee it's not the first time the US has gone to countries in that region seeking to negotiate for this type of support. It's called planning . . . it's done all the time.

Exactly. It's called making contingency plans if there's a worst-case scenario. Nice of Georgia, however, to make it public knowledge. Not.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2537 times:

You always know if something "is up" at the Pentagon . . . go driving by in the late evening and see if the lights are on 3rd and 4th floor, in E-Ring, facing I-395 . . . last I was there, that was the war-planning area . . . plus, it's a well known fact, Dominos Pizza deliveries are way, way up on nights like that.

This is not news . . . this is normal.


User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 801 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2524 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 2):
Nice of Georgia, however, to make it public knowledge. Not.

Too right they should make it public knowledge. Georgia and Iran are good neighbours. Iran helped it out alot during their energy crises a couple of weeks ago. Im sure Georgia would never even consider it. As well as being good neighbours the well being of Iran is interlinked with Georgia's own future. Its good to let everyone know what the US is upto.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2518 times:

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 4):
Too right they should make it public knowledge. Georgia and Iran are good neighbours. Iran helped it out alot during their energy crises a couple of weeks ago. Im sure Georgia would never even consider it.

They're obviously considering it, as they're probably as nervous about a nuclear Iran as anyone. I don't know where you get that from. Georgia, since the fall of the USSR, has been on pretty good terms with the U.S.


User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6875 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

Definitely a good idea to pre-plan. I remember how difficult the logistics of insertion and extrication were for Operation Eagle Claw and the ill-fated hostage rescue mission. Definitely a bear!

User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2502 times:

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 4):
Im sure Georgia would never even consider it.

depends how much of the old  twocents  was involved.

however.

if actually planning a war, a shocking idea for some in the whitehouse i know. can avoid what is happening in iraq then its a good thing. like yak said its also a good thing to know what america is up to.


User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 801 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2498 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
They're obviously considering it, as they're probably as nervous about a nuclear Iran as anyone. I don't know where you get that from.

They wouldnt consider it in a million years. Even if they were fearful of Iran and its nuclear program they wouldnt anger Iran by doing this.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
Georgia, since the fall of the USSR, has been on pretty good terms with the U.S.

They have also good relations with Iran that they dont want turn into hostility. Being on good terms with the US doesnt mean being party to some of its dangerous plots.

[Edited 2006-02-20 17:49:58]

User currently offlineSoyuzavia From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2470 times:
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No-one should be surprised, after all Georgia has a recent and well documented history of allowing its territory to be used for the launching of terrorist attacks against other nations.

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2466 times:

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 8):
Being on good terms with the US doesnt mean being party to some of its dangerous plots.

Tell me, what's more dangerous: the U.S. and the west trying to keep a nation that has openly said it wants to destroy another from having nuclear weapons, or said nation that wants nuclear weapons, and has threatened to destroy a nation?

For someone living in a free nation, my friend, you sure have a warped sense of reality.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2460 times:

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 8):
Being on good terms with the US doesnt mean being party to some of its dangerous plots.

Tell me, what's more dangerous: the U.S. and the west trying to keep a nation that has openly said it wants to destroy another from having nuclear weapons, or said nation that wants nuclear weapons, and has threatened to destroy a nation?

For someone living in a free nation, my friend, you sure have a warped sense of reality.


User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6875 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2435 times:

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 8):
Being on good terms with the US doesnt mean being party to some of its dangerous plots.

So trying to stop the inherently dangerous plot of Iran becoming a nuclear power is itself a dangerous plot?

Pass me that bong, because that's some good stuff you got there.


User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 801 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2420 times:

Iran would be well advised to develop nuclear weapons as its enemies and potential enemies have them. A former Israeli defence minister has even admitted so, going so far as to say it would be a crazy defence strategy for Iran, that didnt include a nuclear detterent. A US plan to bomb Iranian nuclear installations would indeed be very dangerous both to Iran and the rest of the world firstly from a nuclear fallout, direct civilian casualties and from Iran's retaliation.

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2416 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
The Americans have been putting out feelers, a high-ranking Georgian government foreign affairs official told the Post, in advance of a possible military strike to prevent Iran from achieving nuclear weapons capability.

F&cking irresponsible of whoever spoke to the press about it.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 13):
Iran would be well advised to develop nuclear weapons as its enemies and potential enemies have them. A former Israeli defence minister has even admitted so, going so far as to say it would be a crazy defence strategy for Iran, that didnt include a nuclear detterent. A US plan to bomb Iranian nuclear installations would indeed be very dangerous both to Iran and the rest of the world firstly from a nuclear fallout, direct civilian casualties and from Iran's retaliation.

I agree with Slider, pass me what you're smoking - I want to ananlyze it . . . . gotta be some strong shit.

What say you of the fact that Iran is hosting "How to be a Suicide (homicide) Bomber" classes. You think this is normal mainstream activity for any government???


User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 801 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2403 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 14):
F&cking irresponsible of whoever spoke to the press about it.

Irresponsible? Like as if he is an employee of the CIA or something? Could well be that Georgians want to make it known what the US is doing.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
I agree with Slider, pass me what you're smoking - I want to ananlyze it

Think you must be under the influence of something mindbending if you think that attacking Iran is actually a good idea.
Yes, really "mainstream".   

[Edited 2006-02-20 20:30:27]

User currently offlineMKEdude From South Korea, joined May 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2364 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
US Seeks Georgia's Help For Possible Iran Strike

For it's part Georgia remarked that it would be glad to help but the reply was an hour late as all the defense people were trapped in traffic on the top-end perimeter.

The plan is to use Delta jets to infiltrate Iranian airspace, and then have the entire coaching staff of the Atlanta Braves jump out using parachutes from the Home Depot. The Braves coaches (being trained nuclear technicians) will take over the Iranian nuclear program, make it look really successful on paper, but when the Iranians try to use it everything will fall apart.

The remaining Iranian nuclear technicians will all drop dead in a few years, having subsisted entirely on a diet of moon pies, peach cobbler, and onion rings from the Varsity. And the Iranian government will have no urge to start a new program, as they will be completely embroiled in the Tech v. Georgia debate.

Now what can Georgia do for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?



"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline." Frank Zappa
User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6875 posts, RR: 34
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2364 times:

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 17):
Now what can Georgia do for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

Well, you forgot that they'll need to provide supplies of Coca-Cola. The Official Drink of the Iranian Invasion.  rotfl 

Great post MKE...LOL!


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 13):
Iran would be well advised to develop nuclear weapons as its enemies and potential enemies have them.

Did it occur to you that "it's enemies" is anyone that's in the West-including Ireland? Do you REALLY want an Iran, run by a nut, to be armed with nukes, that could possibly hit YOU? Iran, right now, with their rhetoric, is an enemy of anyone who values freedom, so why are you on their side? Or is it you just hate the U.S. so much, you'd support a nation run by a fanatic?

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 13):
A US plan to bomb Iranian nuclear installations would indeed be very dangerous both to Iran and the rest of the world firstly from a nuclear fallout, direct civilian casualties and from Iran's retaliation

The U.S. wouldn't need to bomb it with nuclear weapons, my friend. Most likely, they would use a combination of B-117 Stealth fighters, and B-2 stealth bombers, with conventional munitions, not nuclear weapons.

Just admit it-your hatred of the U.S. superceeds your common sense of letting a nation that supports international terrorism, like Iran, even get near nuclear weapons.


User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6875 posts, RR: 34
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 19):
Or is it you just hate the U.S. so much, you'd support a nation run by a fanatic?

Well hey Falcon, who are you to criticize? To each his own, right? One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, right? Isn't that what he's been taught? We need to be more compassionate to the Iranians. We just don't understand. They have as much right to energy as the next nation, right?







[/tongue in cheek]



Great post man. Big grin


User currently offlineEmirates773ER From Pakistan, joined Jun 2005, 1450 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2326 times:

Its a bit off the topic but I would like to paste a very intresting analyses which was written by a blogger in dubai, it basically concerns the GCC countries and Iran but will effect everyone if a war takes place.


Thursday, February 16, 2006
Umm.. My Bagel is Glowing Green...

DUBAI --- Interior Minister Shaikh Saif bin Zayed Al Nahyan voiced fears yesterday of a leakage from neighbouring Iran's planned nuclear reactor.

"The danger poised by Bushehr nuclear reactor is that it is unpredictable, while protection is practically impossible," Shaikh Saif told AFP.

"All kinds of detection (of leakage) from a distance would not help to protect against any kind of leakage from this reactor, due to the high-speed movement of the radiation" he added.

The Bushehr Nuclear reactor is probably the greatest threat to the Gulf region since Saddam Hussein. Will the Americans Bomb it ? Will they not ? Seymour Hersh thinks the Americans are already in Iraq.

The Administration has been conducting secret reconnaissance missions inside Iran at least since last summer. Much of the focus is on the accumulation of intelligence and targeting information on Iranian nuclear, chemical, and missile sites, both declared and suspected. The goal is to identify and isolate three dozen, and perhaps more, such targets that could be destroyed by precision strikes and short-term commando raids. "The civilians in the Pentagon want to go into Iran and destroy as much of the military infrastructure as possible," the government consultant with close ties to the Pentagon told me.


The Iranian Nuclear Infrastructure is widely scattered, so if the Americans want to take it out, they wont just be bombing Bushehr. Theyre going to strike all over the area with deep aircraft and commando raids to take out the Iranian Nuclear assets.

The Iranians will then reply in force. First with their commando assets abroad. The Hezbollah in Lebanon will begin attacking Israeli targets with full force, deploying drones and performing raids into Israel. Iranian allied forces in Iraq will also begin attacking American Interests in the area, the Americans will find it harder to hold Iraq in the days that follow. The Iranians will also begin to Scud Baghdad and Tel Aviv.

Next they will close the strait of Hormuz. They will mine the Hormuz straits using their Kilo Class Submarines, and deploy their patrol boats and Silkworm anti ship missiles to turn back or sink any incoming outgoing naval traffic. Be prepared to see Shipping and oil exports roll down to zero, and Fujarah take an important position in the UAE as it is the one major port on the Indian ocean, the only GCC port besides the ones in Oman which is safe from the blockade.

Of course this will force the GCC to get involved, as their survival rests on the vital lifeline of the Hormuz Straits. This draws the GCC into the conflict. Where airborne strikes and naval operations will occur to try to open up the Hormuz Straits. The most vital part of this is to take Abu Musa and the Tunbs, since those are Islands are where the Iranians will be deploying hte silkworms, they need to be consolidated in order to open up. This will be an interesting test to see whether the UAE/GCC will be using Amphibious forces to capture the Island. The Iranians will not be able to move in ground forces to the Gulf states because the support elements would not be able to launch without being battered to scraps by the US fleet in the Arabian Gulf.

Which brings us to Iran's next wild card. It will begin to use its assets in the Gulf states to bring about a political solution, possible terrorist sleeper cells operating in the GCC states. It expands that with a full fledged Scud Campaign which will be targeted at population centers and military bases of all GCC countries. I dont need to tell you what might happen as a result.

Of course the Americans will not be doing nothing, the American Aircraft Carrier Battle Groups would be banging the Iranian naval, air and surface to ship assets like theyve been on a deserted Island for 5 years and Elizabeth Hurley shows up out of nowhere. Once the Iranian Anti Shipping Missiles, Scuds and Nuclear/Chemical Biological assets have been taken care of, the Iranians will then be practically neutered, the Americans will not have to invade, but rather wait until the situation collapses from inside. Without a clear war to fight, with no ground operations going on in Iran, the public will become disillusioned with the concept of a sacred defence as the Americans continue to pound Mullahtic command centers and defences into rubble. The Mullahs may be overthrown as a result of these losses.

Alternatively the Americans may launch a Ground invasion into Western Iran, Khuzestan, capturing most of the Iranian oil assets and cutting off the regime from fuel. No fuel, no electricity, no water, no public services, chaos, anarchy and an overthrown regime.

While this all happens, the price of oil will shoot up to unimaginable levels. It will not return to normal levels until 4 million barrels worth of production is brought back online in Iran.



The Truth is Out There ---- Face It!!!!!
User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 801 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2314 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 19):
Did it occur to you that "it's enemies" is anyone that's in the West-including Ireland? Do you REALLY want an Iran, run by a nut, to be armed with nukes, that could possibly hit YOU? Iran, right now, with their rhetoric, is an enemy of anyone who values freedom, so why are you on their side? Or is it you just hate the U.S. so much, you'd support a nation run by a fanatic?

Who said I was supporting Iran, its theocratic regime is an unpleasant one but it is unlikely to attack anyone unprovoked. However I also dont support the US, its present regime is also rather unpleasant. I think the greatest threat to any of us comes from what the US might initiate. I dont hate the US, I just dont like the people who run the place.


User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 801 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 19):
The U.S. wouldn't need to bomb it with nuclear weapons, my friend. Most likely, they would use a combination of B-117 Stealth fighters, and B-2 stealth bombers, with conventional munitions, not nuclear weapons.

  
I mean the nuclear fallout that comes with bombing nuclear power stations. Its not a clever thing to do. You seem to get high on talking about US military capability my friend.

[Edited 2006-02-20 23:00:32]

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2303 times:

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 16):
Think you must be under the influence of something mindbending if you think that attacking Iran is actually a good idea.

That is NOT what I said, eluded to or asked. What I asked was, again, for the record. . .

WHAT say you about Iran publically acknowledging schooling people on how to be "HOMICDE BOMBERS"??? t's a simple question, can you answer it???

A country's leadership publically acknowledging that they are preparing people to be homicide bombers??? You don't find this to be a problem???

Answer the question . . . . . . . .


25 YAK42 : May I again repeat that I dont support the Iranian regime. I dont know how being against the US governments crazy military ventures would make me a s
26 Bushpilot : Forgive me for not reading the entire article, but without doing so raises a much simpler question for me if the US was to launch airstrikes against I
27 Post contains images ANCFlyer : First, "the likes of me", You know nothing of me, so that statment is utter bullshit. I am pleased to see your response to my question. Adds credilbi
28 Post contains images Slider : Whatever... So you're saying we should just sit on our ass and allow Iran to continue to stir the pot, go nuclear and wait for THEM to initiate somet
29 Bushpilot : i couldnt have said that better myself. I still think we are in a tough pinch when it comes to potentially dealing with Iran, especially if it were d
30 Slider : Thanks and I agree. It's kind of like prolonging the inevitable. We waited too long in Iraq with the WMD, we don't go far enough in Gulf War I, we st
31 Post contains images Falcon84 : Sure-that's why they've said publically they'll wipe Israel off the map. Or do you just shrug off such sentiment, and ignore it? I think they ARE cap
32 Post contains links Cairo : I say its no different than the billions in dollars spent by America teaching people how to kill. Killing is killing. What is the difference between
33 Bushpilot : In the site you gave of Iraqi body count which says currently a min. of 28,473 and a max of 32,088. I see you got a a second number of 100,000 from a
34 Gary2880 : oh please falcon i didnt think that was your style such blatant propaganda crap. such scaremongering wont work on rational people. 'your country is i
35 Falcon84 : EXCUSE ME? You're equating training a military-which EVERY NATION has a right to do, with terrorists? You must be smoking the same thing as YAK. The
36 Gary2880 : thats a non arguement because the us doesn't have to falcon america pumps hundreds of billions into the military. but if you have nothing and still w
37 Cairo : Deliberately targeted or not is irrelevant. Whether or not civilians actually died is what counts. Compare the number of noncombatants killed by Isla
38 Falcon84 : Even if we didn't have this huge military, our culture would not tolerate such crap. And are you saying the terrorists, because their nations don't h
39 Gary2880 : think you should be careful as i said no such thing. im asking you to answer my question if you dont have 400 billion dollars laying around. if your
40 Falcon84 : Excuse me, but it absolutely is! You're eqating a soldier, dropping a load of bombs, and there may be a civilian down there, with a terrorist, specif
41 Post contains images Jacobin777 : fortunately, Bush-I was smarter than both you and Bush-II, after watching an interview with him, where he stated it would have been a "complete horne
42 Post contains images YAK42 : Errr thats right yes I am, very much so. Do you understand the language they speak in your own country? The amount of dead in Iraq as a result of the
43 Falcon84 : Is the world supposed to lay back, and let a renegade nation like Iran, run by a bunch of religious nuts, destroy another nation in the Middle East,
44 Cairo : President Carter, the most honest and true Christian president I know of, said today on CNN that Hamas should be supported by the US and acknowledged
45 Post contains images ANCFlyer : How many of those are a direct result of the assholes blowing up cars in downtown Baghdad??? How many new Iraqi police force volunteers have been blw
46 Cairo : People in the war party always want the opposition to shut up and accuse them of not being patriots. See Goering's famous quote. The figures are from
47 ANCFlyer : Bullshit. Again . . . source please . . . link. Ha Ha Ha Ha you're laughable at best. I guess the Palestinians are innocent victims of geography and
48 Jacobin777 : Cairo, its the typical "I'm American and what I say must be right because we are a democracy and we stand for a free society" b.s. hypocrisy that I h
49 Gary2880 : It fascinates me even more some americans think they have the right to go around the world into a sovereign nation, with an a leader elected by the p
50 YAK42 : The US has had many puppet states including Iran under the Shah, when the US overthrew a democratically elected presedent and installed a nasty dicta
51 Falcon84 : It fascinates me even more that a soverign nation like Iran has, in your eyes, the right to threaten another soverign nation, with an elected goverme
52 Gary2880 : its braw beating falcon. why not stop and think of the ''what if's'' of Iran? what if he is all mouth and no trousers like so many politicians? what
53 Post contains images Gary2880 : i was just wondering if you could show me where Mahmoud Ahmadinejad actually said in those words that he was going to 'nuke Israel'. would just like
54 Post contains links Slider : And no matter how many times you invoke that old Goebbels chestnut, bullshit spewed over and over won't become fact. Gary- If you really want to spli
55 Post contains images Gary2880 :    what a joke. so finding out that a guy never actually said, what keeps popping up as apparent fact in this thread, ''we want to nuke israel'' is
56 Falcon84 : Brow beating? I've seen no threats from the west to Iran. All I've seen is Iran trying to brow-beat Israel and anyone who supports them! It's amazing
57 Falcon84 : Gary-wake up. There is only ONE WAY for him to accomplish those things he's publically said, and that's by the use of nuclear weapons. He cannot inva
58 Slider : The fact that there are some people who defend a radical whackjob like Ahmadinejad are a joke. I bet you'd have turned over the Sudentenland back in
59 Falcon84 : Gary: do you even know what Slider is referring to here, my young friend? I bet you don't. I don't need some kid lecturing me on the dangers of Iran.
60 Post contains images Gary2880 : like i said, offering the other side of the coin. something that you lot seam far more ready to go berserk over than any of us. nearly pissed myself
61 Post contains images Gary2880 : dont worry i guessed some would be too ignorant to read my post and attempt to show the other side. some people are just war mongering fools who i sh
62 Post contains links Slider : Hey, more great news. Gary- go ahead and spin this one as Iran simply stating their right to "defend" themselves... Nevermind the fact that this disin
63 Falcon84 : Gary-you failed to answer my question: do you even know what Slider was talking about with that one quote? I'll put it here for you again, if you like
64 Post contains images Gary2880 : i have this weird feeling that when their bible was written america and nuclear weapons wasn't around. changing times. those who make up lies to fit
65 YAK42 : There is no doubt that this new presdent talks like hothead, but in the end if you knew about the complexities of Iranian government you would know t
66 Gary2880 : no i don't. i will look it up for you sometime and enlighten myself. and speaking of un-answerd questions. you have glossed over that twice in this t
67 Falcon84 : Good. Then you'll find out what happens to those who appease bullies. You might be surprised what you find, young man. And maybe you'll understand wh
68 Gary2880 : yes, ive done some reading up on bullies in the past. oh thank you, grandad. i hope to be able to get up to your caliber some day. i have understood
69 Falcon84 : Again, read up on the Sudetenland, and Neville Chamberlain-you and he would have gotten along quite well, it seems. By the way, do you even know who N
70 Post contains images Gary2880 : well I'm sorry i haven't done it between the time that i said i would and now. it will be done don't worry your pretty little head over it. always go
71 11Bravo : Perhaps that's because your statement is poorly worded and nonsensical. Try writing complete sentences with verbs and stuff. It’s a little hard to
72 Falcon84 : ROTFL. Show me this "lie" you refer to? I'm eager to see it.
73 Post contains images Gary2880 : or you could avoid pussyfooting around the question and actually answer it the reason no one is prepared to answer it is because we all know the answ
74 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ummm...sure..... .......maybe you just refuse to believe in the truth... care to explain why Jews in Iran are protected under Iranian laws?
75 Kaitak : I read just today that Iran and Hamas are getting very pally (like they weren't before!) That really has to make things more dangerous, not least beca
76 EDKA : wow what a debate - few sparkles as usual! back to the topic - i believe that Georgia will assist US, providing they can secure a massive support from
77 Falcon84 : Gary, since you're unwilling to read up on old Neville Chamberlain and his actions on the Sudetenland, let me give you a rundown on it. i don't have t
78 Daedaeg : Whatever contigency plans are being made to attack Iran, certainly our European allies are making similar plans. To be honest I believe if there is an
79 Eitlean : this is not about nuclear weapons really. just as iraq was not about wmd really. this is about one of the two greatest crises humanity will ever face,
80 Post contains images Falcon84 : Sweet Jesus, Mary and Joseph. Just what do YOU consider a threat? Iran has said they want to wipe Israel off the map. Now, if some bully comes up to
81 Post contains images Cfalk : Oh god, not again... Someone has not been paying attention to their economics classes, but just reading the Cliff notes (and not understanding them).
82 Post contains images Falcon84 : Only on painfully obvious things, Charles.
83 Post contains images Falcon84 : Only on painfully obvious things, Charles.
84 Kaitak : I hear today that talks between the Russians and Iran have broken down and Iran has insisted on doing its uranium refining in Iran. It seems to believ
85 Cfalk : That's a dead giveaway that what they want is weapons-grade material, not just fuel rods for reactors.
86 Post contains links Schoenorama : Discussion closed because you say so? Great! Why don't you just counter his arguments with your arguments instead of arrogantly dismissing the whole
87 Cairo : I'm not sure how this topic became a foreign trade discussion, but I'd like to point out that its really not 'better' or 'worse' for Iran, the EU or t
88 Post contains links Schoenorama : I don't agree. The only reason why the US is able to run huge current account deficits is because foreign nations are obligated to acquire their oil
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